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Has Borderlands 2 changed your opinion of any of the first four vault hunters?

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xSuper_Chuckx

Oct 3, 2012 3:20 pm GMT
Tobias_Is_Queen posted...
xSuper_Chuckx says... Simply put, I have never heard a white dude sound that black in my life.

LOL... really? NEVER? Sounds like you come from an area with a good amount of segregation. Not trying to insult you or anything, lotsa places around the world have segregation. I grew in an area with lots of black and white kids (and probably other colors too) all going to school together... so I've heard white guys talking like black guys my whole life. And plenty of black guys who sound pretty "white" (LOL, Dave Chapelle's "white guy" voice!), for that matter. <shrug>

Anyways - on topic, I liked what I've seen of the original 4 so far (still not very far) - but I do wish Roland was a little less Cyrus from The Warriors... or, if he's gonna be that way, at least have him say "CAN YOU DIG IT!?" more often.

That was very ignorant, assuming I live in a segregated area, considering I live in a very diverse area. Not going to even use the fact I am mixed.

And white individuals may speak similar to black individuals if that's what they grow up around. But there is still a noticeable difference in tone, pitch, etc.
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SilentHawk29

Oct 3, 2012 4:39 pm GMT
Really dislike the way they made Mordecai in this one. He doesn't seem as much as a bad ass in 2 compared to 1. :/
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zombienatio0

Oct 3, 2012 4:41 pm GMT
i thought Roland seemed a bit like a heartless ass in this game.
Sima_Yi

Oct 3, 2012 4:56 pm GMT
In BL1 I controlled 4 different mobile weapons platforms, not characters. So in that sense, yes, my opinion of them has changed. Not so much because their characterization is different in this game, but because they have any characterization at all.
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Schesparn

Oct 3, 2012 5:42 pm GMT
Digit4lc0py posted...
ITT racism. "I can't believe he 'sounds black'/seems hispanic!".

You people are ****ing disgusting.

Oh, I can believe it. I just didn't realize it in the first game. Haha.
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RUNwhenCOPScome

Oct 3, 2012 5:43 pm GMT
The_Pankaker posted...
I did'nt really play with Mordica all that much in the first but I feel that the drunk personalitly really fits him for some reason

I hate Mordecai's personality in this game. Reminds me of some frat guy with all of his bottles of alcohol displayed above his fireplace.
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MangoDave

Oct 3, 2012 5:44 pm GMT
Lilith and Roland are awesome, Mordecai being an alcoholic is a bit wierd, but ok, and I like Brick more now, although I agree that his voice doesn't really fit. The biggest character change I didn't like was Scooter; we went from a fairly cool, competent, and experienced sounding person into an internet-loser clone with a whiney voice.
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Ether_Sword

Oct 3, 2012 6:01 pm GMT
I like what they did with all the characters.
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Gryphon_Lord

Oct 3, 2012 7:51 pm GMT
I played Mordecai in 1 and I liked his characterization in 2. I got the opinion he was still a kinda snarky, badass kinda guy, but hard times made him fall back on alcohol. His relationship with Bloodwing was also heartbreaking, but at least Bloodwing left him an egg (I suspect this is the reason Bloodwing was retconned into a female)

I didn't have much interaction with Roland in 1, but I'm fond of him in 2. I always figured he'd be the leader of the VHs and his background as a Crimson Lance Engineer certainly paid off. I think he'd probably be more like his BL1 self if he wasn't under the pressure of leading the Raiders.

I love Lilith in this. She's snarky, sassy, and badass. Not sure what else to say.

Brick played out more or less like I always thought he was, a slight psychopath who knows a lot about fighting but not much about anything else. Also has a bit of a kind heart under all that other stuff, he treats you like a brother, never abandons his friends (even though he and Roland had a falling out) and adores his dogs (If you haven't noticed, he added a second dog paw necklace, one for Dusty)

Also about Wilhelm, not only did Jack want you to kill Wilhelm (He may have been able to kill you then, sure, but he'd only be rid of 4 revolutionaries. By letting you kill Wilhelm he was able to fool you into bringing the trick core to Sanctuary, which almost let him take down the entire Crimson Raiders. Also Jack seems to imply at some points that Angel was involved with the raid of New Haven, and she tricked the VHs to some extent. So Jack may have used Angel to manipulate the VHs into an impossible situation.
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Bhellium

Oct 3, 2012 8:03 pm GMT
Not one of them are like I imagined they would be. Well, Lilith kinda but I like her less than I did. She just seems to be trying too hard, maybe it's just that I don't like her VA.
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_Vuvuzela_

Oct 3, 2012 11:53 pm GMT
From: InSearchOf | #052
Borderlands 2 made me like every B1 character even more EXCEPT for Roland. I figured from his silly quotes from the first game (ITS LIKE CHRISTMAS!), he would have a crazier personality. Now in B2, he doesn't seem anything at all like what i heard from him in the first game. Especially in the audio logs of him and Lilith.

Totally agree about Roland. I was like "Huh?" when I first met him.

Lilith is pretty close to what I expected. Same with Mordecai, minus the drinking. Brick...no. I thought he would be this angry, punch-first-ask-questions-later guy but they made him silly.

Scooter's change was the worst for me. He got a new voice actor and the writing for him wasn't as funny as it was in B1.
kylekillgannon

Oct 3, 2012 11:55 pm GMT
_Vuvuzela_ posted...
Scooter's change was the worst for me. He got a new voice actor and the writing for him wasn't as funny as it was in B1.

To be fair, nothing will ever stack up to:

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Malzel

Oct 4, 2012 12:06 am GMT
They were all roughly as I expected them to be, except Roland, who, as was pointed out, went from "IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS" to "get et don soljer"
Bhellium

Oct 4, 2012 1:49 am GMT
Ha... just had a thought

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colemanmarkd

Oct 4, 2012 5:25 am GMT
Fungum posted...
Ravetown posted...
I pictured Brick much differently and I think his voice actor didn't do him justice. I really liked Brick in BL1, so I was disappointed. Everyone else was great.

He has the same VA...so it would be the writer/director's fault.

Brick is really awesome in BL2. The ones who turned out crap are Lilith and Mordecai. One's a drug addict with weak ass story-line powers. And the other is a drunk with a bird fetish.

I agree. Brick is still my favorite. I kinda thought Roland would be more like how Axton is in this one.
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madhatter420

Oct 4, 2012 5:31 am GMT
I think Mordecai's story has the potential for an amazing story. If it were a comic, I would read it.

With that said, I've never actually played as him.
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TheBraveOne

Oct 4, 2012 5:31 am GMT
I think the cast is awesome and I was honestly surprised with Brick entrance, in a good way. But I hate that they made Roland a stereotype in a different way that what you'd expect, and he's my favorite of the 4.
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thechaoticclown

Oct 4, 2012 5:44 am GMT
I honestly thought that roland was a lot less awesome and not a leader type at all from what i heard in borderlands 1. For example "It's like Christmas".
_Yag_

Oct 4, 2012 6:01 am GMT
I liked how they treated everyone to be honest.

I did think however that I was funny how they go around talking about the old vault hunters and yet when "stuff" happens to bloodwing Mord FREAKS OUT (awesome btw) and starts one shotting super badass loaders all day which I could never do even at max level (though im axton so one shotting isnt really my forte)
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MadDewg

Oct 4, 2012 7:10 am GMT
Digit4lc0py posted...
ITT racism. "I can't believe he 'sounds black'/seems hispanic!".

You people are ****ing disgusting.

Seriously. As a black guy playing video games ever since the mid 80s, I have never thought of a game character's race and it's stereotypes to be that big a deal...at least not enough to go on message boards and complain that you have white characters sounding black, someone's disappointment at the masked sniper being hispanic instead of asian, and apparently someone is angry deep down because the video game chick they idolized in part one got it on with a...*gasp*...black man (I guess this totally ruined some people's "immersion" or "envisioning their-selves as this character" shenanigans), and that totally makes her a worse character in the sequel for some reason, lmao.

Gotta love gamesfaqs though...should have seen the grand theft auto san andreas boards when rockstar first revealed the main character and setting or the left 4 dead 2 boards when it was revealed that the game will have not one black person...but two black people...oh snap!!! (and to make it worse in certain people's eyes, one of them is a black female...the most hated race/gender combination in anime/manga/video game communities and that at the same time replaced the "omg awesome for some reason or another white chick" (even though the part one survivors at that moment in time didn't yet have that much personality and background for people to get attached to them that badly yet), getting rochelle a crap ton of hate...before the community even got the chance to hear her game lines/the game releasing).

Anywho in my opinion everyone turned out great, except for roland (going by his quotes in part one, he seemed more like a "chillin"/laid back type of guy, in this game his personality is like, he got a stick up his ass or something I don't know). Overall, the old vault hunters is not bad considering that gearbox didn't really have that much to work with from the first borderlands.
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