As much as I love it, the C4 should not be in this game.
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Feb 1, 2013 3:05 pm GMT
I think, just because something is strong, doesn't make it OP, if there is a simple counter to it. The opposite is why I think Treyarch constantly nerfs things to s***, it is okay to have some things stronger than others, as long as they can still be countered simply. However, the "all things balanced" mentality is how they make their money because it is casual player-friendly.
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inb4 c4 gets nerfed to mw2 frag uselessness
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Feb 1, 2013 3:12 pm GMT
bbert901 posted...You say inb4hurrdurrflakjacket, but that's a great counter for it.
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Feb 1, 2013 3:12 pm GMT
C4 costs a point. FJ does as well and is a direct counter. It would be OP if there was no counter and it would be UP if the counter was available to everyone regardless.
It's strong but definitely not OP.
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Feb 1, 2013 3:16 pm GMT
yay4pachirisu posted...funny
i made similar topic a month ago and got ridiculed
I'm saying FJ is the best tier 1 perk and counters C4. I don't use C4 but still run flak
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Feb 1, 2013 3:19 pm GMT
Maybe not OP "overall", but it's OP compared to the other equipment in that category, certainly.
I think they should give it a slight nerf to how far you can throw it, just so the other equipment remains viable.
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Feb 1, 2013 3:24 pm GMT
C4 isnt as rampant as it was in mw3, and it was way better in that game cause lol blast shield and throwing distance isnt nerfed.
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Feb 1, 2013 3:24 pm GMT
When you want to use logic the tomahawk is the most OP lethal. You can 1 hit kill and recover it without scavenger. NERF!
Feb 1, 2013 3:32 pm GMT
Came to this conclusion yesterday when I was playing domination. Easy double and triple kills on flag capturers. (not sure if "capturer" is actually a word haha).
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Feb 1, 2013 3:47 pm GMT
TheMudkipMan posted...C4 costs a point. FJ does as well and is a direct counter. It would be OP if there was no counter and it would be UP if the counter was available to everyone regardless.
It's strong but definitely not OP.
Already discussed--just having a counter doesn't account for the fact that C4 is faster, stronger, and more versatile than any other lethal. Only betties compare and they aren't offensively useful and most people can crouch them.
The way to fix C4 has always been so obvious that I have no clue why they don't do it--make it so the user always has to put his weap away and hit a clacker, whether you hit RB or XX.
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Feb 1, 2013 3:49 pm GMT
HitokiriFelix posted...TheMudkipMan posted...
C4 costs a point. FJ does as well and is a direct counter. It would be OP if there was no counter and it would be UP if the counter was available to everyone regardless.
It's strong but definitely not OP.
Already discussed--just having a counter doesn't account for the fact that C4 is faster, stronger, and more versatile than any other lethal. Only betties compare and they aren't offensively useful and most people can crouch them.
The way to fix C4 has always been so obvious that I have no clue why they don't do it--make it so the user always has to put his weap away and hit a clacker, whether you hit RB or XX.
I get mire kills in the average round with claymores or frags than C4.
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Feb 1, 2013 4:52 pm GMT
What havent you complained about so far? A stud like you shouldnt be so upset.
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Feb 1, 2013 4:55 pm GMT
What's more annoying is how C4 stuns you for a second even if it doesn't kill you.
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Feb 1, 2013 4:55 pm GMT
All it takes is one death to a C4 around the corner for me to switch to Flak Jacket. I use it exclusively for my lethal and agree it's stupid OP. You have no chance at all to react to it, it's basically a cooked frag. It's only downside is its low range, and with these maps that rarely matters.
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Feb 1, 2013 5:01 pm GMT
Yes, it is strong. But since when is removing everything powerful, good? Honestly, people won't be satisfied until we're all using the same gun, perks, and equipment. The C4 being powerful is just a part of what it is. Remove that, and you remove the reason for its existence.
It's not game breaking, so no need to make the whole game grey with political-correctness. Some things in the game are just better than others. It keeps things from feeling like bad re-skins.
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Feb 1, 2013 5:33 pm GMT
Agreed to a point. Besides the obvious counter, C4 can't be lobbed too far. You can't throw, round a bend, and expect them to die on pulling the det.
But I can see where you're coming from TC. Insane on click advantage over timed frags and fixed-time tex's? Versatility as a point def. item and an assault frag? 's got all of that. About the only thing against it is its inablity to activate after death in that regard.
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Feb 1, 2013 5:49 pm GMT
I agree. only games I do we'll on are the ones where I spam C4 the whole match
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Feb 1, 2013 6:07 pm GMT
It's not like C4 in real life is more forgiving. In fact it's unquestionably the most devastating conventional explosive that you can carry even in one hand. I know I shouldn't be using real life logic to make an argument in a game situation here, but it's really funny how people actually expect C4 to be not that powerful.
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