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Gabriel is not Alucard father and Trevor did not become Alucard :FACT:

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3rd-Dagree

Dec 12, 2012 3:47 am GMT
GeminiEntity posted...
From: 3rd-Dagree | #017
Well Leon Belmont is the earliest named member of the Belmont clan. He was the first to use the Vampire Killer Whip and was responsible for swearing his family to fight evil for eternity.
Also from the video its a complete give away and you can tell its Hector because if you look at the sword he weild in the trailer that is same exact sword Hector uses.If you don't know who Hector is he's the protagonist of Castlevania Curse of Darkness who bears a striking resemblance to Alucard .A former Devil Forgemaster who was a superior swordsmen sent by Dracula to destroy Trevor Belmont. But he betrayed Dracula and left for a normal life , by allowing himself to fall by the hand of Trevor Belmont.

After renouncing his powers, Hector had been leading a normal life when his beloved was executed as a witch. He has vowed to exact vengeance upon Dracula, who cleverly manipulated the witch trial.

In the end Trevor Belmont had breached Dracula's defenses much sooner than Dracula had anticipated and had the help of powerful allies, including Dracula's son Alucard.after Draculas defeat Hectors last words was vowed to the Belmont Clan to destroy every Dracula Incarnations then he vanished into the moonlight.

Once again, it's a reboot and thus anything can happen. You do know what a reboot is, right? A reboot creates it's own continuity, anything that happened in past games does not matter.

Also, you obviously have not been keeping up with the game. Trevor and Alucard share traits, and I doubt it is for no reason at all.

So yea, your "fact" is nothing of the sort.

yes^^ I understand its a reboot and after playing DMC I just it was a reminder of how messed up reboot can really get -_- well I m still gonna enjoy this game when its out.
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GeminiEntity

Dec 12, 2012 12:50 pm GMT
From: 3rd-Dagree | #041
yes^^ I understand its a reboot and after playing DMC I just it was a reminder of how messed up reboot can really get -_- well I m still gonna enjoy this game when its out.

If you really did understand what "reboot" means when creating this topic, then I have to wonder why you even created it in the first place. Makes no sense...
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3rd-Dagree

Dec 14, 2012 5:26 pm GMT
GeminiEntity posted...
From: 3rd-Dagree | #041
yes^^ I understand its a reboot and after playing DMC I just it was a reminder of how messed up reboot can really get -_- well I m still gonna enjoy this game when its out.

If you really did understand what "reboot" means when creating this topic, then I have to wonder why you even created it in the first place. Makes no sense...
well because I made the topic weeks before more leaked info stateing it might be a reboot
nobody knows how the story gonna turn but ill keep my hopes up loo
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bcornelia

Dec 14, 2012 11:29 pm GMT
3rd-Dagree posted...
well because I made the topic weeks before more leaked info stateing it might be a reboot
nobody knows how the story gonna turn but ill keep my hopes up loo

What the hell are you even talking about? It's been known that the LoS games take place in a completely different timeline since before LoS1 was released... which was 2 years ago.
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GeminiEntity

Dec 17, 2012 10:54 am GMT
From: 3rd-Dagree | #043
well because I made the topic weeks before more leaked info stateing it might be a reboot

Like bcornelia said, the LoS trilogy was stated to be a reboot series before LoS1 came out. This is nothing new...

nobody knows how the story gonna turn but ill keep my hopes up loo

But we do know it's a reboot, thus the old timeline does not matter like your topic tried to imply. Your topic was incorrect from the start.
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kamb0_510

Dec 18, 2012 11:03 am GMT
Alucard is not trevor because they both are in the 3ds castlevania game. 2 different people and even though its a reboot how can trevor have white hair? in mirriors of fate trevor has brown hair and uses a whip and alucard uses a sword.

Or maybe trevor turns into alucard considering the reboot changed hella Sh!t. idk really all of these are opinions but i think they are still 2 different people which makes more sense to me.
GeminiEntity

Dec 18, 2012 1:07 pm GMT
Wow...
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kirusu

Dec 18, 2012 4:31 pm GMT
Albelnox0 posted...
Did anyone read the Journal in lords of shadow because it tell you right there in the journal itself that Gabriel is NOT a belmont, he was a an orphan bastard born from the Mathias convuiqt (I know i spelled the last name wrong) family, and was adopted BY the Belmont family.

Also Gabriel and Maria hand a son Trevor belmont as stated in the story section in the official Mirrors of Fate site, and Trevor proceeded to have his own son the one we know as Simon Belmont. That was BEFORE Gabriel was turned. There for i do not understand where people are getting the idea that the Belmonts in this reboot are vampires.

They are stated as Vampire Hunters, because Trevor is searching for vengeance in Mirror of Fate on his father for the death of his mother.

belmonts not being vampires i do believe. why? this guy's post. if gabriel was the bastard child of mathias(the original dracula in the series i believe), this would make gabriel alucard. as for trevor being a vampire or alucard? maybe in this reboot its possible, but alucard and trevor existed the same time. so yeah belmonts arent vampires, but its possible. i mean look at castlevania legends. if they are even close to being vampires in this game, then that would be the only excuse leading it to be true.
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3rd-Dagree

Dec 23, 2012 5:05 am GMT
bcornelia posted...
3rd-Dagree posted...
well because I made the topic weeks before more leaked info stateing it might be a reboot
nobody knows how the story gonna turn but ill keep my hopes up loo

What the hell are you even talking about? It's been known that the LoS games take place in a completely different timeline since before LoS1 was released... which was 2 years ago.

Yes your right it did take place in a different ttimeline also let me point out to you that do you understand that LOS1 was not a reboot? Point being los1 did not say anthing about Trevor or Alucard and the story evolved around Gabriel there was nothing leaking him to other known Belmonts untill now 2 years later with tjis reboot but sadly not connecting any embedded in stone storyline with other Castlevania like the rest of the bames did they all connected with each other like turning a book to the next page this game is "now i know" when i didnt know when i made this topic a REBOOT has nothing to do with my topic when i created it
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GeminiEntity

Dec 26, 2012 1:07 pm GMT
From: 3rd-Dagree | #049
Yes your right it did take place in a different ttimeline also let me point out to you that do you understand that LOS1 was not a reboot? Point being los1 did not say anthing about Trevor or Alucard and the story evolved around Gabriel there was nothing leaking him to other known Belmonts untill now 2 years later with tjis reboot but sadly not connecting any embedded in stone storyline with other Castlevania like the rest of the bames did they all connected with each other like turning a book to the next page this game is "now i know" when i didnt know when i made this topic a REBOOT has nothing to do with my topic when i created it

LoS1 is a reboot, and was known to be one before it came out. Just because you didn't know doesn't mean you're not wrong. Seriously, stop trying to make up excuses and move on already, lol.
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OrangeSchweese

Dec 26, 2012 4:51 pm GMT
I still don't believe it was intended as a reboot when MS began development on it. There are just so many little things that any CV fan would have seen as mandatory, yet they're absent here. The "it's a reboot" excuse is irrelevant, because having Mermen or Flying Medusa Heads would have no effect on the continuity. Yet somehow MS felt the need to add Chupacabra's and Ring Wraith clones. I mean, come on...
GeminiEntity

Dec 26, 2012 6:59 pm GMT
From: OrangeSchweese | #051
I still don't believe it was intended as a reboot when MS began development on it. There are just so many little things that any CV fan would have seen as mandatory, yet they're absent here.

No offense, but what you believe and what was stated are two very different things. If a point is trying to be made we take the closest thing we have to a fact, which is what MS and Konami states. Also, nothing is really mandatory in a reboot. It's the very meaning of the word, any and all changes are possible with past games being of no concern.

The "it's a reboot" excuse is irrelevant, because having Mermen or Flying Medusa Heads would have no effect on the continuity. Yet somehow MS felt the need to add Chupacabra's and Ring Wraith clones. I mean, come on...

Irrelevant to what exactly? The TC clearly tried to make a connection with the timelines, and the fact that the LoS trilogy is a reboot negates that connection and is obviously relevant in this topic. If you're just speaking in general, I don't think anyone knows why it was made into a reboot outside of MS and/or Konami not wanting to mess with the original timeline.
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OrangeSchweese

Dec 27, 2012 7:18 am GMT
GeminiEntity posted...
No offense, but what you believe and what was stated are two very different things. If a point is trying to be made we take the closest thing we have to a fact, which is what MS and Konami states. Also, nothing is really mandatory in a reboot. It's the very meaning of the word, any and all changes are possible with past games being of no concern.

I know that it's what they claim. I'm not denying the outrageous...ness of my opinion, but even if it was intended as a reboot from the beginning, it never came across as a "labor of love", which is what all reboots should strive for.
GeminiEntity

Dec 27, 2012 1:14 pm GMT
From: OrangeSchweese | #053
I know that it's what they claim. I'm not denying the outrageous...ness of my opinion, but even if it was intended as a reboot from the beginning, it never came across as a "labor of love", which is what all reboots should strive for.

Fair enough on that point, as it could have used more throwbacks to say the least. However, for me it still came across as a rebooted Castlevania. Though I also knew it was a reboot from the beginning, and thus there wasn't really no shock value of said changes when I saw them.
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Zetamancer

Jan 12, 2013 10:02 pm GMT
gavin1235 posted...
Billysan posted...
gavin1235 posted...
Billysan posted...
Yeah this is a reboot. Plus the Trailer kinda confirms Trevor becoming Alucard.

Yes it's a reboot. But trevor is not alucard.

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Lords_of_Shadow_-_Mirror_of_Fate

That doesn't prove anything now does it, Nope.

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did you read it, there is DIFFERENT artwork for trevor and alucard meaning they are not the same character

Link from OOT in his adult and child forms also happen to have different artwork.

What does it mean?
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The_Black_Cat

Jan 17, 2013 7:01 am GMT
Different artwork in this case is referring to the fact that the original claim to fame for Trevor=Alucard was that they both had the same coat (and a line of dialogue taken out of context). That is clearly not the case ergo Trevor is not Alucard.

But really, it's flimsy logic no matter what side of the argument you're on. Character designs can look identical and still be different people or they can look different and somehow be the same person. That's why context is so very important and why comparisons to games that you've already played make no sense.

Trevor could become Alucard or Alucard could be related to Trevor in some other way. I'd say Cox's twitter comments are better "proof" of Trevor=Alucard but even then there's room for a subversion.
Zetamancer

Jan 18, 2013 9:21 pm GMT
The context of the dialogue had always been irrelevant.

The logic behind the argument was that the actor voicing both Trevor and Alucard's lines is Richard Madden.

The conclusion should be obvious.
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The_Black_Cat

Jan 19, 2013 8:06 pm GMT
There's already an in-universe plot point to explain identical voices. So my point about context still stands. Not trying to dissuade anyone from the theory (or even denying it's possibility); just saying there's more room for error than some are willing to acknowledge.
Zetamancer

Jan 19, 2013 9:08 pm GMT
Just curious, what in universe plot point?
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The_Black_Cat

Jan 20, 2013 3:29 pm GMT
Lords of Shadow.