Sick of being accused of hacking, so, explaining how to ignore shields.
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Jan 5, 2013 11:19 am GMT
Ever since I started running into more and more shield knights, I've gotten accused of hacking each time I kill them through their block. As that's annoying and really silly, I figured I'd post how to completely ignore people's shields, and how to prevent them from doing the same to you.
How to surpass people's blocks:
The way swinging and hit detection works in Chivalry is deceptively simple. As long as the tip of their weapon is visible on your screen when you raise your shield [or parry, but that's not what this is about] you'll successfully block. If you block the middle of their blade, but their tip is no longer in your field of vision, you'll get hit. This is what you use to hit people through their shields, and how you stop them from hitting you.
If you want to hit someone through their shield, the most critical thing is being close. It doesn't matter if you have a halberd or a dagger, you need to be hugging onto them. The easiest way to do this if you're not an MaA with a lunge is to sprint as you attack, aiming to press yourself directly against their shield. Then you swing, aimed for the space just above their shoulder, while turning into the blow. As long as you're hugging onto them, this will strike them through their shield, every single time.
So, pretty powerful, yeah? How do you stop people from doing it to you? By doing the exact opposite. Whenever you're not attacking, you should be backpedaling, facing the center of your opponent's body. When they start to swing, you need to turn towards the tip of their weapon, keeping it visible on your screen as you block. This usually means turning about 45 degrees left [if a one-handed weapon] or 7-90 degrees left [if a two-handed sword, hammer, or polearm].
This is literally all there is to it. It's not a hack, it's not an exploit, it's an intended feature to keep shields from being unbeatable. If you've played for awhile, you probably already know this, but for any who aren't aware, there you go.
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Jan 5, 2013 11:59 am GMT
Yeah I'm surprised more people don't know this. It exactly follows the stated mechanics of the game but people still seem surprised.
My favorite move for a shielded knight is a kick, then a jumping overhead attack. Just for the theatricality.
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Jan 5, 2013 5:07 pm GMT
mrCube posted...Yeah I'm surprised more people don't know this. It exactly follows the stated mechanics of the game but people still seem surprised.
My favorite move for a shielded knight is a kick, then a jumping overhead attack. Just for the theatricality.
Isn't it in the tutorial?
Jan 5, 2013 8:36 pm GMT
The overhead attack is stated in the loading screen tips, but it's not taught to you in the tutorial. You are, however, taught how to go around a shield.
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Jan 27, 2013 2:27 am GMT
A fundamental part of the tutorial is keeping your eye on the tip of your enemy's weapon, and still most people don't do it and wonder why their blocks fail.
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Jan 28, 2013 9:31 am GMT
Lol yeah, I love when people are like WTF SHIELDS DON'T MAKE ME INVINCIBLE???
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Jan 28, 2013 11:39 am GMT
Jan 28, 2013 12:16 pm GMT
I didn't know this, tended to kick and overhead if they approach with a shield up or try to attack round their sides. Do shields actually slow move speed even unequiped? I cannot really tell.
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Jan 28, 2013 12:23 pm GMT
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Jan 29, 2013 3:58 pm GMT
Implying I play in 1st person
Jan 29, 2013 4:04 pm GMT
Screw shields. They're only good for people who don't know how to parry.
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Jan 30, 2013 8:51 am GMT
XianCe posted...Screw shields. They're only good for people who don't know how to parry.
Arrows, friend!
Feb 2, 2013 8:00 am GMT
XianCe posted...Screw shields. They're only good for people who don't know how to parry.
I see your logic, and raise you mine. You still have to know how to parry if you are using a shield because you can't just hold block to become untouchable. A shield is for people who wish to take advantage of noobs that don't know how to get through shields.
Feb 2, 2013 3:46 pm GMT
My friend and I like to run around, me with a tower shield and him with the spear. I can easily hold 3 or 4 enemies at bay with the shield, and he just stabs them when they get close enough to attack me. It's a lot of fun and really good for defending objectives. We've held off like 6 people on the bridge to trebuchet #4 while our teammates took the objective, it was great
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Feb 2, 2013 5:09 pm GMT
I actually find it
harder to block with a shield. You still have to "aim" your block, and having less vision means you often can't see where the blow is coming from.
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Feb 17, 2013 7:51 am GMT
Disastersaurus posted...Ever since I started running into more and more shield knights, I've gotten accused of hacking each time I kill them through their block. As that's annoying and really silly, I figured I'd post how to completely ignore people's shields, and how to prevent them from doing the same to you.
How to surpass people's blocks:
The way swinging and hit detection works in Chivalry is deceptively simple. As long as the tip of their weapon is visible on your screen when you raise your shield [or parry, but that's not what this is about] you'll successfully block. If you block the middle of their blade, but their tip is no longer in your field of vision, you'll get hit. This is what you use to hit people through their shields, and how you stop them from hitting you.
If you want to hit someone through their shield, the most critical thing is being close. It doesn't matter if you have a halberd or a dagger, you need to be hugging onto them. The easiest way to do this if you're not an MaA with a lunge is to sprint as you attack, aiming to press yourself directly against their shield. Then you swing, aimed for the space just above their shoulder, while turning into the blow. As long as you're hugging onto them, this will strike them through their shield, every single time.
So, pretty powerful, yeah? How do you stop people from doing it to you? By doing the exact opposite. Whenever you're not attacking, you should be backpedaling, facing the center of your opponent's body. When they start to swing, you need to turn towards the tip of their weapon, keeping it visible on your screen as you block. This usually means turning about 45 degrees left [if a one-handed weapon] or 7-90 degrees left [if a two-handed sword, hammer, or polearm].
This is literally all there is to it. It's not a hack, it's not an exploit, it's an intended feature to keep shields from being unbeatable. If you've played for awhile, you probably already know this, but for any who aren't aware, there you go.
But you are hacking. Hacking them to pieces with your sword. Persinally, i dont even try to block. I use my standard Dark Souls PvP strategy- kill you first, and it works very well. Just rampaging on an enemy is satisfying as heck.
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Feb 17, 2013 10:45 pm GMT
People who don't block are annoying, because that means they don't fall for feints
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Feb 18, 2013 9:14 am GMT
Depends on the other team classes but I also like having a shield but not equipped so i don't ranged in the back.
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Feb 18, 2013 10:40 am GMT
I prefer to not use a shield and instead opt to keep distance (and of course, parry when necessary). Often just keeping enough distance such that you are within range of your foe's weapon, but are far enough away to see them telegraph their attack and move appropriately is enough. I'm still not all that great though, and I often forget (in the midst of battle) that feinting is a feature and often fall prey to it
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