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With quad cores out of the way, you'd think that the next logical step would be eight. There's no doubt that the octo cores are on the way, but AMD decided to go back and fill in some product-line gaps with its new Phenom X3 8000 class of processors. Whereas the Phenom X4 9000 series of processors represents AMD's quad-core parts, the Phenom X3 8000 series consists of triple-core CPUs. Three seems like an odd number when most hardware--memory sizes, processor core counts, GPUs--come in even numbers.

The new triple-core processors actually have the same die as the quad-core 9000 series. The problem with complex multicore processors is that sometimes not all of the cores come out perfectly in the manufacturing process. Through a process called binning, AMD runs each CPU through a battery of tests to determine what kind of performance levels it meets. The tests weed out defective CPUs, assign speed grades to working processors, and determine how many cores will be enabled on a CPU. The GPU manufacturers have been binning their chips for years, and Sony uses a similar process on the eight-core Cell architecture found in the PlayStation 3. Remember how the Sony Cell processor uses only seven of its eight processing cores? That extra core provides a margin of error for manufacturing mistakes. Even though the chip has eight cores, Sony requires only seven of them to work. You can get a lot more chips to pass muster if you relax the requirements.

AMD has three triple-core processors in its line-up: the Phenom X3 8750, 8650, and 8450, which have clocks speeds of 2.4GHz, 2.3GHz, and 2.1 GHz, respectively. AMD states that the new Phenom X3s have launch prices of $195, $165, and $145. All of the CPUs share the same base design, and come with 64KB of L1 instruction and data cache, and 512KB of L2 data cache per core as well as a 2MB shared L3 data cache. The chips are pin compatible with existing socket AM2+ 940-pin motherboards, which makes upgrading to the Phenom X3 about as easy as changing a lightbulb. With a max TDP of 95W, the processors won't guzzle down electrons and will probably exist quite happily in small cases with modest cooling solutions.

Triple-core processing does face some growing pains in the Windows environment. Microsoft designed Windows Vista with the expectation that multicore processors would come in powers of two, and both Intel and AMD have followed that convention up until now. The Phenom X3's triple-core architecture shattered that even-core-count assumption, but Microsoft has already released a Windows Vista hotfix to fully employ the third core. As you may remember, the first Phenom CPUs also arrived with a TLB error that caused systems to hang in very rare instances (specifically, while running in virtualization mode with high CPU utilization across all four cores). Most users would never encounter the error, but AMD chose to move forward with a fix that had the unfortunate side effect of drastically reduced performance. AMD cleared up the TLB error in a matter of months, and all current Phenoms, including the Phenom X3, are working with new, updated designs.

AMD Phenom X3 8750 Performance

(Longer bars indicate better performance)

3DMark06, 1280x1024

AMD Phenom X3 8750
10589
AMD Phenom X4 9600
9274
AMD Phenom X4 9600 (TLB fix disabled)
10508
Intel Core 2 E8200
11147

3DMark06, CPU Test

AMD Phenom X3 8750
2729
AMD Phenom X4 9600
2924
AMD Phenom X4 9600 (TLB fix disabled)
3087
Intel Core 2 E8200
2496

Valve Particle Test

AMD Phenom X3 8750
50
AMD Phenom X4 9600
59
AMD Phenom X4 9600 (TLB fix disabled)
56
Intel Core 2 E8200
50

Unreal Tournament 3, 1024x768, Max Quality

AMD Phenom X3 8750
110
AMD Phenom X4 9600
77
AMD Phenom X4 9600 (TLB fix disabled)
102
Intel Core 2 E8200
112

Lost Planet DX9, Cave Test, 1024x768, Medium Settings

AMD Phenom X3 8750
59
AMD Phenom X4 9600
45
AMD Phenom X4 9600 (TLB fix disabled)
69
Intel Core 2 E8200
54

Crysis, 1024x768, Medium Settings

AMD Phenom X3 8750
39
AMD Phenom X4 9600
25
AMD Phenom X4 9600 (TLB fix disabled)
36
Intel Core 2 E8200
56

System Setup: AMD Phenom X3 8750, AMD Phenom X4 9600, Intel Core 2 E8200, Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H, Asus P5K, 2GB Corsair XMS Memory (1GB x 2), 750GB Seagate 7200.11 SATA Hard Disk Drive, Windows Vista 32-bit. Graphics Card: GeForce 8800 GTX. Graphics Driver: beta Forceware 174.74.

We pit the new Phenom X3 8750 against similarly priced processors from both Intel and AMD. The Phenom X3 8750 processor faces competition from the $185 2.66GHz dual-core Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 and the slightly more expensive 2.3GHz quad-core AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition. Our Phenom X3 8750 kept pace with the Core 2 Duo E8200 in all of the tests but Crysis. The Phenom X3 8750 actually outperformed the Core 2 Duo E8200 in Lost Planet, given that the game takes advantage of all three cores. The Phenom X3 8750 fared well against the Phenom 9600 Black Edition both with and without the TLB patch.

The Phenom X3 8750 is a good performer, but it's stuck in a hard spot in terms of pricing. At $195, the Phenom X3 8750 sits a scant $40 away from AMD's flagship desktop processor, the $235 2.5GHz quad-core Phenom X4 9850, and $20 away from the $215 Phenom X4 9750. It's hard to argue for the Phenom X3 8750 at its current price point when you can get higher clock speeds and an additional processing core for just a little more money. When all of AMD's Phenom processors sit within $100 of each other, the argument for the middle children gets to be quite difficult.



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jeremey9905

look how well it plays crysis.1024x768 medium settings. i wonder how it would play alone in the dark.

Posted Jun 26, 2008 8:51 pm GMT
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TiberiumMember

to slayerpker :
since that games don't support quad cores of course you will pawn them let's see if you still own them after Quad core Certified games will come out...

Posted Jun 26, 2008 5:34 am GMT
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datniccah187

tempting

Posted Jun 20, 2008 3:25 pm GMT
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MichaelGeorge70

i own a q6600 2gb 800mhz ram (reducced timing) 2*8800gt(went for lower temp and better architex than gtx) sli and it owns but did anyone else notice that the x3 8750 scored practically the same as the e8200 why create a ....new? obsolete product??? and yes i am an intel fanboy since my athlon 1.8ghz died

Posted Jun 19, 2008 8:24 am GMT
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slayerpker

my new computer is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ and is running XP 64 bit, 2 gb DDR2 800 and I have a 8800 gt and It owns my friends q6700 with 3gb DDR2 800 and a Geforce 8800 GTS on Crysis on High graphics any day!!!!

Posted Jun 11, 2008 11:34 pm GMT
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nazraq

i have the q6700 and i love it. my brother wanted a quad-core but was afraid to copy me. he went with the amd 9850. i have the 8800 gtx, while he has the 8800 gt. my 3dmark score is double his!

get any core2 chip you can afford. they are better for games and media hands down. i'm not a fanboy either. my xp computer is amd 2800+ and an ati x1950 pro. i buy what is winning at the time. intell is winning right now. amd dropped the ball

Posted May 29, 2008 12:40 pm GMT
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raze-boi

I'm still happy with my Q6600 and waiting for the games with Quad-Core support...

Posted May 21, 2008 5:08 am GMT
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Great_Ragnarok

hmmmmm I think ill wait a little longer!

Posted May 17, 2008 11:13 am GMT
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iShadow360

would i be able to install these chips in a laptop (i.e. an hp pavillion dv 2000)

Posted Apr 25, 2008 7:02 pm GMT
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max8891

AMD just doesn’t have the clock speeds to compete against Intel new quads. Would be nice to see them improve this in the near future to make the cpu market a bit more competitive.

Posted Apr 24, 2008 8:52 am GMT
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luke-9493

is i think i will just wait a while before i get a new PC until the "next generation" of intel parts will be released.

Posted Apr 23, 2008 7:38 pm GMT
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