Found out a bit late, awesome news all the same, been waiting eagerly for this news to come, today's a happy day thanks to DF chapters.
@velcroboy as for if it's worth playing, it was an awesome game, that's for sure, I love to play them even nowadays, but for newcomers, aged games are often hard to digest, so I'd recommend giving it a try, if you don't find it too outdated you'll certainly enjoy it.
Fans of The Longest Journey and Dreamfall will once again return to Arcadia, should Red Thread Games' Kickstarter campaign prove successful.
Curiously, developer/publisher Funcom is not backing this particular project. Tørnquist's Red Thread Studios is comprised of the same individuals who brought the previous games to life, but the Norwegian company that published The Longest Journey and Dreamfall, not to mention online role-playing games like Anarchy Online, Age of Conan, and The Secret World isn't part of this equation. The big question: why not?
Tørnquist answers: "Funcom's focus since before the launch of Dreamfall in 2006 has been on the online space, and I don't think they were ever able to reconcile that with continuing The Longest Journey saga, or to find a way to bring TLJ or Dreamfall into the online realm. Sure, there were Discussions. Ideas. Pitches. But it never really worked out, and The Secret World grabbed all the time and all the people for many, many years. There really was no room to do both, to be honest, particularly since they couldn't really do another Dreamfall without me and the core team."
"Part of me also didn't want to jump straight into Chapters after finishing Dreamfall," he continues. "I needed to do something else, and The Secret World was another labour of love for me, a game, story and universe I was deeply passionate about. We actually started working on that one before Dreamfall, so I was eager to get back to, and finish, TSW. I just didn't count on it taking six years…"
I asked Tørnquist if he was burnt out on massively multiplayer games--and his answer isn't that surprising, considering he's devoted so many years to them. "I love The Secret World dearly," he responds. "I am extremely happy with my time on that project, and with what we managed to accomplish. I'm extremely happy to see the game doing well, and being taken care of by a passionate and dedicated team. But it was time to move on, both from TSW and from MMOs. I spent six years of my life working day and night on that game, and yeah, I did miss single-player games, I missed adventure games, and I missed the characters and worlds of The Longest Journey and Dreamfall."
'We know where this story is going, we know where it's destined to end.'
Tørnquist plans to pursue other projects with Red Thread Games, but for now, the focus is Dreamfall Chapters. With Funcom out of the picture, the team can exert full creative control over the game--and that's where Kickstarter comes in. The team was awarded a $175,000 grant from the Norwegian Film Institute, which is enough to create a working prototype, and design multiple characters and environments. It's not enough, however, to make an entire game. Tørnquist seeks $850,000 more in crowdfunding, which is no small sum. He says he's equally excited and terrified by the process. Or, in his own word, "terrifited." But what happens to Dreamfall Chapters if the Kickstarter is unsuccessful?
"[…] we're putting everything we have into this Kickstarter and the project, and while it's not do-or-die for Red Thread Games, I think we're going to have a difficult time making Dreamfall Chapters happen without the Kickstarter cash. If the Kickstarter fails, we'll roll with the punches and get back on our feet, for sure. Red Thread Games will survive. We're passionate about this, and we aren't going to give up easily. We will finish the Dreamfall Chapters prototype and then jump onto other projects in order to keep our heads above water. Hopefully, we can get back to Chapters some day soon, but it will definitely take a lot longer and be a lot more uncertain without the Kickstarter funds."
Presuming Red Thread Games gets the funding they need, however, then you should expect to see Dreamfall Chapters arrive in November of 2014. It's hard not to wonder, though: is the strength of player nostalgia, and that of the Longest Journey/Dreamfall brand, enough to drive the Kickstarter's success? Says Tørnquist, "I think the strength of The Longest Journey and Dreamfall name will get us started, and I think the desire to see the story continue will definitely give us some traction, but it won't be enough. We're prepared to do a lot of work to get noticed, to spread the word, to show even non-fans that we're working on something really exciting, really beautiful, really important. After all, with Dreamfall Chapters, we're not just continuing The Longest Journey saga and wrapping up the Dreamer Cycle, we're making what we hope will be a great adventure game--one that all PC gamers should check out and play."
And what will playing that game be like? While The Longest Journey was a pure point-and-click adventure, Dreamfall took a different tack, adding gameplay elements like combat and stealth, and not always to the game's benefit. It's also hard to ignore inroads made by other adventure games, such as Telltale's The Walking Dead series, where choice is a major element. Tørnquist says that player choice is important to Dreamfall Chapters, though, he says, "I would use the word 'freedom' instead of 'choice'. Not that we won't have the latter, but the story is set and you're moving through it, discovering it at your own pace, seeing it from different vantage points and perspectives. You have the freedom to experience the story the way you want to experience it. To me, adventure games are about characters, worlds and plots--in that order. We want players to be able to explore the characters and the worlds freely and without artificial barriers and time limits."
He continues: "Movement in the game world will be similar to Dreamfall, albeit with a different control scheme and GUI, but interactivity will be handled a bit differently. We're doing a lot of work to bring point-and-click into a 3D setting, and I think we've succeeded with that. We'll show off our work-in-progress prototype during the Kickstarter campaign, and hopefully explain a bit more about how it works. But I think adventure gamers will be very pleased."
'Dreamfall Chapters is a game about changes. About life. About the chapters of existence.'
Tørnquist is clearly thrilled to return to the universe first described in The Longest Journey, and that excitement is likely to be shared by the series' passionate followers. "Recreating our characters, beginning with Zoë, and making her look so much more human, so much more expressive and animated, really excites me. (And no, not in THAT way.) The way we tell our stories changes completely when we can let the eyes and facial expressions tell part of the story. I can't wait to write for the new Zoë; it really is a revolution in storytelling for us."
"And in addition to the technical side of things, being able to finally continue and conclude the story we began in Dreamfall--that is, of course, incredibly exciting, incredibly inspiring," says Tørnquist. "That makes me jump out of bed every morning. We know where this story is going, we know where it's destined to end, and now it's just a question of giving life to our characters and worlds, to write the words and to fill in the blanks. That's a great feeling. We can sit down and flesh all of this out and do our best work ever. We've learned so much since TLJ and Dreamfall, and all of that is going into Chapters."
Found out a bit late, awesome news all the same, been waiting eagerly for this news to come, today's a happy day thanks to DF chapters.
I haven't played any of these games. So, I understand it that this is the 3rd game in the series. Right? This game looks very beautiful and I will keep an eye out for it. Is it worth it to go back and play the first 2 games though? Or maybe just the Dreamfall game?
I guess a lot can be said of where this game maybe headed but here's hoping it gets off the ground so that we may judge for ourselves what the merits of this game hold.
EA is the publisher, and Funcom is taking a sizable chunk of all red threads "Revenue" which includes their kickstarter funding...
So we finally got to big named publishers like EA getting their devs to go to kickstarter to get the public to fund their games...
As much as I love dreamfall I cannot believe this is happening.
@eric_neo3 I don't wanna read all that, someone tell me it ain't so.
@eric_neo3 @bluefox755 If you read more carefully it says that Tørnquist will continue working as an adviser for another game named the secret world that *is* published by EA while leading Read Thread Studio's work on Dreamfall chapters: The longest journey, a game *not* published by EA or Funcom or anyone else.
They are however sharing revenues with Funcom as a part of their licence deal.
PS. What do you mean with "all that", it's only one page of text Oo
PPS. I do hope that little piece of TL:DR text makes the two of you feel a tiny bit better even though you *could* have read it on your own :-)
@eric_neo3 Read again.
"Tørnquist says that player choice is important to Dreamfall Chapters, though, he says, "I would use the word 'freedom' instead of 'choice'. "
In other words, they're not taking anything from recent gaming developments, they're just trying to pass off older gameplay with new gameplay language. So, no real choice, just a linear story. That's fine, and I loved the original games, but be up-front with us about it. If you're not giving us player choice, just tell us. Don't beat around the bush.
His response about choice and freedom was pretty vague and did imply the game will have a linear story, which is not a problem and still the predominant form of game-design. I'm curious what you meant by 'recent gaming developments'
Choice and Consequence hasn't evolved much from what I can tell. Some games have linear stories that branch in response to player choices like the Witcher series and Mass Effect.
Others give you the ability to choose when to tackle otherwise linear quest-lines or missions like Skyrim or GTA.
There are truly non-linear games that have dynamic campaigns like some flight sims, or very broad goals like the campaign objectives of 4X titles. None of these approaches is a recent development in gaming history, examples of each can be found all the way back to the early days of the form. But maybe you could clarify what you were thinking of?
I would gladly throw some money at this game, so long as they promise to deliver a complete story this time. The 'ending' to Dreamfall was far and away the worst ending to a video game I've ever seen. It was worse than the end of The Sopranos.
Funny enough !
I didn't like they named it "Chapters".. what is this going to be like "The Walking Dead" where people had to be buy another episode every few months ?..?
If this is true I really hope the whole campaign fails.
@Reaiko Did you read the article?
It's called "Chapters" because it's about the "chapters of existence." The article and Kickstarter also plainly state that this game would bring Zoe's story to a conclusion. It is not being split into episodes.
Finally!! It has been a long time coming, the first two games were great.. really looking forward to where they take Dreamfall Chapters!!!... :D
I remember this game being beautiful and the music was outstanding. Definitely looking forward to Chapters.
@Estel78 @Arkhalipso You're kidding, it's not just *better* it's way, way, way better.
TLJ made it to the top 10 list of adventure games of the last decade on adventuregamers.com at least once that I know off back in the days.
And on some lists it came as high as number 3.
I know some people rank it as top 1 or 2 of the games out there still in the genre although that's something that a lot of people would argue isn't a good place for it, it sure as heck come on top 20 on all lists I've ever heard about for the genre.
Of course, I might be somewhat bias, considering that I mostly just look at those lists if TLJ is in it. :-P
YES! Y E S ! ! ! Finally! It's been so long, too long! I kinda pissed myself reading this and now I'm crying ;( FINALLY!
TLJ was hands-down one of the best story-driven games I have ever played, and Dreamfall (while I preferred TLJ) was great as well. Backing this is a no-brainer for me.
@Rinnerz Agreed, but bad timing for me financially. At some other time I might have helped out with 4 k USD, today I could only afford 10 USD...
Going to save up a bit and see if I can manage a little more before the time is up.
Dreamfall TLJ was THE best adventure game I've EVER played, in the 20 or so YEARS of playing video games. Nuff said... Backing it till it hurts, and suggest you do the same. If you're having second thoughts, you've never played Dreamfall. And that really is: your loss.
@Rayn303 Well said. TLJ was brilliant, as was Dreamfall. Everyone please back this!!!!!!
Dreamfall was such a great game. I'm not ashamed to admit that I was saddened by the ending. I'm very interested to see where this new game picks up from.
saw the second chapter release as i was getting into PC. most of my tastse have evloved from run and gun games to a more serious or story driven gameplay like mass effect, KOTOR and the whitcher. reading the fan based reviews and the excitement from die hard fans make me want to jump into the series aswell...once i finish fresh supply of SP games that is =P
@scarred_fox The SP games can wait, jump into TLJ and Dreamfall right away ;-)
You won't regret it (to much)
Of course the cliff hanger at the end of Dreamfall will perhaps hurt a little, and make you understand why backing this kickstart is so incredibly important.
I've completely forgotten about this amazing game! Had no idea they were continuing the story and the Kickstarter. Thanks Gamespot for mentioning this. I am more than happy contribute and hopefully they exceed their goal. Another story type game I wish would also continue is Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. It was state of the art back in 2004 and you really were immersed as a vampire. Hope they bring it back too!
YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA YESSS I was waiting for this stuff for soooooo long!!! I'm really exited!!! I hope the sequel to be as great as the past two parts!
The ending of Dreamfall was one of the most interesting and unexpected endings of a game I've ever seen. I really really hope for them not to let us down with the new sequel!
@hostX9 Oh, it was interesting alright! But damned ><
I'd be ok with it if I'd only have to wait a few months, six years however was a tiny bit on the long side after such a cliff hanger...
I'm glad this has been featured on GS and other gaming sites. Dreamfall is one of the best adventure games I have ever played (never played TLJ). A new game in the series without the interference of a publisher is exciting, to say the least. Can't wait to see their stretch goals (assuming the funds keep pouring in).
@plasticreality Dreamfall was a good game, no question about that, but compared to the original, TLJ, it was a tiny bit disappointing to be honest, at least to me.
Because while TLJ was fantastic, Dreamfall was *just* great.
@plasticreality You really should play TLJ. Unlike Dreamfall it actually had a complete story with a conclusion, as opposed to just ending abruptly without resolving anything.
@plasticreality TLJ was for my taste even better then Dreamfall yet I'm not saying that Dreamfall was bad or average at all! You really should check out TLJ if you love great stories.
Btw, great soundtrack in the kickstarter video... Is this part of the Dreamfall (2nd game) soundtrack?
i for one can't wait. loved tlj and dreamfall. been waiting for chapters since dreamfall came out. i'll back any game tlj related.