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Who enjoys previous consoles' graphics than the current?

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  • skp_16
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 10:00 am GMT

    I like previous consoles' graphics than the current. Maybe because the current consoles graphics are too smooth and realistic, w/c is not good IMO. And to be honest, the console with the best graphics for me is PS2, then PSP.

    I think realistic and smooth graphics only suits in sports games.

    PS2 graphics > PSP > PS1 > PS3.

    Games should look like games, not real.

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    I like previous consoles' graphics than the current. Maybe because the current consoles graphics are too smooth and realistic, w/c is not good IMO. And to be honest, the console with the best graphics for me is PS2, then PSP. :)

    I think realistic and smooth graphics only suits in sports games.

    PS2 graphics > PSP > PS1 > PS3.

    Games should look like games, not real.

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  • Josh1488
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 10:15 am GMT
    I don't agree entirely. Sure games should look like games. Some games should look realistic (war, sports etc) and others and these are my favorite should have an artistic thing going on (like okami and many older 2d games) I love 2D games and would agree they have a certain special appeal to them and they really hit their stride with psone, saturn, ps2 dreamcast etc imo. It definetly shouldn't be all about the graphics but instead about art and design imo.
    I don't agree entirely. Sure games should look like games. Some games should look realistic (war, sports etc) and others and these are my favorite should have an artistic thing going on (like okami and many older 2d games) I love 2D games and would agree they have a certain special appeal to them and they really hit their stride with psone, saturn, ps2 dreamcast etc imo. It definetly shouldn't be all about the graphics but instead about art and design imo.
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  • bawathegamer
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 10:28 am GMT
    skp_16 wrote:

    I like previous consoles' graphics than the current. Maybe because the current consoles graphics are too smooth and realistic, w/c is not good IMO. And to be honest, the console with the best graphics for me is PS2, then PSP.

    I think realistic and smooth graphics only suits in sports games.

    PS2 graphics > PSP > PS1 > PS3.

    Games should look like games, not real.

    are you being serious? if you mean artstyle id still buy what your saying.your trying to say the ps2 had the best graphics last gen. "looks at tc's profile.playstation afficianado.hmmm"

    i get that alot of this gens game that typical smooth look on all characters and stuff. but to say that you liked the ps2 graghics the most last gen?? did you play nothing on the gc,xbox or pc?

    [QUOTE="skp_16"]

    I like previous consoles' graphics than the current. Maybe because the current consoles graphics are too smooth and realistic, w/c is not good IMO. And to be honest, the console with the best graphics for me is PS2, then PSP. :)

    I think realistic and smooth graphics only suits in sports games.

    PS2 graphics > PSP > PS1 > PS3.

    Games should look like games, not real.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you being serious? if you mean artstyle id still buy what your saying.your trying to say the ps2 had the best graphics last gen. "looks at tc's profile.playstation afficianado.hmmm"

    i get that alot of this gens game that typical smooth look on all characters and stuff. but to say that you liked the ps2 graghics the most last gen?? did you play nothing on the gc,xbox or pc?

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  • 3KindgomsRandy
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 10:41 am GMT

    I like to go back and enjoy the simple colorful nature of some of the Genesis and SNES era games to remind myself that monster graphics are not necessary for a great game.

    That being said, I can't really say I prefer them, but I can still appreciate and enjoy them. Except for PS1/N64 era. Most of that stuff aged SO poorly that I find a lot of it unplayable anymore. Just my opinion though.



    I like to go back and enjoy the simple colorful nature of some of the Genesis and SNES era games to remind myself that monster graphics are not necessary for a great game.

    That being said, I can't really say I prefer them, but I can still appreciate and enjoy them. Except for PS1/N64 era. Most of that stuff aged SO poorly that I find a lot of it unplayable anymore. Just my opinion though.

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  • CheeChee_Macko
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 10:51 am GMT
    You're just a silly, silly person.
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  • whoozwah
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 10:51 am GMT
    3KindgomsRandy wrote:

    I like to go back and enjoy the simple colorful nature of some of the Genesis and SNES era games to remind myself that monster graphics are not necessary for a great game.

    That being said, I can't really say I prefer them, but I can still appreciate and enjoy them. Except for PS1/N64 era. Most of that stuff aged SO poorly that I find a lot of it unplayable anymore. Just my opinion though.

    Pretty much agreed on all counts, esp. with the part about the first 3D games aging poorly due to low res textures, low poly models and a general contrast in the advances of technology for games. 2D games just seem to age better because they're not made much if at all anymore so there's not a basis for comparison.

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    [QUOTE="3KindgomsRandy"]

    I like to go back and enjoy the simple colorful nature of some of the Genesis and SNES era games to remind myself that monster graphics are not necessary for a great game.

    That being said, I can't really say I prefer them, but I can still appreciate and enjoy them. Except for PS1/N64 era. Most of that stuff aged SO poorly that I find a lot of it unplayable anymore. Just my opinion though.

    [/QUOTE]

    Pretty much agreed on all counts, esp. with the part about the first 3D games aging poorly due to low res textures, low poly models and a general contrast in the advances of technology for games. 2D games just seem to age better because they're not made much if at all anymore so there's not a basis for comparison.

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  • PAJ89
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 10:57 am GMT
    Have to disagree on the whole. If you can make a game look good without sacrificing quality, then why not? The only exception is with some 2D RPGs; I love the styles of games like Wild Arms, Chrono Trigger, and some of the early Final Fantasy games. If we're talking art style then it's another story. Okami, Shadow of the Colossus, and ICO are all last-gen games with fantastic art direction.

    Have to disagree on the whole. If you can make a game look good without sacrificing quality, then why not? The only exception is with some 2D RPGs; I love the styles of games like Wild Arms, Chrono Trigger, and some of the early Final Fantasy games. If we're talking art style then it's another story. Okami, Shadow of the Colossus, and ICO are all last-gen games with fantastic art direction.
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  • Chilled_AB
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 11:12 am GMT
    Well as long as the gameplay is awesome I don't care what the graphics are like be it realistic or stylish or what-ever.

    Well as long as the gameplay is awesome I don't care what the graphics are like be it realistic or stylish or what-ever.
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  • loopy_101
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 11:13 am GMT
    whoozwah wrote:
    3KindgomsRandy wrote:

    I like to go back and enjoy the simple colorful nature of some of the Genesis and SNES era games to remind myself that monster graphics are not necessary for a great game.

    That being said, I can't really say I prefer them, but I can still appreciate and enjoy them. Except for PS1/N64 era. Most of that stuff aged SO poorly that I find a lot of it unplayable anymore. Just my opinion though.

    Pretty much agreed on all counts, esp. with the part about the first 3D games aging poorly due to low res textures, low poly models and a general contrast in the advances of technology for games. 2D games just seem to age better because they're not made much if at all anymore so there's not a basis for comparison.

    Same here, I don't know why though. I guess its the HD thing, its really annoying if you run a 360 on an SD tv...

    [QUOTE="whoozwah"][QUOTE="3KindgomsRandy"]

    I like to go back and enjoy the simple colorful nature of some of the Genesis and SNES era games to remind myself that monster graphics are not necessary for a great game.

    That being said, I can't really say I prefer them, but I can still appreciate and enjoy them. Except for PS1/N64 era. Most of that stuff aged SO poorly that I find a lot of it unplayable anymore. Just my opinion though.

    [/QUOTE]

    Pretty much agreed on all counts, esp. with the part about the first 3D games aging poorly due to low res textures, low poly models and a general contrast in the advances of technology for games. 2D games just seem to age better because they're not made much if at all anymore so there's not a basis for comparison.

    [/QUOTE]

    Same here, I don't know why though. I guess its the HD thing, its really annoying if you run a 360 on an SD tv...

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  • Uzunoff
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 3:12 pm GMT
    I agree with you, but in a different sense. Back when graphics weren't at the level that they are now, developers cared more about game play. I do think that PS2 graphics were about the level that I feel good about. But for me the games, starting with the PS1, became too real and too involved. By that I mean that games like they had for SNES that you could play for 15-20 minutes and feel satisfied were a thing of the past. Now if I play most games, cut scenes are longer than that. I work 2 jobs and have a family of 4 and don't have time for all of that. On top of that graphics are all that you hear about with the new games. All I've heard about Crysis is that it has great graphics and takes a heck of a computer to run it. How does it play? I enjoy playing old NES&SNES games as well as PS1&PS2 games for all of those reasons. I also think this is why Nintendo made a comeback with the Wii and the DS, because they offer more of the older styole of gaming. As a recreation, more than a way of life. However I can empathize with people who want realistic graphics in games because they use them more as an escape than a hobby. For me though I do enjoy older games and consoles more so than the newer ones.
    I agree with you, but in a different sense. Back when graphics weren't at the level that they are now, developers cared more about game play. I do think that PS2 graphics were about the level that I feel good about. But for me the games, starting with the PS1, became too real and too involved. By that I mean that games like they had for SNES that you could play for 15-20 minutes and feel satisfied were a thing of the past. Now if I play most games, cut scenes are longer than that. I work 2 jobs and have a family of 4 and don't have time for all of that. On top of that graphics are all that you hear about with the new games. All I've heard about Crysis is that it has great graphics and takes a heck of a computer to run it. How does it play? I enjoy playing old NES&SNES games as well as PS1&PS2 games for all of those reasons. I also think this is why Nintendo made a comeback with the Wii and the DS, because they offer more of the older styole of gaming. As a recreation, more than a way of life. However I can empathize with people who want realistic graphics in games because they use them more as an escape than a hobby. For me though I do enjoy older games and consoles more so than the newer ones.
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  • project-exile
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 3:55 pm GMT
    For me graphics don't mean much to me. I still love playing snes games because to me that was the greatest console. Some of the games that came out during that era are better in game play that a lot of the games coming out now. I really love the sprite rpgs and the 2d style and I just cannot get over that. I am horrible and first person shooter games. For me 3d is good and all but if the game sucks I don't care if you have the most realistic 3d enviroments and visual effects nothing will hide that fact. Of course I do like it when new jrpgs come out like lost odyssey just the snes era was where I was the most happiest with the game play. I think some companies have gotten side tracked with the 3d and forgotten about game play.
    For me graphics don't mean much to me. I still love playing snes games because to me that was the greatest console. Some of the games that came out during that era are better in game play that a lot of the games coming out now. I really love the sprite rpgs and the 2d style and I just cannot get over that. I am horrible and first person shooter games. For me 3d is good and all but if the game sucks I don't care if you have the most realistic 3d enviroments and visual effects nothing will hide that fact. Of course I do like it when new jrpgs come out like lost odyssey just the snes era was where I was the most happiest with the game play. I think some companies have gotten side tracked with the 3d and forgotten about game play.
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  • WSGRandomPerson
     
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    Feb 21, 2008 3:59 pm GMT
    The only thing i like SNES sprites better then some graphics now.

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    The only thing i like SNES sprites better then some graphics now.
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  • Pvt_Murphy
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 12:23 am GMT

    I can't say I prefer them, but I don't mind bad graphics if the game behind them is good enough.

    Graphics need to be just as good to draw you in together with the gameplay. If the gameplay does a better job of drawing you in the graphics can be worse. If the gameplay is dull, the graphics need to make up for it.

    A 3d shooter example:

    Doom 3 pretty much needs its good graphics because the gameplay alone is dull and the only thing that makes the game worth playing are the good graphics.

    Operation Flashpoint on the other hand has totally crappy graphics but the gameplay is so thrilling that you still feel involved.

    Comic games ala Mario Kart are a different matter though and there, as long as the graphics don't hurt (e.g. flashing colors or extreme blurring etc.) and you can make out what is going on that is perfectly fine. I still play Mario Kart 64 and I never think: Damn that looks bad. In fact I never think about the graphics at all.

    2d games are different again and I agree with what was pointed out earlier: There isn't much competition with newer games since a 2d game always looks more or less like old 2d games. HD sprites VS. old, pixelated sprites. That's the pretty much the only thing that seperates them and to be honest, HD sprites have to look very, very good to compete with the charm of pixelated one. Just my opinion though.

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    I can't say I prefer them, but I don't mind bad graphics if the game behind them is good enough.

    Graphics need to be just as good to draw you in together with the gameplay. If the gameplay does a better job of drawing you in the graphics can be worse. If the gameplay is dull, the graphics need to make up for it.

    A 3d shooter example:

    Doom 3 pretty much needs its good graphics because the gameplay alone is dull and the only thing that makes the game worth playing are the good graphics.

    Operation Flashpoint on the other hand has totally crappy graphics but the gameplay is so thrilling that you still feel involved.

    Comic games ala Mario Kart are a different matter though and there, as long as the graphics don't hurt (e.g. flashing colors or extreme blurring etc.) and you can make out what is going on that is perfectly fine. I still play Mario Kart 64 and I never think: Damn that looks bad. In fact I never think about the graphics at all.

    2d games are different again and I agree with what was pointed out earlier: There isn't much competition with newer games since a 2d game always looks more or less like old 2d games. HD sprites VS. old, pixelated sprites. That's the pretty much the only thing that seperates them and to be honest, HD sprites have to look very, very good to compete with the charm of pixelated one. Just my opinion though.

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  • GabuEx
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 12:44 am GMT

    I have to admit that there's a very distinct charm to the 2D SNES-esque graphics. As the GBA nicely illustrated (and as the DS is carrying on in some games), 2D certainly isn't dead, and it absolutely is possible to make quality games that don't require photorealistic graphics. But I don't agree that I find this preferable to 3D photorealistic graphics.

    Personally, I'm extremely wary of saying anything at all as a universality about what graphics should be. There's no real way to compare, say, Okami with Resident Evil 4 and say that one's graphics are better than the other. They're two totally different styles of graphics, one artistic and another realistic. Me, I just look at the game and ask whether or not the graphics are appropriate. If so, no need to go beyond what you've got. I'm certainly not in the camp of those whose frame of mind is one of "photorealism or bust" within video games; I'd say that that extreme is no better than the other.

    Edited on Feb 22, 2008 12:45 am GMT

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    I have to admit that there's a very distinct charm to the 2D SNES-esque graphics. As the GBA nicely illustrated (and as the DS is carrying on in some games), 2D certainly isn't dead, and it absolutely is possible to make quality games that don't require photorealistic graphics. But I don't agree that I find this preferable to 3D photorealistic graphics.

    Personally, I'm extremely wary of saying anything at all as a universality about what graphics should be. There's no real way to compare, say, Okami with Resident Evil 4 and say that one's graphics are better than the other. They're two totally different styles of graphics, one artistic and another realistic. Me, I just look at the game and ask whether or not the graphics are appropriate. If so, no need to go beyond what you've got. I'm certainly not in the camp of those whose frame of mind is one of "photorealism or bust" within video games; I'd say that that extreme is no better than the other.

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  • Buffalo_Soulja
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 2:41 am GMT
    I'll say this; I enjoy games which use visual design to complement gameplay rather than dominate it.
    I'll say this; I enjoy games which use visual design to complement gameplay rather than dominate it.
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  • skp_16
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 6:31 am GMT

    Chilled_AB wrote:
    Well as long as the gameplay is awesome I don't care what the graphics are like be it realistic or stylish or what-ever.

    100% true. I really hope that the current gen is not just good graphics. And I also do hope that there will be a Rogue Galaxy or Okami type of graphics in this gen.

    Edited on Feb 22, 2008 6:32 am GMT

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    [QUOTE="Chilled_AB"]Well as long as the gameplay is awesome I don't care what the graphics are like be it realistic or stylish or what-ever.[/QUOTE]

    100% true. I really hope that the current gen is not just good graphics. And I also do hope that there will be a Rogue Galaxy or Okami type of graphics in this gen.

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  • 3KindgomsRandy
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 6:43 am GMT
    skp_16 wrote:

    Chilled_AB wrote:
    Well as long as the gameplay is awesome I don't care what the graphics are like be it realistic or stylish or what-ever.

    100% true. I really hope that the current gen is not just good graphics. And I also do hope that there will be a Rogue Galaxy or Okami type of graphics in this gen.

    Well, Eternal Sonata has the same type of art style already. And it looks fantastic.



    [QUOTE="skp_16"]

    [QUOTE="Chilled_AB"]Well as long as the gameplay is awesome I don't care what the graphics are like be it realistic or stylish or what-ever.[/QUOTE]

    100% true. I really hope that the current gen is not just good graphics. And I also do hope that there will be a Rogue Galaxy or Okami type of graphics in this gen.

    [/QUOTE]

    Well, Eternal Sonata has the same type of art style already. And it looks fantastic.

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  • jalexbrown
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 7:20 am GMT

    I care more about art direction that visual quality. Some of the old sprite-based games had excellent art direction. Perhaps there were no polygons back then, but there were art directors who knew how to take those sprites and create a game that had atmosphere and nice visuals. Very few games today capture that sense of increadible artistic direction. They manage to have amazing visuals, but the artistic direction is usually pretty crappy. The only two exceptions immediately coming to mind this gen are Bioshock and Oblivion. Both of those games had excellent graphics and an excellent artistic direction at the same time.

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    I care more about art direction that visual quality. Some of the old sprite-based games had excellent art direction. Perhaps there were no polygons back then, but there were art directors who knew how to take those sprites and create a game that had atmosphere and nice visuals. Very few games today capture that sense of increadible artistic direction. They manage to have amazing visuals, but the artistic direction is usually pretty crappy. The only two exceptions immediately coming to mind this gen are Bioshock and Oblivion. Both of those games had excellent graphics and an excellent artistic direction at the same time.

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  • PickGlove243
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 3:53 pm GMT

    I sort of do.

    I like the graphics on games like Baldur's Gate II and Fallout more than on modern games I've seen.




    I sort of do.

    I like the graphics on games like Baldur's Gate II and Fallout more than on modern games I've seen.

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  • BuryMe
     
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    Feb 22, 2008 4:14 pm GMT
    I like old graphics more. I'd much rather look at most ps1 games than 360 and ps3 games

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    I like old graphics more. I'd much rather look at most ps1 games than 360 and ps3 games
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