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  • ttobba07
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:23 pm GMT

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Edited on Mar 19, 2008 6:48 pm GMT

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    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

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  • f50p90
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:25 pm GMT
    Yeah, problem now is Ps3 games have more data to read. Anyway none of it is noticable if you werent informed on a place like system wars
    Yeah, problem now is Ps3 games have more data to read. Anyway none of it is noticable if you werent informed on a place like system wars
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  • LibertySaint
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:27 pm GMT
    the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.

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    the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:29 pm GMT

    LibertySaint wrote:
    the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.

    By usually you mean the 4-5 games out of about 100?

    [QUOTE="LibertySaint"]the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.[/QUOTE]

    By usually you mean the 4-5 games out of about 100?

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    Mar 19, 2008 6:31 pm GMT
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

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    [QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

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  • rocoswav
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:34 pm GMT
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    are you serious?

    [QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you serious?

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  • ttobba07
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:38 pm GMT
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    Almost all 360 games are DL

    Edited on Mar 19, 2008 6:40 pm GMT Edited 2 total times.

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    [QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    Almost all 360 games are DL

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  • blackace
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:39 pm GMT
    rocoswav wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    are you serious?

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    Edited on Mar 19, 2008 6:41 pm GMT

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    [QUOTE="rocoswav"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you serious?

    [/QUOTE]

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

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  • hayato_
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:42 pm GMT
    asdasd wrote:

    LibertySaint wrote:
    the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.

    By usually you mean the 4-5 games out of about 100?

    Most games on the PS3 have installs, they are just small and at the beginning. UNcharted and Heavenly Sword for instance

    Only capcom and a game called Hot shots golf does large installs. I think GT 5 Prologue has on also if you don't download it from PSN

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    [QUOTE="asdasd"]

    [QUOTE="LibertySaint"]the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.[/QUOTE]

    By usually you mean the 4-5 games out of about 100?

    [/QUOTE]

    Most games on the PS3 have installs, they are just small and at the beginning. UNcharted and Heavenly Sword for instance

    Only capcom and a game called Hot shots golf does large installs. I think GT 5 Prologue has on also if you don't download it from PSN

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  • wdave92
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:43 pm GMT
    blackace wrote:
    rocoswav wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    are you serious?

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    dude he said double layer not dual layer

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    [QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rocoswav"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you serious?

    [/QUOTE]

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    [/QUOTE]

    dude he said double layer not dual layer

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  • EwokAssassin
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:45 pm GMT
    blackace wrote:
    rocoswav wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    are you serious?

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    You didn't just say that....

    [QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rocoswav"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you serious?

    [/QUOTE]

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    [/QUOTE]

    You didn't just say that....

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    Link fixed

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  • Ontain
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:50 pm GMT

    2 issues.

    1. data can be placed in the faster section and they can place the cgi and audio in the slower section.

    2. during loads the data can be in different location on the disc. for instance textures of one level could be also used in another level. unless there are multiple copies of those texture files it would be nessicary to move the laser to different locations on the disc. so the question is, What's the seek time of the ps3 compared to dvd?

    2 issues.

    1. data can be placed in the faster section and they can place the cgi and audio in the slower section.

    2. during loads the data can be in different location on the disc. for instance textures of one level could be also used in another level. unless there are multiple copies of those texture files it would be nessicary to move the laser to different locations on the disc. so the question is, What's the seek time of the ps3 compared to dvd?

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    Mar 19, 2008 6:51 pm GMT
    blackace wrote:
    rocoswav wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    are you serious?

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    i don't know what to say except

    [QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rocoswav"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you serious?

    [/QUOTE]

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    [/QUOTE]

    i don't know what to say except :lol:

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    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    This is true, but this thread is pointless in SW. In SW all the system's have horrible flaws, especially the PS3.

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    [QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    This is true, but this thread is pointless in SW. In SW all the system's have horrible flaws, especially the PS3.

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    Mar 19, 2008 6:53 pm GMT

    Games on PS3 load just as fast or faster than their X360 counterparts. I find it hilarious that lemmings bash PS3 for installs. X360 would have installs as well if Microsoft didn't take a step backward with X360. MS had it right with the original Xbox including a hard drive with every system.

    Games on PS3 load just as fast or faster than their X360 counterparts. I find it hilarious that lemmings bash PS3 for installs. X360 would have installs as well if Microsoft didn't take a step backward with X360. MS had it right with the original Xbox including a hard drive with every system.
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  • BubbyJello
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:54 pm GMT
    wdave92 wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    rocoswav wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    are you serious?

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    dude he said double layer not dual layer

    Dual layer and Double layer are the same thing.

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    [QUOTE="wdave92"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rocoswav"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you serious?

    [/QUOTE]

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    [/QUOTE]

    dude he said double layer not dual layer

    [/QUOTE]

    Dual layer and Double layer are the same thing.

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    Mar 19, 2008 6:55 pm GMT
    wdave92 wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    rocoswav wrote:
    blackace wrote:
    ttobba07 wrote:

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    are you serious?

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    dude he said double layer not dual layer

    Aaaahhh.. I got them mixed up. Yeah, I was thinking Dual Layer. Still if the Blu-Ray is supposely so much faster, why all the lag? Why do 5GB of data need to be put in a PS3 HDD so the game can be run with less lag and load times. There's obviously still an issue with the transfer rate of Blu-Ray, moreso then the XBox 360's DVD.

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    BubbyJello wrote:
    Dual layer and Double layer are the same thing.

    Well, that's what I was thinking. This is what I found.

    [url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_a_difference_between_double_layer_and_dual_layer_DVDs_or_are_those_just_different_terms_for_the_same_thing[/url]

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    [QUOTE="wdave92"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rocoswav"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="ttobba07"]

    I read all this about ps3 bluray drive being slow. Lets compare the read rates.

    Ps3's 2x blu-ray drive read at a constant 9 MB/s no matter if it is dual layer or single layer.

    360's 12x DVD-rom drive It read at fluxuating rates. For single layer it reads 9.25MB/s through 15.85MB/s averaging around 10.25MB/s. In Double layer it reads 4.36MB/s through 10.57MB/s averaging around 7.93MB/s

    Here is the source for the DVD-rom drive http://www.hitachi.us/supportingdocs...ead%20speed%22

    Here is the source for the Blu-ray drive http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

    The ps3's constant read speed for SL and DL is faster then the average of 360's DL read speed. So what is with all this crap about ps3's read rate being slow.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, so what you're saying is the 360's 12X DVD rom drive reads faster then Blu-Ray. I think everyone already knew this. None of the DVD's released on the XBox 360 are double_layered. Thanks for the info.

    [/QUOTE]

    are you serious?

    [/QUOTE]

    Double layer is being able to read on both sides of the DVD. The DVD's are compressed. If I flip my DVD over on the other side, I don't think it'll play. Do you? Also, your link doesn't work.

    [/QUOTE]

    dude he said double layer not dual layer

    [/QUOTE]

    Aaaahhh.. I got them mixed up. Yeah, I was thinking Dual Layer. Still if the Blu-Ray is supposely so much faster, why all the lag? Why do 5GB of data need to be put in a PS3 HDD so the game can be run with less lag and load times. There's obviously still an issue with the transfer rate of Blu-Ray, moreso then the XBox 360's DVD.

    **************************************

    [QUOTE="BubbyJello"]Dual layer and Double layer are the same thing.[/QUOTE]

    Well, that's what I was thinking. This is what I found.

    [url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_there_a_difference_between_double_layer_and_dual_layer_DVDs_or_are_those_just_different_terms_for_the_same_thing[/url]

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  • dkhw
     
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    Mar 19, 2008 6:55 pm GMT
    asdasd wrote:

    LibertySaint wrote:
    the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.

    By usually you mean the 4-5 games out of about 100?

    You must not have a PS3.

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    [QUOTE="asdasd"]

    [QUOTE="LibertySaint"]the point is u can put the needed data on the dvd to the first layer so it is read fast and the 2nd layer data can be hdd cached making it faster then the ps3 at all times. that is why the ps3 usually has installs, because the needed data can either be always on the hdd or alaways be read of the disc.[/QUOTE]

    By usually you mean the 4-5 games out of about 100?

    [/QUOTE]

    You must not have a PS3.

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