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Wii U: Cost of Manufacturing detailed; System to see $300 price tag.
- Apr 9, 2012 8:39 am GMT
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
[QUOTE="peterw007"]
Why won't they be competing with the Wii U?
The N64 was competing with the PS1 and the Saturn.
The GC was competing with the PS2 and the Xbox.
If Nintendo releases a console with comparable specs, they will most definitely be competing with them.
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Because that's not Nintendo's plan. If it was then they would release a power house like the others rather than being reserved in power. Nintendo are just reaching HD now.
Also the different peripherals limit the chances of the WiiU competing and that's exactly what Nintendo want. Have limited hardware but innovate on that hardware so they get their own market away from the other two. Like they did with the Wii.
It's a very sound business plan and one that seems to pay off a lot.
What the HD twins go for is power and visuals. Certain people buy them for that. But with the ninty systems people generally prefer gameplay over visuals and can look passed the imperfections. Same with the WiiU. Certain times it will look dated ciompared to next gen systems but some won't care because of the added gameplay elements due to the peripherals.
I don't think Nintendo ever want to "Compete" with the other two. Just go up against them and steal the market the other two don't satisfy
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Who says that Sony and Microsoft will be releasing powerhouse consoles next gen?
If anything, the evidence points to Sony and Microsoft releasing underpowered consoles like the Wii U...as there just isn't a need any more for consoles with extreme graphical prowess.
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And doesn't the definition of "compete" in the video game industry mean "stealing market share"?
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Not the same thing. The consoles are underpowered in terms of modern PCs. The WiiU is underpowered by current consoles if rumours are to be taken as truth. The consoels while underpowered for a top of the line PC will still be a good bit stronger than right now
and yeah I guess I kinda worded that market share thing a bit wrong. contradicted myself.
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- Apr 9, 2012 8:46 am GMTUnless we see otherwise I'm expecting a normal $400 launch for sony/ms. Being they don't usually make a profit on them right away unlike nintendo, there will probably be tech differences again.
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- Apr 9, 2012 9:41 am GMT
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]
Sony makes a console that costs around 900$ to make, sells it for 599$. Is the devil.
Nintendo makes consoles that cost around 150$ to make, charges 300$. Is a Saint.
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True. It's how I felt soon after getting the Wii. It was like I just spent £180 on console a tiny bit more powerful than last gens GameCube.
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- Apr 9, 2012 9:48 am GMT
[QUOTE="peterw007"]
A $300 console.
I think that's fantastic, Nintendo.
Any higher and you won't be able to attract the casual crowd easily.
Any lower and you would scare away hardcore users.
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Just make sure that the $300 console has relatively decent hardware (better than Xbox 360 and PS3), and we'll be good to go.
[/QUOTE] nintendo didnt 100% focus on casual crowd NES era and they shouldnt now. NINTENDO RIP MISS YA
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- Apr 9, 2012 9:53 am GMTcharizard1605 wrote:Haziqonfire wrote:
You're perfectly fine with a PC/3DS until ... Nintendo shows you dat Zelda in HD. Don't lie to yourself
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After what they just pulled with Skyward Sword? It's gonna take a lot more than the allure of a new Zelda game to make me buy the Wii U now. The one game I would have bought it for would have been Super Smash Bros, but now that's coming to the 3DS too, so...
I still think that game is vapourware
SSB on Wii U with NiN will be the superior version
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]You're perfectly fine with a PC/3DS until ... Nintendo shows you dat Zelda in HD. Don't lie to yourself :P.
[/QUOTE] After what they just pulled with Skyward Sword? It's gonna take a lot more than the allure of a new Zelda game to make me buy the Wii U now. The one game I would have bought it for would have been Super Smash Bros, but now that's coming to the 3DS too, so...[/QUOTE] I still think that game is vapourware :P SSB on Wii U with NiN will be the superior version :cool:- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 9, 2012 10:33 am GMT
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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
This is EXACTLY where Nintendo needs to be at with this console next gen to really dominate. Perfect price I think
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I agree. At $300 I'll buy one on launch day.
On a sidenote, since Nintendo is advertising this as an "HD" console, it darn well better include an hdmi cable in the box.
[/QUOTE] you'll pay $300 for a system but then you'll moan about having to spend another $7 on an HDMI cable which you should already have by now? lol. the logic of console gamers never ceases to amaze.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 9, 2012 1:27 pm GMT
Endless Backlog.....It's coming.....
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]
A $300 console.
I think that's fantastic, Nintendo.
Any higher and you won't be able to attract the casual crowd easily.
Any lower and you would scare away hardcore users.
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Just make sure that the $300 console has relatively decent hardware (better than Xbox 360 and PS3), and we'll be good to go.
[/QUOTE] nintendo didnt 100% focus on casual crowd NES era and they shouldnt now. NINTENDO RIP MISS YA
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*Insert Epic Facepalm here*
You can't be serious, because that is a lot of fail you wrote.
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- Apr 9, 2012 2:25 pm GMTSony wrote:"I wish that they would come up with some strategies of their own, but they seem to be going down the path of everything we do." [speaking about Microsoft] SCEA boss Kaz Hirai in an interview with Official PlayStation Magazine the link below is a full list of 21 stupid and downright arrogant sony quotes.http://www.geek.com/games/sony-accuses-microsoft-of-copying-strategies-562537/
"PS2's Dual Shock controller is the de-facto industry standard for video games. And We define the standard for the man-machine interface for playing games. Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpotLink
[QUOTE="nismo8000"][QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
This is EXACTLY where Nintendo needs to be at with this console next gen to really dominate. Perfect price I think
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I agree. At $300 I'll buy one on launch day.
On a sidenote, since Nintendo is advertising this as an "HD" console, it darn well better include an hdmi cable in the box.
[/QUOTE] you'll pay $300 for a system but then you'll moan about having to spend another $7 on an HDMI cable which you should already have by now? lol. the logic of console gamers never ceases to amaze.[/QUOTE] This. The internet gaming community are the most cheap ass, spoiled, self entitled brats I have ever whitnessed in my entire life. people who will b*tch about a freaking subway sandwhich. Its 2012, you should have multiple HDMI cables lying around by now.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 9, 2012 2:30 pm GMT
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Not great news about specs, why would I really want a 3rd HD twin 5 years too late? Oh yeah, to play 5 to 7 good franchises "upgraded". I just don't get Nintendo. I hope they have an online gamertag like PSN and XBL and have an achievement/trophy system. Nintendo games were basically made for achievies.
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- Apr 9, 2012 2:41 pm GMTpainguy1 wrote:During E3 when we first got a glimpse of the WiiU it was reported to be using a R770 chip because the actual GPU was not ready. With that in mind we have either the 4850 or 4830.The 4850 has 800SPU's and the 4830 has 640 SPU's. Being realistic Nintendo would most likely opt for a GPU with 640 SPU's because of cost, temperature, and power consumption. The Xenos has a theoretical 240Gflops, and the 4830 is around 730. Thats roughly 3x Xenos.
I'm hoping it gets at least a 4830. Some people look at it like gfx whoring, but if Ninty is to receive decent 3rd-party support this time around, they're gonna need a GPU that can, at worst, play X3/PS4 ports at 720p. I've had a gut feeling we're gonna see a 4650 equivalent. Don't know. That Zelda demo was a meek 720p 0xAA. A 4830 would blow that outta the water. This is ME3 on my 4830...1080p, AA, motion blur, dynamic shadows, 3 cinematic lights, spherical harmonic lighting, 8xAF:
With a 4830/50, Zelda WiiU demo would've been running 1080p no problem. I loved getting more quality exclusives from the Wii than the 360/PS3, but I want both exclusives and 3rd-party support this time around.
[QUOTE="painguy1"]During E3 when we first got a glimpse of the WiiU it was reported to be using a R770 chip because the actual GPU was not ready. With that in mind we have either the 4850 or 4830.The 4850 has 800SPU's and the 4830 has 640 SPU's. Being realistic Nintendo would most likely opt for a GPU with 640 SPU's because of cost, temperature, and power consumption. The Xenos has a theoretical 240Gflops, and the 4830 is around 730. Thats roughly 3x Xenos.
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I'm hoping it gets at least a 4830. Some people look at it like gfx whoring, but if Ninty is to receive decent 3rd-party support this time around, they're gonna need a GPU that can, at worst, play X3/PS4 ports at 720p. I've had a gut feeling we're gonna see a 4650 equivalent. Don't know. That Zelda demo was a meek 720p 0xAA. A 4830 would blow that outta the water. This is ME3 on my 4830...1080p, AA, motion blur, dynamic shadows, 3 cinematic lights, spherical harmonic lighting, 8xAF:
With a 4830/50, Zelda WiiU demo would've been running 1080p no problem. I loved getting more quality exclusives from the Wii than the 360/PS3, but I want both exclusives and 3rd-party support this time around.
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- Apr 9, 2012 2:45 pm GMTSo I'm looking between $700 and $800 dollars next gen then. Good to know. I only plan on getting the Wii U and the next xbox system. $300 isn't bad at all for the Wii U.
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- Apr 9, 2012 5:00 pm GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
This is EXACTLY where Nintendo needs to be at with this console next gen to really dominate. Perfect price I think
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I agree. At $300 I'll buy one on launch day.
On a sidenote, since Nintendo is advertising this as an "HD" console, it darn well better include an hdmi cable in the box.
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lol why? You can get them extremely cheap anyway
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It's Nintendo--the cable has a 99.9% chance of being proprietary.
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