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What are some unpopular opinions you have about music?
- Apr 30, 2012 9:19 am GMTMaybe, but they have nothing to do with the music itself. Poetry is great, but it's not really needed in good music.LJS9502_basic wrote:They do if they come from someone with talent.....001011000101101 wrote:Never said anything about vocals. I love vocals, but I couldn't care less about lyrics. They mean nothing.LJS9502_basic wrote:Vocals are an instrument of music.....
Like, The Beatles. I couldn't care less about their lyrics. They've made some damn good melodies, and they were damn talented in that area. I listen to the music, not the words.
Edited on Apr 30, 2012 9:20 am GMT#1 - Rockstar Games
#2 - Bioware
#3 - The rest... No offense.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Vocals are an instrument of music.....:|[/QUOTE] Never said anything about vocals. I love vocals, but I couldn't care less about lyrics. They mean nothing. [/QUOTE] They do if they come from someone with talent.....[/QUOTE] Maybe, but they have nothing to do with the music itself. Poetry is great, but it's not really needed in good music.
Like, The Beatles. I couldn't care less about their lyrics. They've made some damn good melodies, and they were damn talented in that area. I listen to the music, not the words.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:20 am GMT001011000101101 wrote:Lyrics = the words. Vocals = the sound. I like the sound of the human voice. Couldn't care less about the words that's being sung.MadVybz wrote:001011000101101 wrote:No, because music like that is uninteresting. Music is emotions through sound. Not through poetry.
And vocalization of lyrics aren't sound...?
I'm sorry, you're really not making much sense.
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
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[QUOTE="001011000101101"] No, because music like that is uninteresting. Music is emotions through sound. Not through poetry. [/QUOTE]
And vocalization of lyrics aren't sound...? :|
I'm sorry, you're really not making much sense.
[/QUOTE] Lyrics = the words. Vocals = the sound. I like the sound of the human voice. Couldn't care less about the words that's being sung.[/QUOTE]
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:21 am GMTMadVybz wrote:001011000101101 wrote:Lyrics = the words. Vocals = the sound. I like the sound of the human voice. Couldn't care less about the words that's being sung.MadVybz wrote:
And vocalization of lyrics aren't sound...?
I'm sorry, you're really not making much sense.
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
No, I'm not. I know what I like.#1 - Rockstar Games
#2 - Bioware
#3 - The rest... No offense.
[QUOTE="MadVybz"][QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]
And vocalization of lyrics aren't sound...? :|
I'm sorry, you're really not making much sense.
[/QUOTE] Lyrics = the words. Vocals = the sound. I like the sound of the human voice. Couldn't care less about the words that's being sung.[/QUOTE]
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
[/QUOTE] No, I'm not. I know what I like.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- [QUOTE="Zeviander"]The hybridization of extreme metal and symphonic arrangements is quite possibly the most musically beautiful thing ever. A prefect contrast between the harsh power of distorted instruments and strained vocals combined with the sharp cleanliness of unmodified instruments and piercing intensity of clean vocals. Granted, both genres apart have their place and their own beauty, but when they come together, they just get my motor running like nothing else.[/QUOTE] [Url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poxaSiqUBPQ[/Url] Amazing
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:25 am GMT[Sig pending. Have another beer!][QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]
[QUOTE="001011000101101"] Lyrics = the words. Vocals = the sound. I like the sound of the human voice. Couldn't care less about the words that's being sung.[/QUOTE]
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
[/QUOTE] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] As true as that is, knowledge and understanding comes from all sorts of mediums, including music. That's what I meant. To disregard the lyrical value of music is to undermine loads of talented people with something actually worth saying in their passion.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 30, 2012 9:25 am GMT
Led Zeppelin are very overrated
Emo is an excellent genre (as long as you stay away from the mainstream groups)
Kurt Cobain couldn't sing and his guitar playing was nothing notable
All AC/DC songs sound the same
Jimi Hendrix is the most overrated musician in history, and his singing was poor.
I cannot stand Tom Wait's voice one bit. At least he can write a song
Nine Inch Nails are a poor example of an industrial group. If you want industrial, listen to Skinny Puppy (I really like NIN with that said)
Cliff Burton was nothing special. His bass playing was decent
Reign in Blood is hella overrated. Hell Awaits is the best Slayer album.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:25 am GMT
[QUOTE="MadVybz"][QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
[/QUOTE] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] As true as that is, knowledge and understanding comes from all sorts of mediums, including music. That's what I meant. To disregard the lyrical value of music is to undermine loads of talented people with something actually worth saying in their passion. [/QUOTE]That's very well said......- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 30, 2012 9:25 am GMT
[QUOTE="lazerface216"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] some people don't like the beatles, get over it.[/QUOTE] I know some people don't like the Beatles, this is an unfortunate fact of life. These people are an underclass of society that require treatment and education, not scorn. [/QUOTE]
exactly, if you can't at least appreciate what the beatles did for music then the problem is with YOU AND YOU ONLY.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:28 am GMT
trent reznor is far beyond industrial, it's disrespectful to try and even pigeonhole him like that. jimi hendrix created an entire sound, clean vocals are overrated.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:30 am GMT
#1 - Rockstar Games
#2 - Bioware
#3 - The rest... No offense.
[QUOTE="MadVybz"][QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
[/QUOTE] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] As true as that is, knowledge and understanding comes from all sorts of mediums, including music. That's what I meant. To disregard the lyrical value of music is to undermine loads of talented people with something actually worth saying in their passion. [/QUOTE] I don't care about the artist's message. If he/she makes good music, that I enjoy listening to, I'll listen to it. Lyrics are not needed, for me to be able to enjoy it. I enjoy the music, not the poetry. I'm not asking you to share my view, but please don't tell me I'm missing out on anything, just because I don't care about lyrics at all. I don't need the artist to tell me what to feel. If the music is good, it'll speak for itself.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:30 am GMT
[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I know some people don't like the Beatles, this is an unfortunate fact of life. These people are an underclass of society that require treatment and education, not scorn. [/QUOTE]
exactly, if you can't at least appreciate what the beatles did for music then the problem is with YOU AND YOU ONLY.
[/QUOTE] I can appreciate what they did for the music industry just not what they have recorded[/QUOTE]
and that's fine, what they did for music in general goes far beyond any single person's opinion of them.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:31 am GMT
[QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]
[QUOTE="001011000101101"] Lyrics = the words. Vocals = the sound. I like the sound of the human voice. Couldn't care less about the words that's being sung.[/QUOTE]
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
[/QUOTE] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] Thats something a close-minded person would say admitting that there is no other music talent out there to find enjoyable shows how unhealthy your music selection really is
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:32 am GMT
#1 - Rockstar Games
#2 - Bioware
#3 - The rest... No offense.
[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]
Then all I can say is that you're missing out.
[/QUOTE] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] Thats something a close-minded person would say admitting that there is no other music talent out there to find enjoyable shows how unhealthy your music selection really is
[/QUOTE] I've tried listening to rock music, and I hated every second of it. It's just not for me. People have different tastes in music, and calling people close-minded, because they know what they like, is ridiculous.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 30, 2012 9:34 am GMT
[QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]
[QUOTE="001011000101101"] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] Thats something a close-minded person would say admitting that there is no other music talent out there to find enjoyable shows how unhealthy your music selection really is
[/QUOTE] I've tried listening to rock music, and I hated every second of it. It's just not for me. People have different tastes in music, and calling people close-minded, because they know what they like, is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] No, its close minded saying that you cant expand your music tastes at all, which will and never should be the case or it it just goes to show you have close minded unhealthy thinking
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:36 am GMT001011000101101 wrote:I don't care about the artist's message. If he/she makes good music, that I enjoy listening to, I'll listen to it. Lyrics are not needed, for me to be able to enjoy it. I enjoy the music, not the poetry. I'm not asking you to share my view, but please don't tell me I'm missing out on anything, just because I don't care about lyrics at all. I don't need the artist to tell me what to feel. If the music is good, it'll speak for itself.MadVybz wrote:As true as that is, knowledge and understanding comes from all sorts of mediums, including music. That's what I meant. To disregard the lyrical value of music is to undermine loads of talented people with something actually worth saying in their passion.001011000101101 wrote:No, I'm not. I know what I like.
You're aguably not listening to the music if you're ignoring the dominant element of it.
Also, it's not even necessarily the artist telling you what to feel.
You sound a lot like how I did prior to exploring lyrical content more critically.You're really working on some twisted logic here. Granted, yes, everyone is allowed to listen to the music they like and in what manor, but just because you have the freedm to do so does not mean that you aren't missing out or aren't undermining the artist's hard work.
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[QUOTE="MadVybz"][QUOTE="001011000101101"] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] As true as that is, knowledge and understanding comes from all sorts of mediums, including music. That's what I meant. To disregard the lyrical value of music is to undermine loads of talented people with something actually worth saying in their passion. [/QUOTE] I don't care about the artist's message. If he/she makes good music, that I enjoy listening to, I'll listen to it. Lyrics are not needed, for me to be able to enjoy it. I enjoy the music, not the poetry. I'm not asking you to share my view, but please don't tell me I'm missing out on anything, just because I don't care about lyrics at all. I don't need the artist to tell me what to feel. If the music is good, it'll speak for itself.
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You're aguably not listening to the music if you're ignoring the dominant element of it.
Also, it's not even necessarily the artist telling you what to feel. :|You sound a lot like how I did prior to exploring lyrical content more critically.
You're really working on some twisted logic here. Granted, yes, everyone is allowed to listen to the music they like and in what manor, but just because you have the freedm to do so does not mean that you aren't missing out or aren't undermining the artist's hard work.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:37 am GMT[Sig pending. Have another beer!]
[QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]
[QUOTE="001011000101101"] No, I'm not. I know what I like.[/QUOTE] Thats something a close-minded person would say admitting that there is no other music talent out there to find enjoyable shows how unhealthy your music selection really is
[/QUOTE] I've tried listening to rock music, and I hated every second of it. It's just not for me. People have different tastes in music, and calling people close-minded, because they know what they like, is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I initially hated heavy metal. A few years later, now I'm a metalhead.
Anyone can change their viewpoints on anything, in time.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:40 am GMT
#1 - Rockstar Games
#2 - Bioware
#3 - The rest... No offense.
[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"] Thats something a close-minded person would say admitting that there is no other music talent out there to find enjoyable shows how unhealthy your music selection really is[/QUOTE] I've tried listening to rock music, and I hated every second of it. It's just not for me. People have different tastes in music, and calling people close-minded, because they know what they like, is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] No, its close minded saying that you cant expand your music tastes at all[/QUOTE] You don't even know what I listen to, so how the hell can you even say that? I don't want to listen to rock music. It has nothing to do with me not wanting to expand my taste in music. I've given it lots of chances. My dad constantly listened to rock music during my childhood. I just don't like the sound of it. It means nothing to me. Apart from a small selection of tracks, I just don't gain anything from it. I just can't take people like you seriously. You sit there and judge my taste in music, just because I don't care for lyrics and rock guitars. You have no idea what I actually listen to, and you're acting extremely arrogant. Get down from your high horse, and accept not everyone has to enjoy the music you enjoy.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 30, 2012 9:43 am GMT[QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="001011000101101"] I've tried listening to rock music, and I hated every second of it. It's just not for me. People have different tastes in music, and calling people close-minded, because they know what they like, is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] No, its close minded saying that you cant expand your music tastes at all[/QUOTE] You don't even know what I listen to, so how the hell can you even say that? I don't want to listen to rock music. It has nothing to do with me not wanting to expand my taste in music. I've given it lots of chances. My dad constantly listened to rock music during my childhood. I just don't like the sound of it. It means nothing to me. Apart from a small selection of tracks, I just don't gain anything from it. I just can't take people like you seriously. You sit there and judge my taste in music, just because I don't care for lyrics and rock guitars. You have no idea what I actually listen to, and you're acting extremely arrogant. Get down from your high horse, and accept not everyone has to enjoy the music you enjoy. [/QUOTE] Yeah everyone has the right to enjoy what they enjoy....but if you give genres a chance...there is always good music to find within any genre. I used to listen to only rock but now I listen to a much wider range of music. Which is great IMO.
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- Apr 30, 2012 9:43 am GMTMadVybz wrote:001011000101101 wrote:I don't care about the artist's message. If he/she makes good music, that I enjoy listening to, I'll listen to it. Lyrics are not needed, for me to be able to enjoy it. I enjoy the music, not the poetry. I'm not asking you to share my view, but please don't tell me I'm missing out on anything, just because I don't care about lyrics at all. I don't need the artist to tell me what to feel. If the music is good, it'll speak for itself.MadVybz wrote:As true as that is, knowledge and understanding comes from all sorts of mediums, including music. That's what I meant. To disregard the lyrical value of music is to undermine loads of talented people with something actually worth saying in their passion.
You're aguably not listening to the music if you're ignoring the dominant element of it.
Also, it's not even necessarily the artist telling you what to feel.
You sound a lot like how I did prior to exploring lyrical content more critically.You're really working on some twisted logic here. Granted, yes, everyone is allowed to listen to the music they like and in what manor, but just because you have the freedm to do so does not mean that you aren't missing out or aren't undermining the artist's hard work.
Okay, let's try again. I enjoy music. Not lyrics. They just don't do anything for me. Why should I sit down and force myself to listen to music I don't enjoy? I. Just. Don't. Enjoy. Lyrics. They do nothing for me.#1 - Rockstar Games
#2 - Bioware
#3 - The rest... No offense.
[QUOTE="MadVybz"][QUOTE="001011000101101"]
[QUOTE="MadVybz"] As true as that is, knowledge and understanding comes from all sorts of mediums, including music. That's what I meant. To disregard the lyrical value of music is to undermine loads of talented people with something actually worth saying in their passion. [/QUOTE] I don't care about the artist's message. If he/she makes good music, that I enjoy listening to, I'll listen to it. Lyrics are not needed, for me to be able to enjoy it. I enjoy the music, not the poetry. I'm not asking you to share my view, but please don't tell me I'm missing out on anything, just because I don't care about lyrics at all. I don't need the artist to tell me what to feel. If the music is good, it'll speak for itself.
[/QUOTE]
You're aguably not listening to the music if you're ignoring the dominant element of it.
Also, it's not even necessarily the artist telling you what to feel. :|You sound a lot like how I did prior to exploring lyrical content more critically.
You're really working on some twisted logic here. Granted, yes, everyone is allowed to listen to the music they like and in what manor, but just because you have the freedm to do so does not mean that you aren't missing out or aren't undermining the artist's hard work.
[/QUOTE] Okay, let's try again. I enjoy music. Not lyrics. They just don't do anything for me. Why should I sit down and force myself to listen to music I don't enjoy? I. Just. Don't. Enjoy. Lyrics. They do nothing for me.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Apr 30, 2012 9:44 am GMT
[QUOTE="MadVybz"]
[QUOTE="001011000101101"][QUOTE="Mcspanky37"] Thats something a close-minded person would say admitting that there is no other music talent out there to find enjoyable shows how unhealthy your music selection really is
[/QUOTE] I've tried listening to rock music, and I hated every second of it. It's just not for me. People have different tastes in music, and calling people close-minded, because they know what they like, is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I initially hated heavy metal. A year later, now I'm a metalhead.
Anyone can change their viewpoints on anything, in time.
[/QUOTE] When I was a kid I used to think rap was the sh*t then a left that genre for a while and listened to some old school heavy metal bands and then got into progressive metal which was the genre I guess opend my tastes to a bunch of different genres such as Ambient, Classical, Black Metal, Death Metal, some Folk Russian metal
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