- May 31, 2012 11:52 am GMTkingkong0124 wrote:
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Superstars should not get the calls. There is no reason that Lebron James with his aggressive play in the 93 minutes he has played thus far in this series to have 4 fouls. That is an embarrassment and shows the lack of crediability with this league.[/QUOTE] Nope. People watch the game for high profile superstars and that's why they get the calls. Start calling fouls and them and getting out of games faster would produce a domino effect in which their teams have a higher likelihood of getting ousted by an inferior team which drives ratings down the toilet. People like Boston vs. Miami in the ECF. People don't like the idea of Indiana vs. Philadelphia in the ECF.[/QUOTE] So hence the crediability of the game is lost, because there is none if refs are now controlling the game and not the players. [/QUOTE] And it's worth it considering the effect that if supposed lost credibility be restored, there would be more Philadelphia-Indiana esque series happening right now. It's all about generating revenue, and the league won't do that with the Pacers beating the Sixers 72-70 in an ECF game.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- [QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Superstars should not get the calls. There is no reason that Lebron James with his aggressive play in the 93 minutes he has played thus far in this series to have 4 fouls. That is an embarrassment and shows the lack of crediability with this league.[/QUOTE] Hahaha... Dude just go ahead and write a letter to the NBA. :lol:[/QUOTE] I wouldn't waste my time as the commisioner believes there is nothing wrong with the refs in the NBA. I gaurantee I will come on this forum this weekend and when calls are going for the Celtics on their home court, you will be sitting here complaining about how bad the officiating is. [/QUOTE] And what did you just prove....? That the game balances itself out, the celtics will get calls in TD Garden. They always do.
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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"] Hahaha... Dude just go ahead and write a letter to the NBA. :lol:[/QUOTE] I wouldn't waste my time as the commisioner believes there is nothing wrong with the refs in the NBA. I gaurantee I will come on this forum this weekend and when calls are going for the Celtics on their home court, you will be sitting here complaining about how bad the officiating is. [/QUOTE] And what did you just prove....? That the game balances itself out, the celtics will get calls in TD Garden. They always do.[/QUOTE] It proved that officiating is horrible. I'm sorry but it's obvious that the NBA is in bed with Lebron. That they will do anything for to succeed. 93 minutes and 4 fouls? Are you kidding me? Paul Pierce Hall of Famer, was pretty agressive last night gets 6 free throws, and fouls out. Are you kidding me? It's a joke. A complete joke. Last night was terrible officiating, infact this whole series thus far has been one of the worst I have ever seen. 5 technicals fouls in the first game(1 is legit, I guess)? Are you serious? Any reasonable NBA fan would agree and say that the officiating has been terrible and has gone totally Miami's way. Sickening. almost 50 free throws last night. Yes some were because of foolish fouling by the celtics, but the rest are very questionable and ticky tack if anything. A missed call on Rondo ended up being a 5 point swing in the game that favored the Heat and won it for them.
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- [QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Nope. People watch the game for high profile superstars and that's why they get the calls. Start calling fouls and them and getting out of games faster would produce a domino effect in which their teams have a higher likelihood of getting ousted by an inferior team which drives ratings down the toilet. People like Boston vs. Miami in the ECF. People don't like the idea of Indiana vs. Philadelphia in the ECF.[/QUOTE] So hence the crediability of the game is lost, because there is none if refs are now controlling the game and not the players. [/QUOTE] And it's worth it considering the effect that if supposed lost credibility be restored, there would be more Philadelphia-Indiana esque series happening right now. It's all about generating revenue, and the league won't do that with the Pacers beating the Sixers 72-70 in an ECF game.[/QUOTE]No not at all if you mean to tell me that Lebron needs calls to go his way in order to win, then maybe he isn't the great player we all think is then.
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- May 31, 2012 12:08 pm GMT[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Superstars should not get the calls. There is no reason that Lebron James with his aggressive play in the 93 minutes he has played thus far in this series to have 4 fouls. That is an embarrassment and shows the lack of crediability with this league.[/QUOTE] I know a few guys who don't give a damn about the Heat and will only watch them if Wade is playing, I am not joking. If he's gone, guess what, they' are not watching. Stars bring ratings, it's that simple man. Indiana, ahead of only the Nets, had the lowest attendance ratings all season, obviously not including the playoffs. What does that tell you?
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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] I wouldn't waste my time as the commisioner believes there is nothing wrong with the refs in the NBA. I gaurantee I will come on this forum this weekend and when calls are going for the Celtics on their home court, you will be sitting here complaining about how bad the officiating is. [/QUOTE] And what did you just prove....? That the game balances itself out, the celtics will get calls in TD Garden. They always do.[/QUOTE] It proved that officiating is horrible. I'm sorry but it's obvious that the NBA is in bed with Lebron. That they will do anything for to succeed. 93 minutes and 4 fouls? Are you kidding me? Paul Pierce Hall of Famer, was pretty agressive last night gets 6 free throws, and fouls out. Are you kidding me? It's a joke. A complete joke. Last night was terrible officiating, infact this whole series thus far has been one of the worst I have ever seen. 5 technicals fouls in the first game(1 is legit, I guess)? Are you serious? Any reasonable NBA fan would agree and say that the officiating has been terrible and has gone totally Miami's way. Sickening. almost 50 free throws last night. Yes some were because of foolish fouling by the celtics, but the rest are very questionable and ticky tack if anything. A missed call on Rondo ended up being a 5 point swing in the game that favored the Heat and won it for them.
[/QUOTE] Wow...are you on the brink of tears? Get over it. Things like this always happen in the nba. Bottom line is that these things always happen at home court arenas. Stop with the BS conspiracy theories about the league wanting LBJ to get a ring. You sound pathetic :lol:- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- May 31, 2012 12:21 pm GMT
It seems to me that more people here care about superstars than the actual game of basketball itself. I don't see a problem with a 76ers-Pacers ECF, but the fact there are hardly any big names on both teams would make some people here support ref bias for superstar teams.
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- May 31, 2012 12:23 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Racer_XLR"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Superstars should not get the calls. There is no reason that Lebron James with his aggressive play in the 93 minutes he has played thus far in this series to have 4 fouls. That is an embarrassment and shows the lack of crediability with this league.[/QUOTE] I know a few guys who don't give a damn about the Heat and will only watch them if Wade is playing, I am not joking. If he's gone, guess what, they' are not watching. Stars bring ratings, it's that simple man. Indiana, ahead of only the Nets, had the lowest attendance ratings all season, obviously not including the playoffs. What does that tell you?[/QUOTE]That doesn't mean it is right to treat superstars better. Every league does it but I don't even watch basketball a lot and it seems like the NBA do it more than anybody else.
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- [QUOTE="Racer_XLR"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Superstars should not get the calls. There is no reason that Lebron James with his aggressive play in the 93 minutes he has played thus far in this series to have 4 fouls. That is an embarrassment and shows the lack of crediability with this league.[/QUOTE] I know a few guys who don't give a damn about the Heat and will only watch them if Wade is playing, I am not joking. If he's gone, guess what, they' are not watching. Stars bring ratings, it's that simple man. Indiana, ahead of only the Nets, had the lowest attendance ratings all season, obviously not including the playoffs. What does that tell you?[/QUOTE] Your right it's all about ratings... And yet the Spurs have continued to reach the nba finals despite them being known to decrease ratings. A thunder vs heat matchup would bring the league to new heights. Or how come a Kobe vs LeBron finals matchup was never arranged? Come on man.
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- May 31, 2012 12:28 pm GMT
All this is ridiculous.
The Celtics handed the game to the Heat.
They had a big lead and blew it. Lebron and Wade couldn't seal the deal in regulation and Celtics didn't get the rebound to potentially get the last shot of the game.
Yeah there was a blown call on Rondo but that happens ALL THE TIME. And that Garnett Wade collision was clearly a foul and then Wade pushed off with his leg.
Celtics had their chances and blew it.
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- May 31, 2012 12:30 pm GMTkingkong0124 wrote:
I also have NFL players entertaining me right now.
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] So hence the crediability of the game is lost, because there is none if refs are now controlling the game and not the players. [/QUOTE] And it's worth it considering the effect that if supposed lost credibility be restored, there would be more Philadelphia-Indiana esque series happening right now. It's all about generating revenue, and the league won't do that with the Pacers beating the Sixers 72-70 in an ECF game.[/QUOTE]No not at all if you mean to tell me that Lebron needs calls to go his way in order to win, then maybe he isn't the great player we all think is then.[/QUOTE] Not just LeBron. Kobe, Durant, Dwight, etc.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- May 31, 2012 12:31 pm GMTkingkong0124 wrote:
I also have NFL players entertaining me right now.
[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]It seems to me that more people here care about superstars than the actual game of basketball itself. I don't see a problem with a 76ers-Pacers ECF, but the fact there are hardly any big names on both teams would make some people here support ref bias for superstar teams.
[/QUOTE] Ratings and revenue killer for the league.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- May 31, 2012 12:34 pm GMT

Wouldn't be the first time a playoff game was rigged in one team's favor. Lebron and Wade can't foul out of a playoff game because the NBA wants them on the court. I'm sure they'd love to see them beat the spurs as well.
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- May 31, 2012 12:38 pm GMTkingkong0124 wrote:
I also have NFL players entertaining me right now.
[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]Wouldn't be the first time a playoff game was rigged in one team's favor. Lebron and Wade can't foul out of a playoff game because the NBA wants them on the court. I'm sure they'd love to see them beat the spurs as well.
[/QUOTE] If the NBA was rigged, they wouldn't have the Spurs winning 4 times.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"] And what did you just prove....? That the game balances itself out, the celtics will get calls in TD Garden. They always do.[/QUOTE] It proved that officiating is horrible. I'm sorry but it's obvious that the NBA is in bed with Lebron. That they will do anything for to succeed. 93 minutes and 4 fouls? Are you kidding me? Paul Pierce Hall of Famer, was pretty agressive last night gets 6 free throws, and fouls out. Are you kidding me? It's a joke. A complete joke. Last night was terrible officiating, infact this whole series thus far has been one of the worst I have ever seen. 5 technicals fouls in the first game(1 is legit, I guess)? Are you serious? Any reasonable NBA fan would agree and say that the officiating has been terrible and has gone totally Miami's way. Sickening. almost 50 free throws last night. Yes some were because of foolish fouling by the celtics, but the rest are very questionable and ticky tack if anything. A missed call on Rondo ended up being a 5 point swing in the game that favored the Heat and won it for them.
[/QUOTE] Wow...are you on the brink of tears? Get over it. Things like this always happen in the nba. Bottom line is that these things always happen at home court arenas. Stop with the BS conspiracy theories about the league wanting LBJ to get a ring. You sound pathetic :lol:[/QUOTE] Ok so a guy who gaurds 5 positions, plays as many minutes as he does, only comes away with 2 fouls? Are you kidding me? Its rediculous. I'm sorry, I'm far from tears pal, I have more things to worry about than how many fouls Lebron James gets, but at the end of the end I love sports and I'm sorry but the NBA has the worst officiating in all of sports. For a guy as aggressive as Lebron James has 9 fouls in 8 games. That is rediculous.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
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Wouldn't be the first time a playoff game was rigged in one team's favor. Lebron and Wade can't foul out of a playoff game because the NBA wants them on the court. I'm sure they'd love to see them beat the spurs as well.
[/QUOTE] If the NBA was rigged, they wouldn't have the Spurs winning 4 times.[/QUOTE] What you are saying is that they are rigged. You are claiming they purposely don't make calls and favor calls for particular players for revenues, is that not a form of a game being rigged?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- May 31, 2012 12:59 pm GMTkingkong0124 wrote:
I also have NFL players entertaining me right now.
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]Wouldn't be the first time a playoff game was rigged in one team's favor. Lebron and Wade can't foul out of a playoff game because the NBA wants them on the court. I'm sure they'd love to see them beat the spurs as well.
[/QUOTE] If the NBA was rigged, they wouldn't have the Spurs winning 4 times.[/QUOTE] What you are saying is that they are rigged. You are claiming they purposely don't make calls and favor calls for particular players for revenues, is that not a form of a game being rigged?[/QUOTE] That's my theory. I didn't say it was correct.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- May 31, 2012 1:01 pm GMT
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Superstars get the calls.Also, free throw disparty isn't new. Hell, Leon Powe had more free throws than the Laker team in game 2 of the '08 finals.
[/QUOTE] Superstars should not get the calls. There is no reason that Lebron James with his aggressive play in the 93 minutes he has played thus far in this series to have 4 fouls. That is an embarrassment and shows the lack of crediability with this league.[/QUOTE] Nope. People watch the game for high profile superstars and that's why they get the calls. Start calling fouls and them and getting out of games faster would produce a domino effect in which their teams have a higher likelihood of getting ousted by an inferior team which drives ratings down the toilet. People like Boston vs. Miami in the ECF. People don't like the idea of Indiana vs. Philadelphia in the ECF.[/QUOTE] So you know and agree NBA is a sham?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- May 31, 2012 1:03 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"] Hahaha... Dude just go ahead and write a letter to the NBA. :lol:[/QUOTE] I wouldn't waste my time as the commisioner believes there is nothing wrong with the refs in the NBA. I gaurantee I will come on this forum this weekend and when calls are going for the Celtics on their home court, you will be sitting here complaining about how bad the officiating is. [/QUOTE] And what did you just prove....? That the game balances itself out, the celtics will get calls in TD Garden. They always do.[/QUOTE] But that shouldn't be the case. It's just stupid. I'm not gonna sit here and act like Lakers, or any other team doesn't get the same treatment. But it's hard to stomach the treatment other teams get when compared to these teams. NBA is going to end up exposed big time I think and it will demolish all the revenue they are getting from this BS.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- [QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] If the NBA was rigged, they wouldn't have the Spurs winning 4 times.[/QUOTE] What you are saying is that they are rigged. You are claiming they purposely don't make calls and favor calls for particular players for revenues, is that not a form of a game being rigged?[/QUOTE] That's my theory. I didn't say it was correct.[/QUOTE] If anything the league needs series to go 7 games or they lose the money from advertisers. I do agree with the superstar catering in that they are giving the benefit of the doubt on a lot of calls because of what they do on the court and if they aren't able to do what they usually do then there must have been something that prohibited them from doing so, therefore a foul is called. The problem with that is it is getting out of hand. I mean 24 free throws for one player is ridiculous. That is more than half than what all of the Celtics had combined last night and the Celtics were agressive on top of that. My whole point it was a joke and the officiating is terrible and need to tone it down a bit with some of the superstars and the calls they get.
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