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Why do you think it is that multiplats are starting to be better on the PS3

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  • Level 22
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    Jul 1, 2012 6:33 am GMT
    loosingENDS wrote:

    SPYDER0416 wrote:

    loosingENDS wrote:

    Dark Souls - best graphics and performance on 360, by Digital Foundry

    Digital Foundry on Dark Souls

    They say its exactly the same you colossal moron, they even say if anything to pick the PS3 version for the extra sound options.

    Its just pathetic rehash trolling at this point, at least ispeakfact can come up with new material.

    Nope, if you actually read it, they say physcis in boss battles are far better on 360 and on PS3 it crawls to 10fps !!!!

    Also they clearly say PS3 has more blurry graphics

    LOL, the powerfull PS3 has the garbage Dark SOuls version




    Why do u always use the word garbage?
    [QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

    [QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

    [QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

    Dark Souls - best graphics and performance on 360, by Digital Foundry

    [/QUOTE]

    Digital Foundry on Dark Souls

    They say its exactly the same you colossal moron, they even say if anything to pick the PS3 version for the extra sound options.

    Its just pathetic rehash trolling at this point, at least ispeakfact can come up with new material.

    [/QUOTE]

    Nope, if you actually read it, they say physcis in boss battles are far better on 360 and on PS3 it crawls to 10fps !!!!

    Also they clearly say PS3 has more blurry graphics

    LOL, the powerfull PS3 has the garbage Dark SOuls version

    [/QUOTE] Why do u always use the word garbage?
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    Jul 1, 2012 6:34 am GMT

    speedfog wrote:

    campzor wrote:
    loosingENDS wrote:

    Mass Effect 3 - better on 360 . Skyrim - 10.000.000x times better on 360, graphics look 2-3 generations better and crisper and is playable on 360, unlike the unplayable blurry mess on PS3 . Dark Souls - best graphics and performance on 360, by Digital Foundry . So, which multiplatforms are you talking about exactly ? LOL .

    all the good games, not crap ones like you listed. Assassins Creed series , portal 2 - 10,000 x times better because of steamworks among others.

    Are ME3, Skyrim and Dark Souls crap game?

    Sure, if they dont support the TC fantasies that multipltform games look better on PS3 LOL

    Fact is PS3 gets the worst version of ALL latest games, it is that bad

    Skyrim looks a blurry mess, like a PS1 game on PS3

    My PS3, PS3 game collection and Kinect.

    2012 game lineup for XBox 360 thread, more exclusives than ever

    [QUOTE="speedfog"]

    [QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

    Mass Effect 3 - better on 360 . Skyrim - 10.000.000x times better on 360, graphics look 2-3 generations better and crisper and is playable on 360, unlike the unplayable blurry mess on PS3 . Dark Souls - best graphics and performance on 360, by Digital Foundry . So, which multiplatforms are you talking about exactly ? LOL .

    [/QUOTE] all the good games, not crap ones like you listed. Assassins Creed series , portal 2 - 10,000 x times better because of steamworks among others.[/QUOTE]

    Are ME3, Skyrim and Dark Souls crap game?

    [/QUOTE]

    Sure, if they dont support the TC fantasies that multipltform games look better on PS3 LOL

    Fact is PS3 gets the worst version of ALL latest games, it is that bad

    Skyrim looks a blurry mess, like a PS1 game on PS3

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    Jul 1, 2012 6:40 am GMT
    loosingENDS wrote:

    speedfog wrote:

    campzor wrote:
    all the good games, not crap ones like you listed. Assassins Creed series , portal 2 - 10,000 x times better because of steamworks among others.

    Are ME3, Skyrim and Dark Souls crap game?

    Sure, if they dont support the TC fantasies that multipltform games look better on PS3 LOL

    Fact is PS3 gets the worst version of ALL latest games, it is that bad

    Skyrim looks a blurry mess, like a PS1 game on PS3



    Dude skyrim isn't on ps1 and even if it was most ps3s aren't backwards compatible.to play the ps1 version. -.-
    [QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

    [QUOTE="speedfog"]

    [QUOTE="campzor"] all the good games, not crap ones like you listed. Assassins Creed series , portal 2 - 10,000 x times better because of steamworks among others.[/QUOTE]

    Are ME3, Skyrim and Dark Souls crap game?

    [/QUOTE]

    Sure, if they dont support the TC fantasies that multipltform games look better on PS3 LOL

    Fact is PS3 gets the worst version of ALL latest games, it is that bad

    Skyrim looks a blurry mess, like a PS1 game on PS3

    [/QUOTE] Dude skyrim isn't on ps1 and even if it was most ps3s aren't backwards compatible.to play the ps1 version. -.-
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    Jul 1, 2012 7:04 am GMT
    StrongDeadlift wrote:

    I got big wood.


    This thread is now about wood.

    gamertag: senor blanco PSN id: senor_blanco

    [QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

    I got big wood.

    :|

    [/QUOTE] This thread is now about wood. [IMG]http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/mawhite_photo/church-of-the-big-wood.jpg[/IMG]
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  • Level 42
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    Jul 1, 2012 7:08 am GMT
    5NYP3R-OO7 wrote:
    Multiplats have always been better on the PS3.
    inb4 a$$hurt lems start feeding me their tears.


    This. They all come with online out of the box.
    [QUOTE="5NYP3R-OO7"]Multiplats have always been better on the PS3. inb4 a$$hurt lems start feeding me their tears.[/QUOTE] This. They all come with online out of the box.
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    Jul 1, 2012 7:09 am GMT
    clone01 wrote:
    StrongDeadlift wrote:

    I got big wood.


    This thread is now about wood.

    .
    [QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

    I got big wood.

    :|

    [/QUOTE] This thread is now about wood. [IMG]http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/mawhite_photo/church-of-the-big-wood.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [img]http://macduffdesign.com/rampant/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/logo-big-wood-tree-expert.gif[/img].
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    Jul 1, 2012 7:14 am GMT
    StrongDeadlift wrote:

    .

    gamertag: senor blanco PSN id: senor_blanco

    [QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] [img]http://macduffdesign.com/rampant/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/logo-big-wood-tree-expert.gif[/img].[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/mawhite_photo/big_wood_trucker_hat-p148617189744080321z8nb8_400.jpg[/IMG]
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    Jul 1, 2012 7:16 am GMT
    speedfog wrote:

    campzor wrote:
    loosingENDS wrote:

    Mass Effect 3 - better on 360 . Skyrim - 10.000.000x times better on 360, graphics look 2-3 generations better and crisper and is playable on 360, unlike the unplayable blurry mess on PS3 . Dark Souls - best graphics and performance on 360, by Digital Foundry . So, which multiplatforms are you talking about exactly ? LOL .

    all the good games, not crap ones like you listed. Assassins Creed series , portal 2 - 10,000 x times better because of steamworks among others.

    Are ME3, Skyrim and Dark Souls crap game?


    Most definitely. Except for Skyrim.
    [QUOTE="speedfog"]

    [QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

    Mass Effect 3 - better on 360 . Skyrim - 10.000.000x times better on 360, graphics look 2-3 generations better and crisper and is playable on 360, unlike the unplayable blurry mess on PS3 . Dark Souls - best graphics and performance on 360, by Digital Foundry . So, which multiplatforms are you talking about exactly ? LOL .

    [/QUOTE] all the good games, not crap ones like you listed. Assassins Creed series , portal 2 - 10,000 x times better because of steamworks among others.[/QUOTE]

    Are ME3, Skyrim and Dark Souls crap game?

    [/QUOTE] Most definitely. Except for Skyrim.
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  • Level 31
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    Jul 1, 2012 8:44 am GMT

    Development methodology and tools being rewritten, game engines being rewritten.

    It'll never be complete parity because the PS3 GPU isn't up to snuff for "standard" development and they can't use DirectX.

    I think the 360 will always be the "safe" option, that you know the game will %100 work and it will look fine.

    But I also think there is more potential on PS3 to have games that look incredible just because they aren't bound by DirectX.

    It's hard to describe but basically all the effects and textures on 360 look similar between games. They look "canned."

    Whereas playing something like Killzone blows me away. Yeah Gears looks nice. But it doesn't look OMG NICE!!!!

    The old standby still stands in 2012 :

    360 better multiplats

    PS3 better exclusives

    The question remains whether it will be "safe" to buy GTA V on anything but a 360, and I think the answer in 2012 is "yes."

    I think it's finally time to put the old 360 away.

    Right after Halo 4

    Development methodology and tools being rewritten, game engines being rewritten.

    It'll never be complete parity because the PS3 GPU isn't up to snuff for "standard" development and they can't use DirectX.

    I think the 360 will always be the "safe" option, that you know the game will %100 work and it will look fine.

    But I also think there is more potential on PS3 to have games that look incredible just because they aren't bound by DirectX.

    It's hard to describe but basically all the effects and textures on 360 look similar between games. They look "canned."

    Whereas playing something like Killzone blows me away. Yeah Gears looks nice. But it doesn't look OMG NICE!!!!

    The old standby still stands in 2012 :

    360 better multiplats

    PS3 better exclusives

    The question remains whether it will be "safe" to buy GTA V on anything but a 360, and I think the answer in 2012 is "yes."

    I think it's finally time to put the old 360 away.

    Right after Halo 4 :twisted:

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    wood.jpg

    wood? thread is.

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  • Level 34
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    Jul 1, 2012 9:35 am GMT
    GamerwillzPS wrote:

    Yes, I'm seeing fewer inferior multiplats these days compared with '06 to '09.

    This is because developers have learned about the PS3 hardware and are more comfortable with it now.

    Developers who fail to make a functioning game these days are embarrassing themselves, such as Bethesda. They made a poor game, Skyrim, on PS3 and Bethesda should close down and go out of business.


    it has more to do with deving on the ps3 first, Lowest common denominator... then porting to 360

    but in reality neither is really more powerful, 360' memory is far more efficient, GPU is far more powerful, and then it still has 3 cores to really do anything like ai with. Its just a more flexible system, higher average through put even if the ps3 can have a higher peak.
    [QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

    Yes, I'm seeing fewer inferior multiplats these days compared with '06 to '09.

    This is because developers have learned about the PS3 hardware and are more comfortable with it now.

    Developers who fail to make a functioning game these days are embarrassing themselves, such as Bethesda. They made a poor game, Skyrim, on PS3 and Bethesda should close down and go out of business.

    [/QUOTE] it has more to do with deving on the ps3 first, Lowest common denominator... then porting to 360 but in reality neither is really more powerful, 360' memory is far more efficient, GPU is far more powerful, and then it still has 3 cores to really do anything like ai with. Its just a more flexible system, higher average through put even if the ps3 can have a higher peak.
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  • Level 34
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    Jul 1, 2012 9:48 am GMT
    ZombieKiller7 wrote:

    Development methodology and tools being rewritten, game engines being rewritten.

    It'll never be complete parity because the PS3 GPU isn't up to snuff for "standard" development and they can't use DirectX.

    I think the 360 will always be the "safe" option, that you know the game will %100 work and it will look fine.

    But I also think there is more potential on PS3 to have games that look incredible just because they aren't bound by DirectX.

    It's hard to describe but basically all the effects and textures on 360 look similar between games. They look "canned."

    Whereas playing something like Killzone blows me away. Yeah Gears looks nice. But it doesn't look OMG NICE!!!!

    The old standby still stands in 2012 :

    360 better multiplats

    PS3 better exclusives

    The question remains whether it will be "safe" to buy GTA V on anything but a 360, and I think the answer in 2012 is "yes."

    I think it's finally time to put the old 360 away.

    Right after Halo 4


    this is a giant load of crap,

    DirectX is fine, ps3 uses OpenGL... another standard. The reason why directx is bad at all is because of the way PC's work. Its not the api that makes it bad, its the driver model on windows, in order to make a call to it they have to go through kernel calls which also have to be serialized with other programs calling the same hardware. The kernel call takes a hit in performance and so does the synchronization to hold the GPU hardware. On 360 these layers just don't need to exist, there is huge speed up by not making DirectX kernel calls, dev's can call the api as often as they like without taking a hit in performance where is PC developers have been batching calls to get around this. The nature of the console allows the API to work direct to hardware unlike PC.

    The reason killzone blows you away is because the amount of post processing effects applied to the image, it has nothing to do with the way the GPU is rendering the image but because its basically smeared by effects after its rendered.
    [QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

    Development methodology and tools being rewritten, game engines being rewritten.

    It'll never be complete parity because the PS3 GPU isn't up to snuff for "standard" development and they can't use DirectX.

    I think the 360 will always be the "safe" option, that you know the game will %100 work and it will look fine.

    But I also think there is more potential on PS3 to have games that look incredible just because they aren't bound by DirectX.

    It's hard to describe but basically all the effects and textures on 360 look similar between games. They look "canned."

    Whereas playing something like Killzone blows me away. Yeah Gears looks nice. But it doesn't look OMG NICE!!!!

    The old standby still stands in 2012 :

    360 better multiplats

    PS3 better exclusives

    The question remains whether it will be "safe" to buy GTA V on anything but a 360, and I think the answer in 2012 is "yes."

    I think it's finally time to put the old 360 away.

    Right after Halo 4 :twisted:

    [/QUOTE] this is a giant load of crap, DirectX is fine, ps3 uses OpenGL... another standard. The reason why directx is bad at all is because of the way PC's work. Its not the api that makes it bad, its the driver model on windows, in order to make a call to it they have to go through kernel calls which also have to be serialized with other programs calling the same hardware. The kernel call takes a hit in performance and so does the synchronization to hold the GPU hardware. On 360 these layers just don't need to exist, there is huge speed up by not making DirectX kernel calls, dev's can call the api as often as they like without taking a hit in performance where is PC developers have been batching calls to get around this. The nature of the console allows the API to work direct to hardware unlike PC. The reason killzone blows you away is because the amount of post processing effects applied to the image, it has nothing to do with the way the GPU is rendering the image but because its basically smeared by effects after its rendered.
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  • Level 32
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    Jul 1, 2012 9:56 am GMT

    I don't understand why some people believe they have "better" multiplats, I don't see why people really care either. Just becasue Lens of Truth or some other fanboy sites says something doesn't make it true.

    In my honest opinion, I think this whole thing is silly. If a multiplat is "better" on 360, I can't tell if it is or isn't. Same goes for when a PS3 multiplat is "better", I sure as hell can't tell, looks the same as the 360 version.

    This is how it is for (almost) all multiplats, I don't need stupid fanboy websites or fanboys on the internet to tell me otherwise. I don't see a difference and no one else does either and you know it. The whole "this system haz better multiplatz" is a huge joke.

    Only thing that makes a multiplat better in my book is if one version has extra content, why pay the same price and get less? You want the version that gives you the most for your money, pay the same price and get more. Or if one version isa Bayonetta type port, but those are very rare.

    Edited on Jul 1, 2012 9:58 am GMT

    I don't understand why some people believe they have "better" multiplats, I don't see why people really care either. Just becasue Lens of Truth or some other fanboy sites says something doesn't make it true.

    In my honest opinion, I think this whole thing is silly. If a multiplat is "better" on 360, I can't tell if it is or isn't. Same goes for when a PS3 multiplat is "better", I sure as hell can't tell, looks the same as the 360 version.

    This is how it is for (almost) all multiplats, I don't need stupid fanboy websites or fanboys on the internet to tell me otherwise. I don't see a difference and no one else does either and you know it. The whole "this system haz better multiplatz" is a huge joke.

    Only thing that makes a multiplat better in my book is if one version has extra content, why pay the same price and get less? You want the version that gives you the most for your money, pay the same price and get more. Or if one version isa Bayonetta type port, but those are very rare.

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  • Level 23
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    Jul 1, 2012 10:16 am GMT
    5NYP3R-OO7 wrote:
    Multiplats have always been better on the PS3.
    inb4 a$$hurt lems start feeding me their tears.

    Dumbest post of the day award goes to level 1 guy...
    [QUOTE="5NYP3R-OO7"]Multiplats have always been better on the PS3. inb4 a$$hurt lems start feeding me their tears.[/QUOTE] Dumbest post of the day award goes to level 1 guy...
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  • Level 2
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    Jul 1, 2012 10:18 am GMT

    When did this happen?

    When did this happen?

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    Jul 1, 2012 10:24 am GMT

    They're not.

    Next question please.

    _____________________________________________

    RAAAAAAAAAAAWWWR RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR like a dungeon dragon!

    They're not.

    Next question please.

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    Jul 1, 2012 10:27 am GMT
    ShadowMoses900 wrote:

    I don't understand why some people believe they have "better" multiplats, I don't see why people really care either. Just becasue Lens of Truth or some other fanboy sites says something doesn't make it true.

    In my honest opinion, I think this whole thing is silly. If a multiplat is "better" on 360, I can't tell if it is or isn't. Same goes for when a PS3 multiplat is "better", I sure as hell can't tell, looks the same as the 360 version.

    This is how it is for (almost) all multiplats, I don't need stupid fanboy websites or fanboys on the internet to tell me otherwise. I don't see a difference and no one else does either and you know it. The whole "this system haz better multiplatz" is a huge joke.

    Only thing that makes a multiplat better in my book is if one version has extra content, why pay the same price and get less? You want the version that gives you the most for your money, pay the same price and get more. Or if one version isa Bayonetta type port, but those are very rare.


    Although on the surface your post seems reasoned and well thought out ..it in fact is not...this is a typical reaction for sony apologists to negate the 360's advantage in multiplats to then turn around and claim vast superiority in exclusives...although you have not done so in this particular post , you're posting history speaks for itself
    [QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

    I don't understand why some people believe they have "better" multiplats, I don't see why people really care either. Just becasue Lens of Truth or some other fanboy sites says something doesn't make it true.

    In my honest opinion, I think this whole thing is silly. If a multiplat is "better" on 360, I can't tell if it is or isn't. Same goes for when a PS3 multiplat is "better", I sure as hell can't tell, looks the same as the 360 version.

    This is how it is for (almost) all multiplats, I don't need stupid fanboy websites or fanboys on the internet to tell me otherwise. I don't see a difference and no one else does either and you know it. The whole "this system haz better multiplatz" is a huge joke.

    Only thing that makes a multiplat better in my book is if one version has extra content, why pay the same price and get less? You want the version that gives you the most for your money, pay the same price and get more. Or if one version isa Bayonetta type port, but those are very rare.

    [/QUOTE] Although on the surface your post seems reasoned and well thought out ..it in fact is not...this is a typical reaction for sony apologists to negate the 360's advantage in multiplats to then turn around and claim vast superiority in exclusives...although you have not done so in this particular post , you're posting history speaks for itself
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    Jul 1, 2012 10:36 am GMT
    charizard1605 wrote:
    Because it only took the developers six years to learn all the tropes of the PS3 hardware.


    We'll get them next year. Obviously this is a sign that PS3 wil pass 360 next year.

    Also has anyone noticed that Gamespot has not updated in 5 days in a row?
    [QUOTE="charizard1605"]Because it only took the developers six years to learn all the tropes of the PS3 hardware.[/QUOTE] We'll get them next year. Obviously this is a sign that PS3 wil pass 360 next year. Also has anyone noticed that Gamespot has not updated in 5 days in a row?
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    Jul 1, 2012 10:55 am GMT
    5NYP3R-OO7 wrote:
    Multiplats have always been better on the PS3.
    inb4 a$$hurt lems start feeding me their tears.


    Thats why there are multiplats scored lower for PS3 because they are inferior. Good job alt idiot.
    [QUOTE="5NYP3R-OO7"]Multiplats have always been better on the PS3. inb4 a$$hurt lems start feeding me their tears.[/QUOTE] Thats why there are multiplats scored lower for PS3 because they are inferior. Good job alt idiot.
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    Battlefield 3 on PS3 is at least 2 or 3 generations ahead with next gen lighting, plus comes with exclusive DLC that 360 users have to wait for.
    DICE engine is far superior on PS3, so Medal of Honor: Warfighter will be more of the same - PS3 will be only playable console version.
    L.A. Noire = PS3 win with locked framereate and next gen graphics plus exclusive content, 360 is last gen game with no content.
    Arkham City + Arkham Asylum = PS3 far superior versions and exclusive contents.
    Portal 2 is basically playing the PC versions with ultra max settings and steamworks integration, 360 version might as well be PS2 Half Life.
    Vanquish PS3 version makes the 360 version look like gamecube
    Final Fantasy = PS3 has full HD scenes which makes it a stunning experience, 360 has compressed SD to fit on a DVD LOLOLOL
    Shadows of the Damned yet another PS3 game that wins in all areas.
    Castlevania Lord of Shadow is at least playable on PS3, not even playable on 360.
    Tiger Woods 13 works great with far superior Move support, it's like being on the PGA tour, Kinect is like playing special olympics golf.
    Dragon's Dogma = PS3 best version.
    Assassin's Creed comes with exclusive content = PS3 is only way to play
    Far Cry 3 exclusive content and surely PS3 will be far superior version.


    PS3 domination will continue.
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    Battlefield 3 on PS3 is at least 2 or 3 generations ahead with next gen lighting, plus comes with exclusive DLC that 360 users have to wait for. DICE engine is far superior on PS3, so Medal of Honor: Warfighter will be more of the same - PS3 will be only playable console version. L.A. Noire = PS3 win with locked framereate and next gen graphics plus exclusive content, 360 is last gen game with no content. Arkham City + Arkham Asylum = PS3 far superior versions and exclusive contents. Portal 2 is basically playing the PC versions with ultra max settings and steamworks integration, 360 version might as well be PS2 Half Life. Vanquish PS3 version makes the 360 version look like gamecube Final Fantasy = PS3 has full HD scenes which makes it a stunning experience, 360 has compressed SD to fit on a DVD LOLOLOL Shadows of the Damned yet another PS3 game that wins in all areas. Castlevania Lord of Shadow is at least playable on PS3, not even playable on 360. Tiger Woods 13 works great with far superior Move support, it's like being on the PGA tour, Kinect is like playing special olympics golf. Dragon's Dogma = PS3 best version. Assassin's Creed comes with exclusive content = PS3 is only way to play Far Cry 3 exclusive content and surely PS3 will be far superior version. PS3 domination will continue.
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