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EVERY main series FF is considered a classic at some point in time.

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LMAO not even close.

Ever heard anyone mention how good FF games were before FF6? Thought so ;)

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Wut? :?

I,IV, and V were highly acclaimed in their time and in retrospect. III was kind of average. Only stinker in the bunch was II.

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EVERY main series FF is considered a classic at some point in time.

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LMAO not even close.

Ever heard anyone mention how good FF games were before FF6? Thought so ;)

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From what I've seen it seems 1, 4, 6, 7, 9 and 10 are regarded as the classics... maybe 5, but that's stretching it. People usually don't even acknowledge the existence of 2 and 3, 8 is still widely regarded as a bastard in the series, a lot of fans refuse to count an MMO and as much as I enjoyed 12 it tends to get ignored.

I really don't see XIII ever being regarded as a classic. Most of the FFs that do have that recognition got it instantly.

And before someone bashes this post, do realize I'm not speaking from personal preference at all, just observation.

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Good post. All I can add is that if V would be considered as a "borderline" great entry, then XIII can make a fair argument as well, considering they run neck and neck in aggregate review scores (using V's remake, since it wasn't widely reviewed by non Japanese publications initially) and XIII trounced it in sales.

FFX always entertains me with the praise it receives. It's easily the most similar to XIII in the series, but no one flips out about its linear design. Perhaps it's because X was played when many here were just getting introduced to gaming. And (IMVHO) I'll take Vanille over Wakka every time.:P

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IMO X had a better plot , a better combat systme , better leveling up system, better side missions and the world of spira felt like a " world" FFXIII felt way to static you interacted with no one the world was devoid of any character or soul. FFXIII was just passionless for me anyway.

I do think FFXIII gets a bit to much hate but X had alot more going for it that negated the linear structure and eventually you could go back to all the places you had visited with the airship

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Yeah, subjectivity reigns supreme on most of these. While you'd give all those categories to X, they get split up by me.

Plot = X

Combat = XIII (by a landslide!!!)

Levelling system = Tie (and more similar than different. X might get a slight edge in that it's sphere grid is the basis of the crystarium, if you had to have a winner)

Side missions = X (though Blitzball Stank!!!!)

World = ... I wanna give it to XIII simply because of how beautiful and varied the worlds were, but honestly I haven't played X in long enough to compare the two fairly. Something I should really remedy, but I never felt an urge to replay X after my run. Perhaps the upcoming HD remake will prod me into action!

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[QUOTE="santoron"]Good post. All I can add is that if V would be considered as a "borderline" great entry, then XIII can make a fair argument as well, considering they run neck and neck in aggregate review scores (using V's remake, since it wasn't widely reviewed by non Japanese publications initially) and XIII trounced it in sales. FFX always entertains me with the praise it receives. It's easily the most similar to XIII in the series, but no one flips out about its linear design. Perhaps it's because X was played when many here were just getting introduced to gaming.

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That could be it. It would be a very impressive game to new comers and it was impressive in general as an early PS2 title. I initially disliked X, but it grew on me after a while. I agree that its the most similar to XIII in layout, but it had just enough variation in content and a bit more freedom in general to keep the naysayers at bay.

That said I do remember thinking it was a bit linear. I kept wondering "when do I get an airship?"... "when will I see the world map?":lol:

I got over it though.

I suppose XIII could get classic status. Its tough to predict those things sometimes. When Wind Waker came out I NEVER thought it would receive the praise it does today.

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Awesome point about Wind Waker.

It's only hearsay by me, but I swear pre XIII, X was one of the top three FFs in the opinions of the GS community. It was only after XIII was out, and the haters kept getting hit on the head that X and XIII were so similar that we started seeing people try to distance themselves from the game. I think the HD version is going to be... illuminating on this matter.:lol:

I don't personally put XIII at the top end of the main series. More like in the middle... right around X and above XII. It wasn't what I expected, but it entertained me better than any main series title since IX (Since we aren't allowed to speak of XI:oops: )