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'Dead or Alive fans demanded larger breasts' says DoA5 director

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    Big Smoke
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    Sep 27, 2012 3:44 pm GMT

    http://www.gamesradar.com/dead-or-alive-director-fans-demanded-larger-breasts/

    Tecmo and Team Ninja realized they crossed the line a little bit concerning the sexualization of female fighters in their Dead or Alive series. This is why they decided to reduce the amount of boobage in the upcoming DoA5, a trend already visible in the demo included with Ninja Gaiden 3... except fans revolted against the decision; game director Shimbori is quoted saying:

    "We actually got a lot of feedback from people who were playing the demo, saying, 'We want bigger breasts. Make the characters more like that.' That was kind of surprising."

    Reverse gears, Team Ninja and crank up the cleavage slider, becausethat's it, let's just stop pretending people play this series for the gameplay or the fighting technique: fans flat out screamed they are in for the boobs and they expect the sexiness level to increase with every iteration of the game.

    Of course there will be some exceptions to this rule, but when a developer feels the need to make a U-turn based on player feedback it means an overwhelming majority of them agreed on the point.



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    http://www.gamesradar.com/dead-or-alive-director-fans-demanded-larger-breasts/

    Tecmo and Team Ninja realized they crossed the line a little bit concerning the sexualization of female fighters in their Dead or Alive series. This is why they decided to reduce the amount of boobage in the upcoming DoA5, a trend already visible in the demo included with Ninja Gaiden 3... except fans revolted against the decision; game director Shimbori is quoted saying:

    "We actually got a lot of feedback from people who were playing the demo, saying, 'We want bigger breasts. Make the characters more like that.' That was kind of surprising."

    Reverse gears, Team Ninja and crank up the cleavage slider, becausethat's it, let's just stop pretending people play this series for the gameplay or the fighting technique: fans flat out screamed they are in for the boobs and they expect the sexiness level to increase with every iteration of the game.

    Of course there will be some exceptions to this rule, but when a developer feels the need to make a U-turn based on player feedback it means an overwhelming majority of them agreed on the point.

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    Those fans... are only the japanese, right?

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  • Level 46
    Mutoid Man
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    Sep 27, 2012 4:16 pm GMT
    Man this is just beyond pathetic
    It's a good fighting game,let's not.make it out to be a game for pervs Good for them on the tone down

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    Man this is just beyond pathetic It's a good fighting game,let's not.make it out to be a game for pervs Good for them on the tone down
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    Sep 27, 2012 4:19 pm GMT

    lol so is this a fighting game or boobs game ?

    lol so is this a fighting game or boobs game ? :lol:

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    Sep 27, 2012 4:24 pm GMT

    Screw fighting each other, I just wanna stare at jiggle physics

    Screw fighting each other, I just wanna stare at jiggle physics:x

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    Sep 27, 2012 4:26 pm GMT
    So is the series a fighting series anymore or a pervert's fantasy? I don't think I ever recall asking for bigger breasts in the series, character creation and improved single player aye, but not breasts so big that they could be classified as lethal weapons.

    It comes across as a flimsy excuse from the developers to code breasts physics one handed again.

    "There is more to a person than the body alone, many tend to refuse to see that" - Reina Beaumont

    I'm female, please stop regarding me as male, I find that quite insulting and offensive, thank you.

    So is the series a fighting series anymore or a pervert's fantasy? I don't think I ever recall asking for bigger breasts in the series, character creation and improved single player aye, but not breasts so big that they could be classified as lethal weapons. It comes across as a flimsy excuse from the developers to code breasts physics one handed again.
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    Sep 27, 2012 4:36 pm GMT

    When is DOA Xtreme 3 coming out?

    When is DOA Xtreme 3 coming out?

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    Sep 27, 2012 4:37 pm GMT
    almasdeathchild wrote:
    Man this is just beyond pathetic
    It's a good fighting game,let's not.make it out to be a game for pervs Good for them on the tone down

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    [QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]Man this is just beyond pathetic It's a good fighting game,let's not.make it out to be a game for pervs Good for them on the tone down[/QUOTE] agreed
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    Sep 27, 2012 4:39 pm GMT
    The game doesn't need boobs to be good.
    The gameplay is great for a fighting game.

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    The game doesn't need boobs to be good. The gameplay is great for a fighting game.
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    Sep 27, 2012 5:48 pm GMT

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

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    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

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    Sep 27, 2012 6:00 pm GMT
    I play the Dead or Alive fighting games because they are excellent games. So I don't insist on big boobs however I'm not going to object to them either.

    I play the Dead or Alive fighting games because they are excellent games. So I don't insist on big boobs however I'm not going to object to them either. :P
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    Sep 28, 2012 2:11 am GMT

    Vari3ty wrote:

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

    This is the reason I've never taken DoA seriously. A game like Mortal Kombat, sure, has the scantily clad women but it butchers them up into pieces rather than make them play volleyball.

    [QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

    [/QUOTE]

    This is the reason I've never taken DoA seriously. A game like Mortal Kombat, sure, has the scantily clad women but it butchers them up into pieces rather than make them play volleyball.

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    Sep 28, 2012 2:18 am GMT
    Vari3ty wrote:

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.


    This is part of the reason I can't take Japan seriously



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    [QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

    [/QUOTE] This is part of the reason I can't take [i]Japan[/i] seriously
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    Sep 28, 2012 2:45 am GMT

    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    Vari3ty wrote:

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

    This is the reason I've never taken DoA seriously. A game like Mortal Kombat, sure, has the scantily clad women but it butchers them up into pieces rather than make them play volleyball.

    What are you into? I kid .

    I gave up DOA after 3 (it was the closest thing to VF on non-Sega platforms back when Sega had platforms), but I'm pretty sure the volleyball thing is a seperate game from the main fighters.

    I don't have a ton of respect for DOA as a series, but I while I don't doubt there are weirdos out there, I doubt they are a big chunk of the audience. Games which are based solely or heavily on sex appeal tend to sell poorly just because there are easier and cheaper ways for adolescents to see breasts than paying $60 for a game (hell, with the internet avoiding porn is the challenge whereas in my day we had to hunt for it!).

    In DOA females are different flavors of gorgeous but that is no different than 99% of games.

    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    [QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

    [/QUOTE]

    This is the reason I've never taken DoA seriously. A game like Mortal Kombat, sure, has the scantily clad women but it butchers them up into pieces rather than make them play volleyball.

    [/QUOTE]

    :shock: What are you into? I kid :P.

    I gave up DOA after 3 (it was the closest thing to VF on non-Sega platforms back when Sega had platforms), but I'm pretty sure the volleyball thing is a seperate game from the main fighters.

    I don't have a ton of respect for DOA as a series, but I while I don't doubt there are weirdos out there, I doubt they are a big chunk of the audience. Games which are based solely or heavily on sex appeal tend to sell poorly just because there are easier and cheaper ways for adolescents to see breasts than paying $60 for a game (hell, with the internet avoiding porn is the challenge whereas in my day we had to hunt for it!).

    In DOA females are different flavors of gorgeous but that is no different than 99% of games.

  • Level 41
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    Sep 28, 2012 3:33 am GMT

    I loved them all, might get 5 when it's cheap as too many games and not enough money, but mostly for me when 2 was released on the dream casts it was always about the ease but complexity of the fighting system and the interactive arenas that I enjoyed.

    But yeah seeing as this has to please the Japanese there will always be that element doesn't really bother me apart from it detracts from what was once a great fighting series.

    I loved them all, might get 5 when it's cheap as too many games and not enough money, but mostly for me when 2 was released on the dream casts it was always about the ease but complexity of the fighting system and the interactive arenas that I enjoyed.

    But yeah seeing as this has to please the Japanese there will always be that element doesn't really bother me apart from it detracts from what was once a great fighting series.

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    Sep 28, 2012 7:07 am GMT

    I very much enjoy Dead or Alive for the action it presents. But I won't lie, part of the allure of the series for me are the attractive females. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

    About the breasts issue, eh, I can kind of see both sides of the issue. On one hand, the boobies aren't what make the game fun. Good on the developers for trying to tone it down. On the other, the fan complaints is somewhat understandable. Sexy ladies is sort of the gimmick for DOA, like fatalities for Mortal Kombat. MKvsDC was a good game, but it lacked MK's signature fatalities (opting for nerfed versions) and fans outraged. It'd probably be like if Street Fighter ditched it's Shoto characters, or if Tekken suddenly had gravity. >_>

    I very much enjoy Dead or Alive for the action it presents. But I won't lie, part of the allure of the series for me are the attractive females. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

    About the breasts issue, eh, I can kind of see both sides of the issue. On one hand, the boobies aren't what make the game fun. Good on the developers for trying to tone it down. On the other, the fan complaints is somewhat understandable. Sexy ladies is sort of the gimmick for DOA, like fatalities for Mortal Kombat. MKvsDC was a good game, but it lacked MK's signature fatalities (opting for nerfed versions) and fans outraged. It'd probably be like if Street Fighter ditched it's Shoto characters, or if Tekken suddenly had gravity. >_>

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    Sep 28, 2012 7:50 am GMT

    are pixelated fun bags that big of a deal?

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    Sep 28, 2012 8:09 am GMT
    yellosnolvr wrote:

    are pixelated fun bags that big of a deal?


    Of course not, but the idea here is that when fans houl in dismay at the hint of less boobs in their game, I'm entitled to point and laugh at them



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    [QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]

    are pixelated fun bags that big of a deal?

    [/QUOTE] Of course not, but the idea here is that when fans houl in dismay at the hint of less boobs in their game, I'm entitled to point and laugh at them
  • Level 31
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    Sep 28, 2012 9:32 am GMT

    That's pretty sad, really. A lot of pathetic, lonely people out there to care about something like this. I do not ever wish to meet a person who is so immature to buy a game based on the size of the women's breasts, or actually complain that they would need to be bigger. DoA is a good fighting game that only seems to get attention for it's ridiculous portrayal of women.


    That's pretty sad, really. A lot of pathetic, lonely people out there to care about something like this. I do not ever wish to meet a person who is so immature to buy a game based on the size of the women's breasts, or actually complain that they would need to be bigger. DoA is a good fighting game that only seems to get attention for it's ridiculous portrayal of women.

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    Sep 28, 2012 9:34 am GMT

    Black_Knight_00 wrote:
    Vari3ty wrote:

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

    This is part of the reason I can't take Japan seriously

    Bingo. Their obsession is very bizarre...


    [QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

    This is part of the reason I can't take fighting games seriously.

    [/QUOTE] This is part of the reason I can't take [i]Japan[/i] seriously[/QUOTE]

    Bingo. Their obsession is very bizarre...

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