[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]DOA is not predicated on breasts.[/QUOTE] Indeed it isn't, but its marketing revolves around them[/QUOTE]

I'm not aware of any such marketing as it pertains to DOA5. I do recall a commercial for one of the earlier games with some guys getting all worked up at the Ninja ladies kicking high but that was clearly toungue in cheek.

[QUOTE="capaho"]

Cool your jets a bit. You've been known to hurl a few insults yourself.

I don't like bigotry, either, so I'm no more fond of blanket criticisms of Japanese culture than you are, but there are fundamental differences that can't be ignored, either. Japanese culture is extremely sexist and ethnocentric, among other things, and it influences the media products that are developed there. I've gotten the impression that fans of games like this don't have a lot of empathy for people on the short end of human rights issues, but Japan certainly deserves a lot of criticism for its collective lack of compassion in that regard.

You may not be able to see it yourself, but images like the ones featured in this game do not represent a drooling, knuckle-dragging good time to all of us.

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I don't need to cool my jets.

I'd rather just curb stomp your vapid arguments into the ground.

The criticisms you levy against Japan could rightly and logically be levied against just about any other nation on this planet.

That cute little buzzword, ethnocentric, is the defining principle of most nations and their governments and manifests in various ways, from imperialistic tendencies to smaller nations playing passive-aggressive political games or funding terrorism.

So that particular rationale is too broad and vague to be of any viable use as justification for your blatant racism.

Also, ethnocentricity has nothing to do with gender inequality.

Japan does have a pronounced history of institutionalized gender inequality but again, that is hardly a unique cultural distinction. The oppression of females in various Middle Eastern nations is not merely predicated on social norms but is often clearly mandated and enforceable. And let us not forget that Europe and the U.S. also enjoy a protracted history of inequality; American women couldn't even vote until 1920.

So again, that criticism hardly makes Japan unique.

As to the notion that people who enjoy these types of games are somehow insensitive to issues of social inequality, even by your ridiculous logic such an assertion is a stretch. I've spent years working with people on the lowest ends of the social spectrum even while pseudo-intellectuals like you thump on your chest in an effort to prove your enlightened superiority. (When you're not slandering an entire race of people that is)

Unlike you and many others in this thread, I've played the game because I'm a genre enthusiast and because DOA5 is a legitimately great game. It's also not all that provocative; certainly no worse than any number of other games on the market.

What you wrote about Japanese culture was bigoted garbage and rather than admit the fallacy of your comments or simply let the issue die you decided to step up to me and explain that not only was your ignorant slander justified but also that I'm the real bigot because I play the game.

Please keep challenging me Capho because frankly, I could bust up your pitiful arguments indefinitely.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="NaturalDisplay"]

Wow, the amount of hate towards sexualisation in this thread is astonishing. What is wrong with a little booby-looking once in a while?

[/QUOTE] Nothing per se, but sexualisation caters to the lowest, most basic human instincts and too much of it is an insult to your intelligence. That said, one look at your gamercard and see you will never agree with me on this point[/QUOTE]

That seems like an unnecessary cheap shot coming from somebody who should know better.

The reality, as I've stated before, is that DOA5 is no worse than any number of other games. I do think the developers were foolish to cater to that particular request but in all honestly the game moves at such a blistering pace that it isn't very noticeable.

And the ladies aren't dressed any more provocatively than the women of Tekken, SF, SC, etc.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

It wasn't meant as an insult, I simply said that his gamercard implies he thinks differently, which is legitimate. Up to him now to tell me otherwise. Also, I don't limit my reasoning to DoA, it goes without saying that sex is a cheap selling point no matter the game/media in general that abuses it.

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DOA5's selling point is the fighting engine, which is vastly improved.

And personally I'm not convinced that overt sexual content is an effective business strategy as it pertains to an already somewhat niche genre. I think with the DOA Volleyball games you could make that assertion but with a dedicated fighter, not so much.

You seem to be going very far out of your way to dismiss this game based on this one interview from the developer.

Have you played the game?

Because I get the sense that most of the detractors have not.

[QUOTE="capaho"]

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] Gram's been arguing that the mechanics of the game, and specifically not the imagery, is what draws fans of the series. [/QUOTE]

The mechanics are not relevant to the specific implications of the imagery.

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And what are the specific implications of the imagery in this game you clearly haven't played?

Please explain, in detail, what these images imply and how they contribute harmfully to the social segregation and inequality of women.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

It wasn't meant as an insult, I simply said that his gamercard implies he thinks differently, which is legitimate. Up to him now to tell me otherwise. Also, I don't limit my reasoning to DoA, it goes without saying that sex is a cheap selling point no matter the game/media in general that abuses it.

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DOA5's selling point is the fighting engine, which is vastly improved.

And personally I'm not convinced that overt sexual content is an effective business strategy as it pertains to an already somewhat niche genre. I think with the DOA Volleyball games you could make that assertion but with a dedicated fighter, not so much.

You seem to be going very far out of your way to dismiss this game based on this one interview from the developer.

Have you played the game?

Because I get the sense that most of the detractors have not.

[/QUOTE] I have played 1, 2 and 4, I have no interest in 5. That aside, don't get stuck on DoA, I'm making a more general statement here[/QUOTE]

We don't have to focus on DOA5 at all.

By your rationale I can assume you find violence equally objectionable as it too caters to a more base and primal human fascination with the taboo of death, dismemberment, etc.

It certainly occupies no higher intellectual strata than sexuality.

Yet you don't seem at all repelled by games featuring copious violence, which could be argued as hypocritical or, at the very least, logically inconsistent.

That isn't an insult but rather an observation because you seem offended by the paltry titillations present in DOA5 yet I don't see you reeling from the overtly violent images present in many of the games you play and have subsequently ranked.

It all seems a tad...selective.