[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] [QUOTE="capaho"] Two things here... First, you're implying that I lack the understanding necessary to discern your meaning(even as you're clearly attempting to revise what you meant in the first place). That's condescending, at least, and could be downright insulting, if someone were of a mind to take offense. Second, you were replying to a comment of mine. At the end of your reply, you bemoaned (you claim) general cluelessness. On one hand, you could honestly be despairing the cluelessness of several people in this thread. On the other hand you could be backpedaling to cover over what actually was you calling me specifically clueless. In one case, you're insulting several people in the thread(tactlessness can be terribly insulting, you know(and I know a thing or two about tact. Talk to Omega Prime- he'll tell you all about it)). In the other case, you're just insulting the one person. "Clueless" is an insult. If you insult someone and laugh, that's also condescending. And just for reference: [QUOTE="capaho"]

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People objectify women. Images don't. You might have said such images promote the objectification of women, but as stated, your assertion is false. And again, it is down down to the people playing the game to decide whether a woman is a person with feelings or something to be masticated, consumed, and/or lived in. And couldn't the nature of the game(I.E. beating the bejesus out of those women-and in my case with a male character) be as objectionable as their cup size or their attire?

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My assertion is false? I was referring to an article in the Atlantic Monthly, it wasn't my assertion.

The images are intended to cash in on people who objectify women.

So many clueless, so little time.

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Checkmate.

Again.

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] [QUOTE="capaho"][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

You have an unfortuante tendency to embellish by comments. You either misunderstand, over-interpret or read too much into them.

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Oh yes, your belligerent demeanor is merely everyone else's inability to understand your nuanced and clever writing.

And by "embellishing your comments" do you mean quote them verbatim?

Because that is precisely what he did.

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"] The problem is you are an intellectual glass jaw...[/QUOTE]:D I want to buy the rights to that statement. [/QUOTE]

Consider it a gift. ;)

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]The game baths in its soft-porn image, and that's one of the major reasons DOA even has notoriety. Fair enough the audience would want more of it. It's silly pandering, but this this an audience the developers is directly catering for anyway. [QUOTE="capaho"]

There isn't much of intellectual or social significance to waste time on.

[/QUOTE] Considering it's (all the sex, animie, manga, hentai, games, fetishes) are a very identifiable part of a modern Japanese sub culture, there's been plenty of cultural commentary and papers written about it.[/QUOTE]

By bathing in its soft-porn image, do you mean it has females dressed in outfits not dissimilar from other games in the genre?

Because by your metric, Tekken, Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, etc. are all indulging in such soft-porn aesthetics.

Now to be completely fair DOA has a storied history, including those embarrassing volley ball asides, but the actual fighting games, especially this latest entry, are no more gratuitous in their depiction of sexualized women than any other fighter.

Or any other number of games for that matter.

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I remember the tone of your comments in the Sleeping Dogs discussion as well.

I haven't been arguing because it is never my intention to pursuade or to be pursuaded, I'm interested in civil discussion. I find the kind of argument that commonly erupts here to be rather distasteful. I participate in a discussion to the extent that it piques my interest and I comment on the topic at hand as I see it. When I reply, the comments that are directed at me influence the nature of my reply. As I have already stated, it is never my intention to insult or offend, but provocative comments will likely elicit provocative replies all the way around.

Either some of you take me too seriously, take yourselves too seriously, or think I take these discussions too seriously. We are talking about games, after all. Perhaps everyone needs to lighten up a bit.

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You literally come off like a person who doesn't even fully grasp what they've written with their own hand.

That isn't an insult but a glaringly obvious observation.

To state that you haven't been arguing is lunacy; you might as well have claimed to not have drawn oxygen into your lungs during the last 24 hours.

As a point of fact you have been arguing incessantly and very selectively. You imbue your words with hostility and derision, then claim innocence when called out for these behaviors.

As Meta stated, you try and string together a copious amount of intellectual-sounding sentences but your arguments falter when you are pressed to defend them. You are a classic passive-aggressive whether you care to admit it or not and you have a nasty habit of blaming others when your logic fails.

And no, we don't need to lighten up. It's all you, every time.

You are one of the people who decided to slander an entire culture based on a VIDEOGAME. You are the one who pushed the notion that my playing the game suggested I lack empathy for those people who do not enjoy a full measure of equity. You are the one who tossed around cheap armchair psychobabble even while dodging the many specific points I made in my rebuttals.

It's not us. It's you.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]Because by your metric, Tekken, Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, etc. are all indulging in such soft-porn aesthetics.[/QUOTE] I agree on the games you mentioned, except one: aside from Cammy's swimsuit I can't think of a single sexualized character in Street Fighter. Would you please make some examples?[/QUOTE]

Chun Lis classic outfit is pretty skimpy, especially as it pertains to length.

Juris outfit is also very revealing and Sakura is basically prototypical Japanese School Girl Fetish fodder.

Elena from SFIII is sexualized as well.