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What's so special about Valve's games?

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  • Level 40
    Abobo
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    Oct 8, 2012 9:29 pm GMT

    I like TF2 a lot, have over 400 hours played. Portal 2 was worth playing once and that's it, haven't done the co op yet. Half Life was amazing considering when it came out and is still worth playing today. It's hard to say that about many fps games that old. Half Life 2 is average. I haven't played enough of the L4D games to make a good opinion of them, but they seem fun but not amazing.

    I think they're overhyped too, but with the way they treat their customers, that's kind of expected.

    I like TF2 a lot, have over 400 hours played. Portal 2 was worth playing once and that's it, haven't done the co op yet. Half Life was amazing considering when it came out and is still worth playing today. It's hard to say that about many fps games that old. Half Life 2 is average. I haven't played enough of the L4D games to make a good opinion of them, but they seem fun but not amazing.

    I think they're overhyped too, but with the way they treat their customers, that's kind of expected.

  • Level 41
    Thunder Force
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    Oct 8, 2012 9:32 pm GMT

    I don't get it either.

    Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.

    It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.

    Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.

    Angel Beats

    I don't get it either.

    Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.

    It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.

    Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.

  • Level 41
    Thunder Force
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    Oct 8, 2012 9:36 pm GMT

    GeoffZak wrote:

    I don't get it either.

    Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.

    It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.

    Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.

    How is it lazy to continue using the same engine? They continue to support it and make it better. At this point, I'd say their next game needs a new engine, but up to CS:GO it still looks decent.

    And Team Fortress 2 is spectacular.

    [QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

    I don't get it either.

    Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.

    It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.

    Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.

    [/QUOTE]

    How is it lazy to continue using the same engine? They continue to support it and make it better. At this point, I'd say their next game needs a new engine, but up to CS:GO it still looks decent.

    And Team Fortress 2 is spectacular.

  • Level 43
    Sword of Sodan
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    Oct 8, 2012 10:16 pm GMT

    OB-47 wrote:

    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    jg4xchamp wrote:

    1. Presentation
    2. Atmosphere
    3. Craftsmenship

    I'm not the biggest fan of Half Life 2, but you would be hard pressed to find a FPS more varied and better paced than Half Life 2. It's not exactly a great action game, because all of its variety is tied to combat mechanics/systems that aren't really that satisfying. But it's a damn good game considering everything else in the make up of that game. Their story telling in gaming is honestly 2nd to none amongst all the action game devs, and the rest of their games are clever and unique experiences that really don't have a counterpart.

    Left 4 Dead(well I guess Killing FLoor, but they do things differently enough) and Portal don't exactly have a host of immitators that have done what they do better.

    Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.

    Sorry, but I can't get excited about a shooter with poor gunplay. It's just never gonna happen. And aside from Half-Life, all of Valve's IPs were either made by someone else or just aren't that special. With the exception of Portal.

    Edited on Oct 8, 2012 10:19 pm GMT

    [QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    [QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

    1. Presentation
    2. Atmosphere
    3. Craftsmenship

    I'm not the biggest fan of Half Life 2, but you would be hard pressed to find a FPS more varied and better paced than Half Life 2. It's not exactly a great action game, because all of its variety is tied to combat mechanics/systems that aren't really that satisfying. But it's a damn good game considering everything else in the make up of that game. Their story telling in gaming is honestly 2nd to none amongst all the action game devs, and the rest of their games are clever and unique experiences that really don't have a counterpart.

    Left 4 Dead(well I guess Killing FLoor, but they do things differently enough) and Portal don't exactly have a host of immitators that have done what they do better.

    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made

    [/QUOTE]

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    [/QUOTE]

    So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.

    Sorry, but I can't get excited about a shooter with poor gunplay. It's just never gonna happen. And aside from Half-Life, all of Valve's IPs were either made by someone else or just aren't that special. With the exception of Portal.

  • Level 41
    Thunder Force
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    Oct 8, 2012 10:19 pm GMT

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made

    [/QUOTE]

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    [/QUOTE] So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.[/QUOTE]

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P

  • Level 43
    Sword of Sodan
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    Oct 8, 2012 10:19 pm GMT
    jg4xchamp wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    Aka poor man's Champ.


    Aw, I love you, too.
    [QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made

    [/QUOTE]

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    [/QUOTE] Aka poor man's Champ. [/QUOTE] Aw, I love you, too.
  • Level 43
    Sword of Sodan
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    Oct 8, 2012 10:20 pm GMT
    OB-47 wrote:

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide



    There is? Since when?
    [QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    [/QUOTE] So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.[/QUOTE]

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P

    [/QUOTE] There is? Since when?
  • Level 27
    Sheng Long
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    Oct 8, 2012 10:22 pm GMT

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    jg4xchamp wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    Aka poor man's Champ.
    Aw, I love you, too.

    Both of you are lame

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.

    [/QUOTE] Aka poor man's Champ. [/QUOTE] Aw, I love you, too.[/QUOTE]

    Both of you are lame:oops:

  • Level 41
    Thunder Force
    Posts: 10943
    Oct 8, 2012 10:24 pm GMT

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide

    There is? Since when?

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"] So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.[/QUOTE]

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P

    [/QUOTE] There is? Since when? [/QUOTE]

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.

  • Level 43
    Sword of Sodan
    Posts: 31599
    Oct 8, 2012 10:26 pm GMT
    OB-47 wrote:

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide

    There is? Since when?

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.





    Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?
    [QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    It's what happens when you're the king of SW

    There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P

    [/QUOTE] There is? Since when? [/QUOTE]

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.

    [/QUOTE] :lol: Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?
  • Level 63
    Big Smoke
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    Oct 8, 2012 10:28 pm GMT

    They're OK. Fun and all, but I don't see the "best game ever" appeal that others do.

    Heirren wrote:
    Kojima puts 99% of modern cinema to shame.

    Some opinions are wrong. This is one of them.

    They're OK. Fun and all, but I don't see the "best game ever" appeal that others do.

  • Level 41
    Thunder Force
    Posts: 10943
    Oct 8, 2012 10:29 pm GMT

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    There is? Since when?

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.

    Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?

    I'll try and get the URL, but apparently I'll be 'silenced' if I attempt to. What a loaasdfjuiohfuhasdjiiahdsahdua

    ***SPOILER***

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"] There is? Since when? [/QUOTE]

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.

    [/QUOTE] :lol: Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?[/QUOTE]

    I'll try and get the URL, but apparently I'll be 'silenced' if I attempt to. What a loaasdfjuiohfuhasdjiiahdsahdua

    [spoiler] :lol: Just joking. It doesn't exist. Sorry if I mislead you [/spoiler]

  • Level 43
    Sword of Sodan
    Posts: 31599
    Oct 8, 2012 10:30 pm GMT
    OB-47 wrote:

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    OB-47 wrote:

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.

    Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?

    I'll try and get the URL, but apparently I'll be 'silenced' if I attempt to. What a loaasdfjuiohfuhasdjiiahdsahdua

    ***SPOILER***



    I figured it was a joke. But I got a good chuckle out of it.

    'Course you never know, with the crazies that run around on GameSpot.
    [QUOTE="OB-47"]

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

    Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.

    [/QUOTE] :lol: Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?[/QUOTE]

    I'll try and get the URL, but apparently I'll be 'silenced' if I attempt to. What a loaasdfjuiohfuhasdjiiahdsahdua

    [spoiler] :lol: Just joking. It doesn't exist. Sorry if I mislead you [/spoiler]

    [/QUOTE] I figured it was a joke. But I got a good chuckle out of it. 'Course you never know, with the crazies that run around on GameSpot.
  • Level 41
    Thunder Force
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    Oct 8, 2012 10:47 pm GMT

    GeoffZak wrote:

    I don't get it either.

    Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.

    It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.

    Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.

    I'm guessing you won't apply this logic toward the tales series huh? Those look like the same game reskinned and yet I'm sure you wouldn't consider namco lazy.

    [QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

    I don't get it either.

    Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.

    It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.

    Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.

    [/QUOTE]

    I'm guessing you won't apply this logic toward the tales series huh? Those look like the same game reskinned and yet I'm sure you wouldn't consider namco lazy.

  • Level 59
    Virtual Hustler
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    Oct 9, 2012 12:39 am GMT
    Raymundo_Manuel wrote:

    DarkLink77 wrote:
    jg4xchamp wrote:
    Aka poor man's Champ.
    Aw, I love you, too.

    Both of you are lame


    Who invited your awfulness to this discussion?
    [QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

    [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Aka poor man's Champ. [/QUOTE] Aw, I love you, too.[/QUOTE]

    Both of you are lame:oops:

    [/QUOTE] Who invited your awfulness to this discussion?
  • Level 18
    Flicky
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    Oct 9, 2012 12:50 am GMT

    TF2 is so fun you guys.

    It's a shame so many of you are missing out on the awesomeness. ;D

    TF2 is so fun you guys.

    It's a shame so many of you are missing out on the awesomeness. ;D

  • Level 36
    Radical Ninja
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    Oct 9, 2012 12:55 am GMT
    IN all honesty, nothing. They're all overrated.

    .

    IN all honesty, nothing. They're all overrated.
  • Level 58
    Death=Adder
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    Oct 9, 2012 1:02 am GMT

    They make fun and very polished games with great post-release support.

    Personally though I like them the most because they've mastered in-game storytelling in a way no other devs has.

    ...
    my blog: www,pcgamingfan.com (reasons why it's worth to be a pcgamer)

    They make fun and very polished games with great post-release support.

    Personally though I like them the most because they've mastered in-game storytelling in a way no other devs has.

  • Level 25
    Defias Brotherhood
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    Oct 9, 2012 1:03 am GMT
    PinkiePirate wrote:

    TF2 is so fun you guys.

    It's a shame so many of you are missing out on the awesomeness. ;D



    you like TF2?
    [QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

    TF2 is so fun you guys.

    It's a shame so many of you are missing out on the awesomeness. ;D

    [/QUOTE] you like TF2?
  • Level 37
    Heiankyo Alien
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    Oct 9, 2012 1:05 am GMT

    CS is the best and most balanced multiplayer FPS, it also has the best pro circuit.

    Half-Life was amazing as was HL2.

    The support the company gives is second to none.

    The steam service is great.

    asd

    CS is the best and most balanced multiplayer FPS, it also has the best pro circuit.

    Half-Life was amazing as was HL2.

    The support the company gives is second to none.

    The steam service is great.

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