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What's so special about Valve's games?
- Oct 8, 2012 9:29 pm GMT

I like TF2 a lot, have over 400 hours played. Portal 2 was worth playing once and that's it, haven't done the co op yet. Half Life was amazing considering when it came out and is still worth playing today. It's hard to say that about many fps games that old. Half Life 2 is average. I haven't played enough of the L4D games to make a good opinion of them, but they seem fun but not amazing.
I think they're overhyped too, but with the way they treat their customers, that's kind of expected.
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- Oct 8, 2012 9:32 pm GMT

I don't get it either.
Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.
It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.
Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.
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- Oct 8, 2012 9:36 pm GMT

[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
I don't get it either.
Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.
It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.
Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.
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How is it lazy to continue using the same engine? They continue to support it and make it better. At this point, I'd say their next game needs a new engine, but up to CS:GO it still looks decent.
And Team Fortress 2 is spectacular.
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- Oct 8, 2012 10:16 pm GMT
[QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]
- Presentation
- Atmosphere
- Craftsmenship
I'm not the biggest fan of Half Life 2, but you would be hard pressed to find a FPS more varied and better paced than Half Life 2. It's not exactly a great action game, because all of its variety is tied to combat mechanics/systems that aren't really that satisfying. But it's a damn good game considering everything else in the make up of that game. Their story telling in gaming is honestly 2nd to none amongst all the action game devs, and the rest of their games are clever and unique experiences that really don't have a counterpart.
Left 4 Dead(well I guess Killing FLoor, but they do things differently enough) and Portal don't exactly have a host of immitators that have done what they do better.[/QUOTE]
Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made
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Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.
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So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.
Sorry, but I can't get excited about a shooter with poor gunplay. It's just never gonna happen. And aside from Half-Life, all of Valve's IPs were either made by someone else or just aren't that special. With the exception of Portal.
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- Oct 8, 2012 10:19 pm GMT

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made
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Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.
[/QUOTE] So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.[/QUOTE]
It's what happens when you're the king of SW
There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P
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- Oct 8, 2012 10:19 pm GMT[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
Yeah even if you're not a fan of the games. It's hard to deny that they're really well made
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Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.
[/QUOTE] Aka poor man's Champ. [/QUOTE] Aw, I love you, too.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Oct 8, 2012 10:20 pm GMT[QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.
[/QUOTE] So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.[/QUOTE]
It's what happens when you're the king of SW
There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P
[/QUOTE] There is? Since when?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Oct 8, 2012 10:22 pm GMT
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
Unless you're DarkLink77, the biggest anti-Valve fanboy out.
[/QUOTE] Aka poor man's Champ. [/QUOTE] Aw, I love you, too.[/QUOTE]
Both of you are lame:oops:
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- Oct 8, 2012 10:24 pm GMT

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] So nice to be talked about when I'm not here.[/QUOTE]
It's what happens when you're the king of SW
There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P
[/QUOTE] There is? Since when? [/QUOTE]
Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.
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- Oct 8, 2012 10:26 pm GMT[QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
It's what happens when you're the king of SW
There's even a union dedicated to your regicide :P
[/QUOTE] There is? Since when? [/QUOTE]
Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.
[/QUOTE] :lol: Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Oct 8, 2012 10:28 pm GMTHeirren wrote:Kojima puts 99% of modern cinema to shame.
Some opinions are wrong. This is one of them.
They're OK. Fun and all, but I don't see the "best game ever" appeal that others do.
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- Oct 8, 2012 10:29 pm GMT

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] There is? Since when? [/QUOTE]
Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.
[/QUOTE] :lol: Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?[/QUOTE]
I'll try and get the URL, but apparently I'll be 'silenced' if I attempt to. What a loaasdfjuiohfuhasdjiiahdsahdua
[spoiler] :lol: Just joking. It doesn't exist. Sorry if I mislead you [/spoiler]
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- Oct 8, 2012 10:30 pm GMT[QUOTE="OB-47"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="OB-47"]
Since your inception. You were a threat to the balance of SW.
[/QUOTE] :lol: Can I have a link to this place, if it exists?[/QUOTE]
I'll try and get the URL, but apparently I'll be 'silenced' if I attempt to. What a loaasdfjuiohfuhasdjiiahdsahdua
[spoiler] :lol: Just joking. It doesn't exist. Sorry if I mislead you [/spoiler]
[/QUOTE] I figured it was a joke. But I got a good chuckle out of it. 'Course you never know, with the crazies that run around on GameSpot.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Oct 8, 2012 10:47 pm GMT

[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]
I don't get it either.
Left 4 Dead, Portal and Team Fortress 2 are all good games. But that's all they are, just good. They're really not spectacular.
It is kinda obnoxious how lazy they are. All of their games are based on the same engine, the source engine, and it's so blatantly obvious. Technically, they're making all their money on Half Life 2 mods.
Valve is definitely up there as one of the most overrated game companies.
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I'm guessing you won't apply this logic toward the tales series huh? Those look like the same game reskinned and yet I'm sure you wouldn't consider namco lazy.
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- Oct 9, 2012 12:39 am GMT[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Aka poor man's Champ. [/QUOTE] Aw, I love you, too.[/QUOTE]
Both of you are lame:oops:
[/QUOTE] Who invited your awfulness to this discussion?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Oct 9, 2012 12:50 am GMT

TF2 is so fun you guys.
It's a shame so many of you are missing out on the awesomeness. ;D
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- IN all honesty, nothing. They're all overrated.
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- Oct 9, 2012 1:02 am GMT
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my blog: www,pcgamingfan.com (reasons why it's worth to be a pcgamer)
They make fun and very polished games with great post-release support.
Personally though I like them the most because they've mastered in-game storytelling in a way no other devs has.
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- Oct 9, 2012 1:03 am GMT
[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]TF2 is so fun you guys.
It's a shame so many of you are missing out on the awesomeness. ;D
[/QUOTE] you like TF2?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Oct 9, 2012 1:05 am GMT

CS is the best and most balanced multiplayer FPS, it also has the best pro circuit.
Half-Life was amazing as was HL2.
The support the company gives is second to none.
The steam service is great.
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