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Are dlc,s a way to make more money or to make a game better?

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  • Borrizee
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 2:46 am GMT
    I don't really like dlc's gives me the idea of unfinished games.
    I don't really like dlc's gives me the idea of unfinished games.
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  • Justforvisit
     
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    For the one company they're the one, for the other company they're the other.

    And for Minecraft, they're all free

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    For the one company they're the one, for the other company they're the other.

    And for Minecraft, they're all free

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  • Jackc8
     
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    It runs the gamut. Considering the way most kids will buy anything regardless of quality, the pendulum has swung in a very predictable direction; but there are exceptions.

    It runs the gamut. Considering the way most kids will buy anything regardless of quality, the pendulum has swung in a very predictable direction; but there are exceptions.

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  • Archangel3371
     
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    Both. You have to make money to stay in business after all.

    Both. You have to make money to stay in business after all.
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  • capaho
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 6:38 am GMT

    Borrizee wrote:
    I don't really like dlc's gives me the idea of unfinished games.

    I was originally hoping that DLC would be a way to extend the life of a game, but it appears to be just a way to sell you pieces of a game over an extended period of time. I don't think it's a coincidence that campaigns have gotten shorter as DLC has become more prevalent.

    [QUOTE="Borrizee"]I don't really like dlc's gives me the idea of unfinished games.[/QUOTE]

    I was originally hoping that DLC would be a way to extend the life of a game, but it appears to be just a way to sell you pieces of a game over an extended period of time. I don't think it's a coincidence that campaigns have gotten shorter as DLC has become more prevalent.

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  • Borrizee
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:02 am GMT
    capaho wrote:

    Borrizee wrote:
    I don't really like dlc's gives me the idea of unfinished games.

    I was originally hoping that DLC would be a way to extend the life of a game, but it appears to be just a way to sell you pieces of a game over an extended period of time. I don't think it's a coincidence that campaigns have gotten shorter as DLC has become more prevalent.


    Same here but want to hear wath other people's opinions are. Dlc's is mostly about the money. Some people say do you work for free or that it is normal. But it's like buying a car but the wheels and seats must be bought separately. Greets
    [QUOTE="capaho"]

    [QUOTE="Borrizee"]I don't really like dlc's gives me the idea of unfinished games.[/QUOTE]

    I was originally hoping that DLC would be a way to extend the life of a game, but it appears to be just a way to sell you pieces of a game over an extended period of time. I don't think it's a coincidence that campaigns have gotten shorter as DLC has become more prevalent.

    [/QUOTE] Same here but want to hear wath other people's opinions are. Dlc's is mostly about the money. Some people say do you work for free or that it is normal. But it's like buying a car but the wheels and seats must be bought separately. Greets
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  • jim_shorts
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:16 am GMT

    They can be both. Things like Fallout DLC really enhance the game, but other things just fall into the realm of paying for microtransactions that should have been in the game in the first place.

    They can be both. Things like Fallout DLC really enhance the game, but other things just fall into the realm of paying for microtransactions that should have been in the game in the first place.

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  • LoG-Sacrament
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:44 am GMT

    i don't know that it's that simple. developers make the game and publishers have to find a way to monetize them, but there's a lot of back and forth in large releases. when arcades were central to how we experienced games, a system of lives and quarters became commonplace. DLC is the current way to monetize games in the face of rising development costs and developers seem to be struggling to make it work.

    right now, i don't think it's working. there is small nickel & dime type DLC and large expansion pack type DLC. the small stuff feels so unessential to the games and developers obviously can't make it more important or they'll risk alienating users. expansion packs work a bit more because they can exist more on their own, but current development times limit their ability to be the "new games on the same systems" that expansion packs used to be.

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    i don't know that it's that simple. developers make the game and publishers have to find a way to monetize them, but there's a lot of back and forth in large releases. when arcades were central to how we experienced games, a system of lives and quarters became commonplace. DLC is the current way to monetize games in the face of rising development costs and developers seem to be struggling to make it work.

    right now, i don't think it's working. there is small nickel & dime type DLC and large expansion pack type DLC. the small stuff feels so unessential to the games and developers obviously can't make it more important or they'll risk alienating users. expansion packs work a bit more because they can exist more on their own, but current development times limit their ability to be the "new games on the same systems" that expansion packs used to be.

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  • Fear-
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 8:55 am GMT
    Both... They want to make money and it gives a chance for players that loved the game to play more and more, some people do DLC better then others.
    Both... They want to make money and it gives a chance for players that loved the game to play more and more, some people do DLC better then others.
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  • wiouds
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 9:11 am GMT

    I think that when DLC are more like the cash shop items in mmo then I think that it is a problem.

    I think that when DLC are more like the cash shop items in mmo then I think that it is a problem.

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    Nov 16, 2012 4:48 pm GMT

    Borrizee wrote:

    Same here but want to hear wath other people's opinions are. Dlc's is mostly about the money. Some people say do you work for free or that it is normal. But it's like buying a car but the wheels and seats must be bought separately. Greets

    Of course, any business is about money. Who can afford to work for free? It becomes an issue of the quality of the gaming experience for the gamer. It appears to me that game makers are reducing the length of campaigns while still charging the same prices as a way to increase profitability. It's a stealth price increase. They then sell additional missions or maps as DLC, which allows them to keep re-selling the same game to the same gamer. It's a rip-off, IMHO. I think there is a relationship between shorter campaigns, more DLC and the drop-off in game sales. I see other threads where people are pondering the drop in game sales as a sign that consoles are dying, but I think the problem is the diminished quality of new releases. A lot of gamers are not buying into the DLC concept, including me.

    [QUOTE="Borrizee"]

    Same here but want to hear wath other people's opinions are. Dlc's is mostly about the money. Some people say do you work for free or that it is normal. But it's like buying a car but the wheels and seats must be bought separately. Greets

    [/QUOTE]

    Of course, any business is about money. Who can afford to work for free? It becomes an issue of the quality of the gaming experience for the gamer. It appears to me that game makers are reducing the length of campaigns while still charging the same prices as a way to increase profitability. It's a stealth price increase. They then sell additional missions or maps as DLC, which allows them to keep re-selling the same game to the same gamer. It's a rip-off, IMHO. I think there is a relationship between shorter campaigns, more DLC and the drop-off in game sales. I see other threads where people are pondering the drop in game sales as a sign that consoles are dying, but I think the problem is the diminished quality of new releases. A lot of gamers are not buying into the DLC concept, including me.

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  • tribalTox
     
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    Nov 16, 2012 10:34 pm GMT

    How you ever done something, anything, and later on told yourself, "Oh you know what could be cool, if I did [Idea] to this. That would make it better and cooler". I know not all DLC is like that but I'll give some of them the benefit of the doubt that it was just an idea that manifested during the finishing process of the game or after the game was released.

    How you ever done something, anything, and later on told yourself, "Oh you know what could be cool, if I did [Idea] to this. That would make it better and cooler". I know not all DLC is like that but I'll give some of them the benefit of the doubt that it was just an idea that manifested during the finishing process of the game or after the game was released.

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  • punkpunker
     
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    Nov 17, 2012 2:13 am GMT

    in current gen context, making money.

    i miss the days of expansion packs.

    in current gen context, making money.

    i miss the days of expansion packs.

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  • SoNin360
     
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    Nov 17, 2012 8:49 am GMT
    It's all about the money... but some DLC does actually add to the game, and that I don't mind so long as it's not released just after the game is and that it's fairly priced. Most DLC however is overpriced and much of it comes out within just a few months of a game's release anyway.

    It's all about the money... but some DLC does actually add to the game, and that I don't mind so long as it's not released just after the game is and that it's fairly priced. Most DLC however is overpriced and much of it comes out within just a few months of a game's release anyway.
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  • Venom_Raptor
     
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    Nov 17, 2012 9:47 am GMT

    Multiplayer DLC is a lame way to make money. Worse is the laughable amount of people that actually pay a lot of money for extra COD maps.

    I like single player DLC though.

    Multiplayer DLC is a lame way to make money. Worse is the laughable amount of people that actually pay a lot of money for extra COD maps.

    I like single player DLC though.

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  • wiouds
     
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    Nov 17, 2012 5:02 pm GMT

    I think DLC become a problem when they are like cash shop items in free to play games.

    I don't think that are bad. I have yet to see any reasonable proof they they were cut from the game.

    I think DLC become a problem when they are like cash shop items in free to play games.

    I don't think that are bad. I have yet to see any reasonable proof they they were cut from the game.

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    Nov 18, 2012 8:58 am GMT

    Both. I think some companies put out crappy DLC that they know will sell regardless of quality, whilst others are still making good DLC that actually adds to the game. It depends on the company and their mindset, whether they're purely in it to make money or whether they're interested in improving their game.

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    Both. I think some companies put out crappy DLC that they know will sell regardless of quality, whilst others are still making good DLC that actually adds to the game. It depends on the company and their mindset, whether they're purely in it to make money or whether they're interested in improving their game.

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  • Archangel3371
     
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    Nov 18, 2012 9:34 am GMT
    I like dlc on the whole myself. I don't care if it's day one dlc or on-disc dlc if it's something I'll enjoy then I'll buy it regardless. I've purchased a fair amount of dlc both single player and multiplayer stuff and virtually all of the stuff I've purchased I have been satisfied with.

    I like dlc on the whole myself. I don't care if it's day one dlc or on-disc dlc if it's something I'll enjoy then I'll buy it regardless. I've purchased a fair amount of dlc both single player and multiplayer stuff and virtually all of the stuff I've purchased I have been satisfied with.
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  • MasterBrief
     
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    Nov 18, 2012 11:11 am GMT

    Some DLC like the DLC in Borderlands 1 and 2 does add to the game and is actually worth paying for at a resonable price others like all the Capcom DLC for street fighter and MVC is all insanely overpriced and is just there to make cash. I can see how they might not have had time to put in some locations, quests and bosses and such in Borderlands or like the Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim, I get that but how you can't add in one or two characters or skins before the final cut in MVC is just stupid. It is obviously a shot at taking your money and the hate that was behind it back when it was going on is well justified. With DLC making a better game, it also depends. Some just make the game that is already great longer while other DLC like the expansion in Morrowind made the game even better. So it really depends on the nature of the DLC and who is making it. I really hate cosmetic DLC like Sleeping Dogs had I like more of the content enhancing ones like expansion packs those add to the game not a new dress.

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    Some DLC like the DLC in Borderlands 1 and 2 does add to the game and is actually worth paying for at a resonable price others like all the Capcom DLC for street fighter and MVC is all insanely overpriced and is just there to make cash. I can see how they might not have had time to put in some locations, quests and bosses and such in Borderlands or like the Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim, I get that but how you can't add in one or two characters or skins before the final cut in MVC is just stupid. It is obviously a shot at taking your money and the hate that was behind it back when it was going on is well justified. With DLC making a better game, it also depends. Some just make the game that is already great longer while other DLC like the expansion in Morrowind made the game even better. So it really depends on the nature of the DLC and who is making it. I really hate cosmetic DLC like Sleeping Dogs had I like more of the content enhancing ones like expansion packs those add to the game not a new dress.

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  • Kravyn81
     
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    Nov 18, 2012 10:51 pm GMT
    I find it ironic that one of the chief complaints about this gen is games are too short. Yet DLC is defended as being "worth it" when it only adds several more hours (at best) to an already short game.

    Can anyone connect the dots and see that by adding this supposedly "expanded" material that developer are simply selling you snake oil in the guise of "extra content?" Maybe if they didn't purposely withhold several hours worth of content that could easily fit into the regular game the complaints of games being too short would go away, but they aren't and instead seem to be proliferating. Are we beginning to see a pattern here?

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    I find it ironic that one of the chief complaints about this gen is games are too short. Yet DLC is defended as being "worth it" when it only adds several more hours (at best) to an already short game. Can anyone connect the dots and see that by adding this supposedly "expanded" material that developer are simply selling you snake oil in the guise of "extra content?" Maybe if they didn't purposely withhold several hours worth of content that could easily fit into the regular game the complaints of games being too short would go away, but they aren't and instead seem to be proliferating. Are we beginning to see a pattern here? People are stupid and easily duped.
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