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SterlingFox

Oct 8, 2012 2:56 pm GMT
The fascinating thing is that somebody said Reach is the best Halo, and he was instantly labeled a troll.
I say the same thing about Halo CE, and not a single person accuses me of that.

Its clear that you are actually the troll in this situation, members of gamefaqs.
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__bale

Oct 8, 2012 3:00 pm GMT
MrSty posted...

Yes. The aim assist wasn't as strong as Halo 2's though. Halo CE did have noticeable aim assist, definitely not as lacking as you described it. With that being said, the more you have to shoot, the more likely you are to miss. Aim assist isn't that big of a factor in this case. It's the random spread of the pistol.

lol CE pistol had no spread
MrSty

Oct 8, 2012 3:25 pm GMT
__bale posted...
MrSty posted...

Yes. The aim assist wasn't as strong as Halo 2's though. Halo CE did have noticeable aim assist, definitely not as lacking as you described it. With that being said, the more you have to shoot, the more likely you are to miss. Aim assist isn't that big of a factor in this case. It's the random spread of the pistol.

lol CE pistol had no spread

lol yes it did
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fiasco86

Oct 8, 2012 6:18 pm GMT
SterlingFox posted...
The fascinating thing is that somebody said Reach is the best Halo, and he was instantly labeled a troll.
I say the same thing about Halo CE, and not a single person accuses me of that.

Its clear that you are actually the troll in this situation, members of gamefaqs.

You don't get labeled a troll for saying something that's true...
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fiasco86

Oct 8, 2012 6:26 pm GMT
MrSty posted...

I knew before I even clicked that link that it was going to be Blood Gulch. That's just dumb.

Most maps were smaller though.

Read that statement again. And again. And again until you understand what I was implying.

Also, after watching the video I still stand by what I said. Leading the shots wasn't an issue even when you were a little past the optimal range. Spread was the issue. At that distance, yeah the DMR would be easier to 5sk than the pistol would 3sk. Especially on a wide open map with little cover.

Most people hold the trigger down on the pistol which increases the spread. When you pull it for each shot, the spread is reduced.

Before I replied, I did read that statement several times and I still didn't understand what you meant by it. It has no context. You were talking about not having to lead shots and then you just said that. I didn't know what maps you were talking about and it didn't seem to have a concrete connection to what you were saying about leading shots.

And yes, leading shots most definitely was an issue. Maybe not on some of the smaller maps which I guess is what you were saying, but watch 1st player in that video around 9:00. There is definite lead there with both the sniper and the pistol, and I was not holding down the trigger.
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MrSty

Oct 9, 2012 2:27 am GMT
The reticule was on the guy and he got shot. There was NO leading, LOL. Halo CE was hitscan, tool. Spread is the only thing apparent in that video since you were far enough away for the pistol's accuracy to take a slight dip. Seriously, your video is proving my point. Leading shots wasn't an issue.

Halo 3 was the game where leading was an issue since it wasn't hitscan. You guys should try looking things up once in awhile.
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phaloxx

Oct 9, 2012 3:25 am GMT
Halo 1 is easily the best campaign of all the halos. I may be biased because I picked it up the day it came out and it was huge for the time.
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The_Djoker

Oct 9, 2012 7:03 am GMT
From: jakethenoob | #013
Halo 2 and 3 have better campaigns

Halo 2's campaign was utter garbage. Opinions like this should not be allowed.
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A_Cornered_Fox

Oct 9, 2012 7:48 am GMT
Was the M6D overpowered in Halo: CE? Yes. Is it really that overpowered? No.

The biggest issue with Halo: CE's weapon balance isn't the strength of the pistol, but the weakness of the other weapons. The AR was next to useless really, same with the needler. In fact, every Covenant weapon needed a velocity boost to give it more range. The AR needed an accuracy boost and maybe a power boost.

For the idea that the pistol isn't overpowered. I will admit, it is MUCH more difficult to get a 3sk with the pistol than a 4sk with a BR or 5sk with the DMR. Aim assist is NOT the reason, the reason is bullet magnetism. In Halo: CE, if you weren't right on the person's head, you weren't going to hit them. Take a rocket, aim it right beside someone's head, and pull the trigger. In Halo: CE, it will simply go right past them, giving them some nasty imaginary sideburns. In most every other Halo game, you'll shoot them in the head. That said however, the Halo: CE pistol only takes 5 shots to the body to kill someone, so...

To put this the best way possible, the M6D would be akin to a mini sniper rifle in all successive Halo games. It's dominance at long range is far superior to that of any other precision weapon since. It actually could probably work as a power weapon. In Halo: CE though, if the other weapons were properly buffed, the pistol wouldn't have been that over powered. The problem is that most of the other weapons (outside the power weapons) were too damn weak. Since Bungie's answer to everything concerning balance was "nerf it," we got stuck with the weapons we have now.
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fiasco86

Oct 10, 2012 5:25 pm GMT
MrSty posted...
The reticule was on the guy and he got shot. There was NO leading, LOL. Halo CE was hitscan, tool. Spread is the only thing apparent in that video since you were far enough away for the pistol's accuracy to take a slight dip. Seriously, your video is proving my point. Leading shots wasn't an issue.

Halo 3 was the game where leading was an issue since it wasn't hitscan. You guys should try looking things up once in awhile.

I play this game regularly still today. I can tell you with absolute certainty that you do have to lead your shots with the pistol. You don't have to take your reticule off of the target, but at long range you do have to aim using the outer edge of the reticule opposite the direction they're moving.
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MrSty

Oct 10, 2012 6:42 pm GMT
fiasco86 posted...
I play this game regularly still today. I can tell you with absolute certainty that you do have to lead your shots with the pistol. You don't have to take your reticule off of the target, but at long range you do have to aim using the outer edge of the reticule opposite the direction they're moving.

Leading shots wasn't even an issue. Most maps were smaller though.

Yes, on a big map like Blood Gulch. That is an extreme since all other maps have tighter spaces and shorter sightlines sans Sidewinder. Your video never showed how far away you have to be for leading shots to be an issue (which is extremely far) and you shouldn't be trying to shoot them from that distance anyway since the spread is a bigger concern at that point.

I posted that so long ago, it's just sad that you can't keep up. Please pedal faster.
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PharoahPelican

Oct 10, 2012 6:44 pm GMT
The_Djoker posted...
From: jakethenoob | #013
Halo 2 and 3 have better campaigns

Halo 2's campaign was utter garbage. Opinions like this should not be allowed.

The second sentence is contradicted by the sentence before it.
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conejon

Oct 11, 2012 8:19 am GMT
In my opinion, Halo CE was the best of the Halo titles. Personally, I was not found of the changes they made in Halo 2 and Halo 3 such as the improved aim assistance, dual wielding, lung capabilities, elimination of the health pack system, lack of fall damage, and the fact that Master Chief feels like he is floating when he jumps (not to mention that he jumps way higher). Halo Reach was a step in the right direction with the removal of dual wielding and reintroduction of health packs, but still nothing like Halo CE. My friends and I still get together and do LAN parties with Halo CE. A lot of people really liked Halo 2 and 3, and I respect that, but these titles veered far away from the award winning equation of success that Halo CE is known for.
MrFish86

Oct 11, 2012 8:47 am GMT
MrSty posted...
__bale posted...
MrSty posted...

Yes. The aim assist wasn't as strong as Halo 2's though. Halo CE did have noticeable aim assist, definitely not as lacking as you described it. With that being said, the more you have to shoot, the more likely you are to miss. Aim assist isn't that big of a factor in this case. It's the random spread of the pistol.

lol CE pistol had no spread

lol yes it did

The Halo CE pistol only had spread if you held down the trigger to shoot, but if you just tapped the trigger to shoot, you will experience extremely minimal bloom. When I say extremely minimal, I mean if you're on blood gulch and tap fire from one side of the canyon to the other, you'll see very slight differences in bullet hole points. So basically, as long as you don't hold down the trigger, you have no bloom with the Halo CE pistol, but it is there if you want to hold that trigger down. So..... just don't do it.
fiasco86

Oct 11, 2012 11:14 am GMT
MrFish86 posted...
MrSty posted...
__bale posted...
MrSty posted...

Yes. The aim assist wasn't as strong as Halo 2's though. Halo CE did have noticeable aim assist, definitely not as lacking as you described it. With that being said, the more you have to shoot, the more likely you are to miss. Aim assist isn't that big of a factor in this case. It's the random spread of the pistol.

lol CE pistol had no spread

lol yes it did

The Halo CE pistol only had spread if you held down the trigger to shoot, but if you just tapped the trigger to shoot, you will experience extremely minimal bloom. When I say extremely minimal, I mean if you're on blood gulch and tap fire from one side of the canyon to the other, you'll see very slight differences in bullet hole points. So basically, as long as you don't hold down the trigger, you have no bloom with the Halo CE pistol, but it is there if you want to hold that trigger down. So..... just don't do it.

^This.

Spread was never really an issue. Leading shots was. You say only on large maps? Which Halo maps were played the most? Blood Gulch and Hang 'Em High, which both have long sight lines where you do need to lead your target. Sidewinder, like you said, and Boarding Action also have long sight lines. Even a lot of the other maps that feel smaller have long enough sight lines that you may need to lead in some circumstances (Derelict, Damnation, Rat Race, and Prisoner to a certain extent). That's 8 maps out of 13 where leading shots certainly IS a factor.

I posted that so long ago, it's just sad that you can't keep up. Please pedal faster.

I prefer to pedal slower in high gear. That way I actually get somewhere.
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fiasco86

Oct 12, 2012 11:21 am GMT
Hm...I guess I win. Did pedaling so fast tire you out?
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fiasco86

Oct 12, 2012 11:27 am GMT
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Oh, I see now.
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