How well do you think this team would do IRL?
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Jan 20, 2013 5:11 pm GMT
Every time I do a fantasy draft in association, I try to make a realistic and cap friendly team. I drafted near the bottom of round 1 in a serpentine draft
My team: Knicks, Head Coach: Mike Woodson
PG: Jeremy Lin
SG: Kirk Hinrich
SF: Paul George
PF: Josh Smith
C: Tyson Chandler
Bench
Jason Richardson, Sebastian Telfair, Rasheed Wallace..
My team is rated pretty high at 85 and We have 5 million in cap space. If I trade Jrich for an expiring, I will have about 30 million in cap space next season. I am hoping I can resign Josh Smith and sign Chris Paul. Probably a long shot but hey.
What do you think?
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Jan 20, 2013 7:35 pm GMT
First round out, second at best. Great defensive team though
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Jan 21, 2013 2:51 am GMT
I don't like you because you got rid of Melo and STAT. I don't see a noticeable difference between Amar'e and Smith in this game.
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Jan 21, 2013 3:26 am GMT
He didnt get rid of em, its a fantasy draft. He just happened to pick a couple of knicks players
Jan 21, 2013 4:14 pm GMT
I would rather have smith over stat,irl, any day of the week
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Jan 21, 2013 4:25 pm GMT
PG-SF isn't putting much fear into the opponent. Henrich is a pretty weak SG. I like smith+ chandler combo though.
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Jan 21, 2013 8:46 pm GMT
richardson would be starting over hinrich
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Jan 21, 2013 9:47 pm GMT
Defense looks fantastic and George has superstar potential. Bench is weak and not much in the way of offensive identity/leadership, though.
From: McGriff67 | #003I don't like you because you got rid of Melo and STAT. I don't see a noticeable difference between Amar'e and Smith in this game.
Amare is one of the worst defensive big men in the league, Smith is an elite defender.
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Jan 21, 2013 9:50 pm GMT
From: Bigtymer113 | #007richardson would be starting over hinrich
Disagree, based on the other bench players listed. Richardson can be a scoring spark off the bench, and this way you have a PG, SG/SF, and PF/C as your first 3 off the bench, rather than PG, PG/SG, and PF/C.
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Jan 21, 2013 10:37 pm GMT
Thanks for the input guys.
Its funny. When I finished drafting this team, I thought it was one of the worst I have ever created. But in fact, this team is maybe one of the best. I play at allstar difficulty and in game they are all ball hawks and I get several blocks per game.
The funny thing is that 2k rates this teams offense really high for some reason. We are ranked 2nd in the league. I dont know if that's due to the coach or what. However just like I would expect, we go into super long scoring druaghts as we don't have a go to scorer.
That is why this team will be godlike if I can retain Smith and land paul without having to give up any major pieces.
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Jan 21, 2013 11:54 pm GMT
Disagree, based on the other bench players listed. Richardson can be a scoring spark off the bench, and this way you have a PG, SG/SF, and PF/C as your first 3 off the bench, rather than PG, PG/SG, and PF/C.
Hinrich is a defensive liability and would be similar to Ray Allen's role on the heat - have Josh Smith (lebron) drive the lane and kick out. If he starts the other team has the ability to get their SG going early.
JRich is more solid all around and shouldn't be coming off of the bench, he thrives when he is the starter (Magic, Suns). Telfair is a good scorer and plays similar is Jeremy Lin anyway, so it wouldn't be that much of a difference. Plus if Smith is staying on the court than the offense would primarily run through him and neither JRich or Hinrich, but JRich is a better player and should be a starter, regardless of who is on the bench.
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Jan 22, 2013 12:30 am GMT
Mizznox posted...Defense looks fantastic and George has superstar potential. Bench is weak and not much in the way of offensive identity/leadership, though.
From: McGriff67 | #003
I don't like you because you got rid of Melo and STAT. I don't see a noticeable difference between Amar'e and Smith in this game.
Amare is one of the worst defensive big men in the league, Smith is an elite defender.
He is fine in the game. Not elite but he is decent and in real life he will be solid this year after Coach gets a hold of him for most of the season.
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From: Bigtymer113 | #011Hinrich is a defensive liability
... Are you being serious right now? Hinrich is a very solid defender and has never had an issue defending bigger guards.
I don't think Richardson is a significantly better player, if at all. He's primarily a scorer who has seen his effectiveness in that regard fall off greatly the past few years. He's now a glorified spot-up shooter (half his shots are 3s, averages only 1 FTA per game) and brings little else to the table. Hinrich's shot has been off this year, but he can fulfill that same role while also being able to create for others with the ball and he's a much better defender.
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Jan 22, 2013 1:25 am GMT
... Are you being serious right now? Hinrich is a very solid defender and has never had an issue defending bigger guards.
This sentence really makes me want to leave this board and never come back. I can't believe you wake up in the mirror with that thought in your brain.
Kirk Hinrich? A very solid defender....? I can't believe I'm seriously reading that. He literally is the epitome of a defensive liability. He's not quick enough to guard the smaller more athletic guards (Paul, Rondo, Jennings, Parker) and is too short to guard the taller guards such as Tyreke Evans. If the other guard does bad against Hinrich it's because they're having an off night.
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Jan 22, 2013 2:22 am GMT
Hmm, I'm really not sure what else I can say here.
Hinrich has always been known best for his defense. Even as Chicago fans rag on him about his shaky shooting this season they still concede that he is a good defender. Aside from general comments about him declining, I've never seen anyone really criticize his defense, certainly not to the point of calling him a liability. He's smart, committed, and is good at disrupting what an offensive player wants to do. Yes, he's a very solid defender and has never had issues defending bigger guards.
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Jan 22, 2013 7:15 am GMT
Bigtymer is only legitimately saying that because he's white.
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Jan 22, 2013 7:35 am GMT
Bigtymer is only legitimately saying that because he's white.
If anything he would be a good defender...usually white american basketball players are exceptional fundamentalists if they aren't tall and clumsy. And I'm white...
I have friends who are Bulls fans and I've never heard one even concede that he's a good player...
I think he's a perfect off the bench player who can fit in the same type of role Ray Allen plays. Hinrich made that clutch jumper a few games ago and dropped 22. I will not concede that he is a good defender, as I will take the longer, taller, more athletic JRich over him any day in terms of defense. This year he's averaging 6 and 5 while JRich is averaging 10 and 3 I think. I just think Hinrich's role would be better off the bench.
But like I said, it wouldn't really matter who starts as the offense would go through Smith.
Hinrich is certainly not a bad player, but to say he is a very good defender is just weird. He hasn't ever made 1st or 2nd team all defense and I've never seen him make a really spectacular defensive play. But it's whatever really. This question is hypothetical as is so there's really no point in arguing who would be the better fit since we don't know
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Jan 22, 2013 7:37 am GMT
He actually has made the all defensive 2nd team...but that was one time in 2007.
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Jan 22, 2013 8:03 am GMT
@Bigtymer113
why dont you just admit that you are wrong?
hinrich has been a good defender pretty much his whole career
try to get underrated good 3 point shooters like reddick/danny green/gary neal
start danny green n bring hinrich to back up lin and green.
This team is a monster defensively with 3 players who can be DPOY (george, smith ( although he is erratic at times), chandler)
and very good in transition. if you get another 2 shooters to space the floor, this team will contend.
Jan 22, 2013 11:01 am GMT
why dont you just admit that you are wrong?
because he's not "a very good defender"
i wouldn't even go as far to say that he's even good...MAYBE average.
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