Microsoft mixing up 360 hard drive options?

  • By Polybren, GameSpot
  • Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:35 am GMT

Source: A report on Xbox Family, citing an e-mail supposedly sent to buyers for GameStop and Blockbuster. What we heard: The Xbox Family report includes a number of assertions as to Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 plans, all of which are derived from a leaked e-mail supposedly sent to employees at...

Source: A report on Xbox Family, citing an e-mail supposedly sent to buyers for GameStop and Blockbuster.

What we heard: The Xbox Family report includes a number of assertions as to Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 plans, all of which are derived from a leaked e-mail supposedly sent to employees at GameStop and Blockbuster.

According to the e-mail, there's a new Xbox 360 Pro package set for release this month that will include a 60GB hard drive. Then in late October or early November, Microsoft will release a stand-alone 60GB hard drive accessory for $99.99 that will replace the current 20GB option on store shelves. It will also come with a three-month Xbox Live subscription, a wired headset, and an Xbox 360 Ethernet cable. As for the 120GB accessory that currently sells for $179.99 (on Amazon.com anyway, as GameStop.com doesn't appear to carry it at all as of this writing), the e-mail says the hard drive will also receive a price drop in September to $149.99.

Everything in the story is plausible. Between the ever-increasing size of Xbox Live Arcade games, the abundance of demos, downloadable content like Rock Band song libraries, and high-definition movie rentals, the standard 20GB hard drive has seemed restrictive for some time now. At the same time, the price point of the 120GB upgrade as it is now probably scares off a good number of customers, partly because a drive with the same amount of storage for a PC or the PlayStation 3 can be purchased for one-third as much.

However, there are some lingering questions. Why doesn't the 60GB hard drive come with a data transfer cable like the 120GB drive? Surely some 20GB owners would be interested in upgrading and want to carry all their data over. And why would Microsoft roll these changes out gradually, with a 60GB-equipped Xbox 360 console arriving this month (and not advertised in sales fliers that suggest a price drop next week), the 120GB price dropping in September, and then a month or so later, the introduction of the stand-alone 60GB hard drive accessory?

The official story: As is our policy, we don't comment on rumors and speculation.--A Microsoft representative.

Bogus or not bogus?: Microsoft needs to offer gamers more storage space for less money. Hopefully not bogus.

277 Comments

  • Jorako

    Posted Oct 29, 2008 7:02 pm GMT

    Damn, i can get a 500 GB USB 2.0 drive for that price..why not allow that?? WTF M$... way to stimulate the economy

  • djdna514

    Posted Aug 22, 2008 6:27 am GMT

    a little late on this one but the 20g hard drives have been discontinued on their own for nearly 9 months.

  • punk_shorty27

    Posted Aug 1, 2008 6:29 pm GMT

    150 dollars? Hell no

  • xbox360progamer

    Posted Jul 28, 2008 4:08 pm GMT

    this sucks really bad .. i hate that..

  • mark_unix

    Posted Jul 13, 2008 6:31 am GMT

    Jazzism u lose xbox live when u hack the HDD disk in the xbox360..
    unlike the PS3 where upgrading your HDD is something which your allowed to do whenever u want..

  • mark_unix

    Posted Jul 13, 2008 6:29 am GMT

    i just put a cheapo standard 2.5" S-ATA drive in my PS3, sorta sucks about the xbox360 u can't just buy a standard pc drive like u can with the PS3...

  • pourya_ahmadian

    Posted Jul 13, 2008 5:43 am GMT

    (WE ARE THE BEST AND WILL BE)
    ONLY GREAT XBOX360;

  • combatsoldier

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 8:21 pm GMT

    bottom line is that the hard drives are just completely over priced as to what they should be. If they lowered the cost by about 20 to 40 bucks more they would sell without a doubt.

  • mpeg3s

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 8:06 pm GMT

    The MS Hard Drive is 2.5 inches. I believe MS should make a new X360 with ESATA and start to discontinue their manufacturering of storage.

    They are finally starting to address DRM problems! MS always lags behinds in open standards and copy protection.

    When will they fully address the RED ring?

    The X360 is suffering due to this!

  • Somebody89

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 9:13 am GMT

    Every console has their ups and downs. In this case the 360 has some big issues with the harddrive choices.

  • Bane_v2

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 7:22 am GMT

    $150 for the 120GB is still highway robbery!

    I can get a higher capacity hard drive for a third of the price at newegg.

    I'm not paying $100 for the fancy shell! Kiss my *** MS!

  • theone86

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 4:55 am GMT

    So let me get this straight, with PC drives multiple companies manufacture them which means that those companies will have to stay relatively close to each other's prices, but since MS manufactures the only 360 drives they can charge three times market price. That is not supply and demand how? That's the whole idea behind supply and demand. If five other companies offer identical products I can only match their price if I wish to remain competitive, however if I'm the only manufacturer on the market I can demand whatever I want because if people don't buy it from me they don't buy it from anyone. The other side to this equation, as I explained, is demand. If there is no demand for the product, i.e. low 120 GB sales, supply means nothing. MS, however, has somehow been able to bend the rules by charging premo prices for a low-demand item. My question is why not just sell them at fair market price and actually turn a profit on them?

    Where I can't argue with you is camera drives. I went to Best Buy.com and the first thing that showed up is an 8 GB flash drive for $265 (OUCH!!!) Personally, I use a phone camera and import my pics to my E-mail. My parents use a digital camera, and they download their pics onto their computer after every trip. Therein lies the key difference between camera and game system drives, though. One camera drive will last you the life of the camera, while a system drive is only good to the extent of its capacity. Where my parents can purge their drive after downloading or printing their pics, I can't purge my 360 of all the things I need. I have 14 360 games, 2 Xbox games, 1 Xbox Original, and three game demos and I only have about 3 gigs left on my 20 GB HDD. I don't think many people would consider me a hardcore gamer, but I'm still running short on space. I don't want to delete games I paid $10-15 for, but I'm going to have to if I want to buy more. Add this to the fact that MS is already making me pay for online and it just seems like I'm getting screwed. Believe me, I love my 360. The hours I've logged on Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 2, Bioshock, Gears of War, Saints Row, and Dead Rising make my purchase WELL worth it. I could care less about wireless connectivity, and Blu-ray doesn't mean that much to me considering I don't have an HDTV. I don't even mind paying for Gold seeing as how it's only really like $4 a month for the best online gaming network out there. The problem I have is with storage. System drives are almost identical to computer drives. They're more than just a temporary station for pictures and movies, they're a permanent storage place for games, some of which takes up a LOT of space. Considering I'm paying a monthly fee for access to an online service which also offers me these games, I would think MS would have a sense of customer loyalty and charge a competitive price for their hard drives. I mean seriously, I can find a USB drive with twice the storage capacity for $200. At that rate, a 120 GB should only cost $100. 160 GB external hard drive, $110. 250 GB external, $130. IF MS was charging fair market price a 120 GB would be worth $100 MAX. The only reason they can charge what they are is because they're manufacturing their own product.

  • imadmamc

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 3:25 am GMT

    imho, i think MS is trying to correct a small flaw in an otherwise exceptional system(yes..i think its THAT good.."gears 2" is all i can say to PS3-fanbois & Wii-babies)..

    that small flaw being that 360's without hard-drives cannot have game data installed on them..therfore limiting the possibility that some truely HUGE games will have multiple discs("gears 3" maybe..)..

    so if they provide a viable option($99..not to mention rebates/coupons..whatever)..it could be a possibility that it is a move for the future..

    to all the haters/cynics..look beyond the present..think of the future..maybe if 80-90% of 360's have a hard-disk..it could correct this small flaw & pave the way for..umm..i dunno..MGS4 on 360!!sweeeeeet!! maybe im just being unrealistic..but hell yeah!!

  • Serious

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 3:19 am GMT

    That's why I like the PS3 setup. Just go buy the sata hdd of choice and with so many choices the prices are a great deal. I have a 60 gb hdd and its down to 12 gb. I've search the internet and found a 320gb hdd for only $161. According to the Amazon reviews all the PS3 owners say it works great! Yet Microsoft fans who say that PS3 is too expensive still don't see the cost of upgrading far outweights the initial cost.

  • adtres3

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 3:03 am GMT

    cybergooch

    it is clear as crystal that you dont own a ps3 blue ray is beyond exceptional look what happened to the hd dvds all out of stores, why you think people buy blue ray players for tons of money. Online service theres nothing that differs both besides little things due to ps3 updates that keeps improving the system. Finally games just look at the e3 list the ps3 has more than a handful exclusives to name. The games in 360 were way better before but finally ps3 has all its exclusives coming out its your talking about something of the past bud. people who want 360 and have friends that have it will get it same goes for ps3 end of story.

  • wtf_ironmaiden

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 8:04 pm GMT

    what the **** i barely got my xbox 360 last week and microsoft is going to release an xbox with a 60 gb hard drive for 50 dollars cheaper than the one i got?!!!!! ****

  • -HaloHitman-

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 6:29 pm GMT

    What the?

  • cybergooch

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 5:48 pm GMT

    theone86,

    (Laughing out loud) That is hardly the definition of "supply and demand" but I get what you are trying to say. I never said that people COULDN'T afford the drive, I was saying that IF they couldn't. I'm curious now, is the 360 HDD a disk or flash drive? If it's a disk, I might concede that the price is too high. But if it's a flash drive, well, how much does a 16gb flash drive cost for a camera? $275? $300? Obviously platter based drives have been around for years and so cost should be minimal.

  • ctg867

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 5:26 pm GMT

    I remember hearing the 60GB rumor before. Probably from an old GameSpot article. Not really surprised. Seems to me like they'll drop the price of the Pro/Premium to $300 sometime this month, move all the old units off the shelf, and have all the new units include 60GB drives.

    But yet again, Microsoft is just packing in a bunch of crap that in reality adds very little to production costs, but seems like it adds something to the package. In the end, all it does is force the consumer to pay more money for things they probably don't want or already have.

    Three extra months of Live is nice and all, but the Pro/Premium already comes with a wired headset and an ethernet cable. By upping the drive size, all those old Pro/Premium users are possible upgrade customers. You kinda screw them with an excuse to keep the price so high with cheap pack ins (the headset is pretty low quality).

    So this is only targeted at the Core/Arcade user now? See, that would make sense if this was the 20GB drive and they packed this stuff in. All this does is set them up to drop the price of the Core/Arcade to $200, so the extra $100 from this 60GB drive bundle would make it nearly identical with the $300 Pro/Premium which would now have these drives. Only difference is the HDMI output and the chrome disc tray trim on the Pro/Premium, and you get three months of Live with the separate drive, and one month of Live with the Pro/Premium.

    Wow, so they're gonna drop the price of the 120GB drive $150 for Fall as well. $30, what a huge price drop. So the 120GB drive comes with a transfer cable for old 20GB users, but no three month Live card, no headset, and no ethernet cable. But the 60GB drive doesn't comes with a transfer cable for old 20GB users to move their stuff over, but comes with three months of live, and a headset and ethernet cable they already bought with the console.

    So basically, they're saying that all Core/Arcade users can upgrade to a 60GB drive at a future date, and get a few extras now then they would of got with the 20GB drive. Though this drive isn't for the old Pro/Premium guys, it's only for the Core/Acrade guys. The 120GB is the option for the old 20GB guys, but they have to dish out $150 for it. What a ****ed up system Micrsoft has going here to screw it's consumer base.

    A quick check on eBay shows that you can find a 2.5" SATA 120GB laptop hard drive, the same type of drive you can use with your PS3, and the same drive the 360 uses if you just crack that plastic case open, for between $30 and $60. When the hell does a plastic case, the "convenience of portability", and a drive transfer cable (which cost little to nothing), justify a $150 purchase? I call MAJOR bull ****.

  • Justforfun44

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 3:40 pm GMT

    "combatsoldier ...I paid over 550 bucks for mine and it came with a 12 gig hard drive."

    The Xbox 360 never had a 12 gig hard drive. The 360 shipped with a 20GB drive, but when formatted it reserved over 6GB for the system use only.

  • codecks

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 2:04 pm GMT

    so the new 360 pro with 60 gb will cost $300 just like the current one (with only 20 gb) will in a few days? wtf? sucks for the ppl who end up buying the 20 gb one.

  • shoeman12

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 10:38 am GMT

    Jazzism,
    there's a youtube video that shows you how to replace the hdd inside the custom hdd case but it will only recognize up to 120 GB. still cheaper than microsofts, though.

  • Jazzism

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 7:13 am GMT

    Isn't the HD in the system the same as any laptop HD?

    Go buy one of those and ghost the xbox image over and bam you got yourself a 250 or even a 500gb xbox HD. Yes?

  • Dav_id83

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 4:41 am GMT

    I understand if you own an Arcade but it's basically for that console owner if you own the 20GB Premium then you'll obviously have to go with the 120GB HDD. Because you've already got the headset, ethernet cable and such.

  • -eddy-

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 3:26 am GMT

    "It will also come with a three-month Xbox Live subscription, a wired headset, and an Xbox 360 Ethernet cable."

    Seems as if they're trying to get people with X360 Core to upgrade their 360. That's a perfect kit for it if you think about it.

  • theone86

    Posted Jul 11, 2008 1:19 am GMT

    Cybergooch, you're missing the point. Just because we're complaining doesn't mean we can't afford it. I could squeeze my budget in order to spring for one, but the idea of paying almost three times what every other comprable memory unit on the market costs is ridiculous. I don't know why MS thinks it's OK to charge that much. That's like if I started selling stereos or TVs at three times what other stereos or TVs cost, even if there's no difference in quality. Only here it's different because MS makes the only 360 hard drives, which brings me to my next point.

    Supply and demand. MS owns the only supply of 360 compatible hard drives, they demand whatever they want for them. It's a smart move on a business level, but from an ethics level it's pure robbery. It becomes an even dumber move when you consider that one of the selling points for this console is an online service that gives you access to downloads. Sure, you can skip out on keeping songs and video on your hard drive, but if you start downloading originals and arcade games your 20 GB is gonna fill up fast. I think it's a shame that MS has decided to be so stingy on this issue, especially considering they're making us pay for wireless connectivity and monthly Live access. It's good that people have avoided the 120 GB up until now, because that basically negates MS's advantage in regards to supply and demand, but they really need to stick with it. If you buy a $150 120 GB hard drive you're telling MS that it's OK to charge more for a product than what it's worth. A $30 price cut is not that much, especially considering how little MS pays to manufacture them. $120 is the MAX they could charge for these that could be considered fair market price.

  • glhx1rush

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 10:34 pm GMT

    Agree. The hard drive fiasco for the 360 is epic. Even with the price drop, the 120 gig is still way too expensive. Try again Microsoft. my 20 gig drive is ok, but, I just don't download much of anything. What that means Microsoft, is I'm not spending money on your stuff. No way I'm going to spend $150 on a 120 gig drive. Maybe $75, but thats pushing it.

  • BVCX

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 10:23 pm GMT

    lol I got 500gb on my ps3

  • man_alive

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 8:23 pm GMT

    I love my 360, but MicroSoft is stupid. They want digital downloads to be the future (esp for movies, etc.) but then they make storage prohibitively expensive. If they would price their harddrives to earn cost of capital and nothing more, I would gladly fill it up with $5 & $10 purchases. But there's no way I could ever pay more than 75 cents a gig for storage without feeling like an idiot. These price drops don't even come close and are sabotaging their broader strategy. Somebody should be fired.

  • combatsoldier

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 7:17 pm GMT

    hey lets not turn this into a flame war people. everyone has the right to express there opinions as long as it is not insulting other individuals. I understand why people are so upset. I paid over 550 bucks for mine and it came with a 12 gig hard drive. then like a month or two later they discontinued those and had the 20 gig, however, the games and music on xbox luckily dont use hardly any memory. I have 10,000 songs and about 250 saved games on my 12 gig and i still have a little over 6 gigs left. so i dont see why its such a big problem. then again. i dont download movies and stuff on my 360 i just game and listen to music. So i guess it depends what you use if for. Also the ps3 I have an 80 gig and have to upgrade that as soon as possible. I love my ps3 but when it comes to data storage, the 360 has it on that one. So stop people insulting eachother. This is not a troll or flame war thread.

  • Justforfun44

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 6:02 pm GMT

    The drives are expensive. Maybe an external USB drive is a better option for expanding the 360. I have the 20GB. I filled it a few times in the beginning, but I got in the habit of getting rid of the older demos that I didn't play. I also have my Xbox 360 networked to my PC which gives me complete access to my large music collection with no space wasted on my Xbox 360. I have 6GB free right now, and I am not suffering for things to play. More new demos downloaded last night from Xbox Live! I do think it would be good to have HDD in all Xbox 360.

  • Valen_Ca

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 5:38 pm GMT

    Here's an idea, just add the 20GB drive to the Xbox 360 Arcade , put the 60 in the Pro and the 120 for the Elite, that way all of the systems can have a hard drive now. There really is no excuse if the 60GB model comes out for the Arcade to go without an HDD. While they are at it they should keep the 20GB drive around as an add on accessory, just price it for around $40-$60 so that people that don't have one can pick one up cheaply.

  • pleasurengineer

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 5:28 pm GMT

    To not chop the price by at least 2 is pure greed by M$. M$ is shooting itself in the foot. I stopped downloading demos because I have no more space to do so. Where I may have bought Bad Company and Civ Rev. I will now buy neither because I'm not buying without trying.

    I understand the need for profits, but sometimes companies are very short-sighted.

    $60 for the 120GB HDD and the ability to transfer all that's on our 20GB HDDs is the only way to go! Wake up Microsoft.

  • bigpimppapa

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 4:49 pm GMT

    They will milk a cow for all it is worth.

  • mariomusicmaker

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 3:27 pm GMT

    I got a used 1tb hard drive for 100 bucks a few days ago....
    lol makes the 100 for 60 gb seem kinda steep... but why do i care, i got an elete but yea i agree it is a rip off and you are and always be better off buying the one with the biggest HDD.

  • blackace

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 3:09 pm GMT

    Yeah.. the drives are too expensive, which is why I'm just going to get an Elite and sell my other XBox 360 sometime next year. M$ is obviously just trying to make extra profits for their gaming division. After the huge losses they had with the original XBox, they are trying make up for those losses. They could still do that without charging so much for the HDD. They could sell the 60GB for $69.99 and the $120 for $$119.99 and still make some money. You can get a 2.5" 60GB HDD for under $60 now. Memory is really cheap. We know it's only costing Microsoft about $55 or less for those 60GB drives including the casing. Stop ripping off your customers.

  • cybergooch

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:24 pm GMT

    phase4illini,

    I appreciate where your heart is coming from, but I don't agree completely. Because you have a limited budget, it doesn't make a price point "too much". When I was in school, I couldn't afford a new computer, so I scraped on together with some hand-me-downs and cheap components. It wasn't the best thing out there, but it let me enjoy playing SOME games that my friends were playing. Not having the money for a new hard drive sucks, but it hardly justifies the reason to lower a price. And if $179 was too much for the 120GB drive, it would have been lowered to a price that would sell (over 1 year with that SKU at the same price). The lack of a large HDD doesn't prevent people from enjoying gaming as a pastime, it just makes it more difficult to enjoy ALL the aspects.

  • theone86

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:15 pm GMT

    Even with the price drop the 120 is way too expensive. I can find a 200 GB computer hard drive for $10 less without even looking for the best deal.

    This is the one place where I feel kinda gypped by MS. I can deal with no Blu-ray support, sending in my bad 360 to be fixed, and paying for XBL, but paying this much for a hard drive is downright robbery. I don't mind paying for Live because it's such a great service, but when I can't utilize that service to its fullest because MS is gouging me on storage devices it makes that fee a little less tolerable.

  • cybergooch

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:15 pm GMT

    Dreadnought666,

    I can appreciate where you are coming from, because the PS3 does seem like a better deal if you compare hardware. I mean being able to replace the HDD with a laptop HDD is pretty sweet AND cost effective per gig. And a built-in Blu-Ray player and wireless support are really nice features to have on board. Don't forget the free on-line thing, cause well, it's free!

    But then reality hits. The PS3 actually comes with a 40gb HDD and you are adding another expense to replace it. The built-in wireless is still awesome, but Blu-Ray? Let's just say that I think the tech is "overstated" in it's significance to gameplay. And the on-line service being free? Well, most junior high football games are free to attend, but NFL games are, on the cheap side, around $35 a ticket. They are both football games and entertaining to watch; but the NFL will give you a more satisfying feel because of the content. I think anyone that has both services can attest to that. And let's face it, the really good games - you know, the ones people are talking about - they haven't really been hitting the Playstation like they have for the Xbox. That's not saying that the PS3 has NO AAA titles, just not in the frequency of the Xbox. Sure the Xbox has been oout longer, but the AAA titles have been with it ALMOST from the beginnning. R:FoM was really the best title on the 'Station for awhile and, well, it HAS been two years. If you buy your system for hardware specs, look no further than the PS3...it has definitely got the numbers. But if you want the better selevtion of games and content, I think the Xbox beats it hands down.

  • ctburesch

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:06 pm GMT

    This is good news for people looking to upgrade their Xbox. I am waiting for the price drop to get the 120gb. I currently own (2) 20gb models and they are both maxed out. Also the Xbox pwns the PS3 wayyyyyyy betttttter games and a wayyyy betttterrrr online service. The PS3 fanboys need to go on bout themselves....And I own one and reallly don't like pretty much anything about it. Oh they have like 3 exclusives. Good going Sony, Xbox has at least 10 that I can think of right now.

  • phase4illini

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:03 pm GMT

    @Cybergooch, those are hardly fair comments. There are a good number of people out there with very limited incomes that have as much right to enjoy gaming as a hobby (and get the most out of their system) as the next guy, and it's a pretty bad thing when those individuals are paying greatly inflated prices for a component that is sold standalone for PCs and other systems at half the price that MS is charging.

    @Angelsong, I have to say that when I first purchased my PS3 I had little intention of actually using the wifi, blu-ray, or HDD. But with the addition of a home network for my apartment, the price drop in blu-ray, and the mass of online content now available (not to mention all the music and videos I have added to my system), I cannot imagine having to pay more now for the separate components.

    The option to pick and choose features was really what MS was going for in releasing two separate systems when the 360 first hit the scene, and I don't consider it a bad thing. Unfortunately I think they really underestimated their hardware baselines and system features on both original releases, and now they're passing the cost of that mistake onto the consumer.

  • MrNib

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:02 pm GMT

    still not cheap or big enough, $1 for 3 gigs should be the standard for 120GB or higher

  • cybergooch

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:53 pm GMT

    A rip-off? Compared to what, the OTHER form of removable storage for the X360? I understand if you can't afford something, but it's far from a rip-off. If you haven't noticed, there are a lot of people with te old 20GB sku that would give their only begotten child (past of future) to updgrade to a larger HDD that didn't require buying a new Xbox.

    Draining you dry? Really? So, MS comes to your door with a gun and forces you to purchase everything that they sell? Two words "Don't Buy" (contraction makes it three) come to mind. But if you are easily cohersed into purchases, where was it you said you lived?

  • themyth01

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:47 pm GMT

    If the pro version which will retail comes with a 60GB already and goes for $300, then it's a pretty nice deal, however the stand-alone HDD is a ripoff. still the console itself will be nicely priced if it is as speculated.

  • AngelsongCA

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:47 pm GMT

    If there are features that you don't want or need on the PS3 then you're actually wasting money buying one. And, you have no options to prevent that. Flexiblity wins out in this respect.

    How much would a PS3 cost with no blu-ray, wifi, or harddrive? $200? That's how much money someone could save, but can't.

  • dreadnought666

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:40 pm GMT

    I just paid $99 for a 320gb hard drive for my PS3. MS is insane with regards to their pricing for their accessories. Doesn't the wireless adapter still cost $100. It costs a fortune bring a 360 up to par with the options that are available with the PS3. Bring on the blu ray add on, That way it will cost around $700 to have all the features.

  • artson1966

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:28 pm GMT

    @ronniepage588 Hey ronnie i guess you cant read. the first part of my commet was a quote from an other poster that was foolish to pay 100 bucks for an HDMI. where in this commet do you see me saying i myself paid 100 bucks for an HDMI? read before you guote someones words please. I also take great offence of being called a moron or an idiot as you can see by mis quoting me you your self make those words apply to you more then me or any other poster.

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