Microsoft reveals new life-to-date sales for aging console; Xbox Live membership up 15 percent in latest quarter.
Microsoft has now sold 70 million Xbox 360s across the world since the console launched in November 2005. The news comes by way of Microsoft's first quarter 2013 (July 2012-September 2012) financial report, which saw its Xbox division post total revenue of $1.95 billion, down just 1 percent from the prior year.
Microsoft sold 1.7 million Xbox 360s across the world during the period, down 600,000 units--or 29 percent--from this time last year.
Microsoft chief financial officer Peter Klein said the console market "continues to be challenged," and is thus forecasting a decline in revenue for the company's Entertainment and Devices division for the upcoming quarter. Single-digit growth, however, is expected for the full fiscal year.
A bright spot on Microsoft's sheet was Xbox Live. The company said Xbox Live membership was up 15 percent during the quarter, though a new user milestone figure was not announced. The latest Xbox Live user tally from April this year stood at 40 million. Microsoft said it continues to see the online platform as a "strength."
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I remember when Microsoft was sued, lost the trial, and had to extend the warranty from 1 year to 3 years. I'd have to agree half their sales are re-purchases, since I don't know a single person in my life that is still on their first 360. Not here to argue, just here to say sales figures mean nothing at this point in time, if none of the consoles had failed.. then they would still meaning something.
Although I'm glad to see the 360 is still successful, I'm ready for their next console. Hopefully it's b/c.
i bet they have way over 100 million sold if they cut xboxlive in half or just make it free
So let me get this right.... xbox is out selling the PS3 console, exclusives on xbox are out selling ps3 exclusives, and games that are on both consoles are selling better by up to 50% on Xbox..... sounds to me like the xbox is winning this on all fronts:)
its funny I dont understand how people are claiming that they have gone through '4' Xbox's what the hell are all you guys doing? using it as a trampoline?!
1 Like Ahhhh gotta love console wars..
I'm a PlayStation gamer but just the thought of 70million 360's in a pile is actually ridiculous to think of..
Imagine seeing 70million 360's stacked up in a mound.. that thing would be effin huge.
Fair play to Microsoft like.
1 Like Pretty impressive. Especially considering the lack of sales in japan. I'm suprised the newer contender managed to dominate the core market in NA. Although that's likely due to it's innovation in online and social gaming.
Makes me intrigued as to how next gen will work out.
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@CivilizedPsycho They've always had issues selling strongly over there. Even without Japan, Microsoft is doing great with the success of the 360. Maybe they'll finally figure out Japan with their next console. Doubtful, but they gotta try.
@godzillavskong @CivilizedPsycho
japan hates them. there isnt nothing they can do... maybe its they dont like to pay to play online. but even if it was free i really doubt they buy a american console
I decided to jump on here before going to bed and wow SONY FANBOYS GALORE!!!! Wonder why ohh waite sony has shit for games so they waste time bashing xbox and xbox gamers. Well fuck you and have a good night got to go to work pimping your sweet asses on 3rd street dont stay up to late you bitches need to make my money hahaha
1 Like The Millions and Millions of people who said "FU Microsoft" and switched to Playstation and will never go back to Shitbox" because MS can't be trusted are the real gamers who know the truth. Xbots who have had 3 or more RROD and are still supporting MicroShit are the ones who can't see the truth for what it is. Is quite sad if you ask me.
@BryanParksSuper Ive had my 2nd gen Xbox for like 4 years runs as if i bought it yesterday. (I Also own a PS3 and i still prefer the Xbox over it :P) ..Haters GONNA HATE!
@BryanParksSuper couldn't have said it better, i didn't switch i wanted both, had 4 360's linked for max enjoyment with my pals on halo,spent a fortune, not one lasted 6 months. I loved my 360 its a shame my hero Gatesy boy didn't give it the attention it needed. I ll just call upS.....AGAIN.
Seems like neck and neck competition between ps3 and xbox360. With PS3 launching 1 year later than xbox360 and behind almost a million, I think PS3 may win.
@Oldgun you seem to forget the playstation as a console is 5 years or so older and is in its 3rd generation while the xbox is in its second generation so its embarassing for the ps3 to steel have not caught up with the 360 given the head start the ps brand had
@steelmouth You're comment is confusing. You're comparing sales of 360 with sales of playstation as a brand. If that's the case then 360 is miles behind playstation as a brand let alone Xbox as a brand. Look up VGchartz if you have any doubts !
@steelmouth @Oldgun yeah cos they all red ringed !! isn't that embarrassing not to mention bad business. At least the PlayStation is stable. And im not digging at you bro just enjoying the entertaining discussion. iv had 4 they all went "pop" lost all trust in the company. :)
@steelmouth @deadmonkey76 @Oldgun i only bought a console because i spose growing up with consoles only and not really pc's ( daddy didn't believe they were the future as many didn't then as until jobs and gates changed all that) so we didnt get one until 486. Again they didnt really interest me i liked arcade style games then, i think now im, dare i say it a "more intelligent" so my gaming needs have changed. plus they just way in front, and now on some games i can use a pad, i potentially get the best of both.
1 Like @itchyflop @deadmonkey76 @Oldgun lol yah you have some major bad luck with consoles,stick to PC
@deadmonkey76 @steelmouth @Oldgun ahaha like it !! Your right Microsoft were very helpful indeed when all my 360's failed, i just got fed up with it all and after i paid around 600 quid for the first one, its not good enough. But hey im on my 3rd ps3 !!! im getting fed up with that now!! time to build a pc :)
least ms replaced their faulty 360s. for free i might add. for 3 years! my 60 gig ps3 is in my basement if you want that. sony wanted 150 plus shipping both ways to fix it. another thing i give ms credit for is. each time they released a new 360 sku. they did it to improve the 360 and make it safer and better.. when sony made new ones they did it to save money and strip features out of it. and to help stop pirates from burning games or blu ray movies. mean while they let all our credit card info easy to get hacked. i loved sony. they helped me get back into gaming with ps1.. but this gen i am at the point where i will not buy the ps4 till its under 250
2 Like Xbox Fangirls don't understand that Xbox 360 is a piece of shit. I have up on Shitbox over 4 years ago due 3 RROD's on 3 Seperate consoles. 1 I bought at Launch and 2 were replacements from them also RROD. So ya see Microshit is terrible. I will never buy anougher MS made console from them. It's all bout Sony and its powerful Playstation brand.
2 Like @BryanParksSuper We knew you would make your way in here. Anything positive , heck, anything about the 360 and your in the topic, spreading your disgust for it. Why bother? If you dislike it so much why waste your time going to articles about it? Seems like it would be exhausting.
1 Like It's more like 50 Million. MS counted the Millions apon Millions of Xbox 360's in the 1st 3 years that they sent to people around the world due to RROD and E74. as a Sale. If you ask me they can't do that.
1 Like @BryanParksSuper lol it's probably 30 million than. If they sold 70 million and only 40 million of them are online then yeah. Either that or the next xbox will lose 30 million customers if rumors are true and requires constant internet access.
7 Like To all the morons saying the 360 sold 23 million because people bought multiple ones due to the RROD. I have this to say. First off you know you are full of it & a fangirl. Because MS fixed those systems for free... UNLIKE SONY charging people $175 because they made a cheap console. Those were repairs, they wouldn't be considered sales. Secondly, apparently the 360 is that great of a console. People would buy it 2,3, or 4 times. Sit on that one fangirls. You want to make it a negative, but in reality it says a lot of people are willing to buy more then 2.
@CeZar_87 No, I bet those rebuys were mostly from Halo and Gears fans. We all know the loyal fanbases those two franchises have. They had no choice but to rebuy Xbox in order to play them.
@CeZar_87 ha!! good comment. i'm not aware of many Sony systems failing, do you have any figures ?? Yes Microsoft repaired the hardware for free, i think its a matter of how many went "bang" and the fact people don't trust them now. All hardware will fail eventually due to the nature of it (electrons and heat).
I welcome the day of super conductivity, fan-less everlasting small super computers that levitate due to the fields they create with no heat created, now that's cool.
were not haters id love another 360 i miss halo big time, but after buying several 360s and sending them away only to have the second one you bought in between go "pop" too. Come on you have to agree would you wanna buy another ?? its a shame halo is the best game ever. I have a wide knowledge of gaming and have or have every system with large amounts of games, ive played millions from the 70's, im not bigging me up just trying to emphasize the point, the 360 was so poor yet so good. When your misses cheats on you for the 4the or 5th time, a) you ve had enough b) you cant trust her, our systems are our life and we treat them like a lady, when that lady lets you down again and again...you get the point ?? :)
@Inferi-Fang haha i did leave !!! i did the same research and believe me i don't think just keeping it well ventilated was the issue, they're consoles designed to be used anywhere. I'm sure it wasn't in a confined space. i had many and they all went within a year of having each!! No one told me to keep my mega-drive well ventilated haha!!! though i see your point with more power comes higher cooling needs !! and yeah your right i had some blinding games but sadly didn't get to experience any newer ones, gears 2 was the last game i played b4 big red came along and ruined it all.
1 Like @itchyflop Well if my misses cheat on me once, I'd leave lol. OT, I can understand were your coming from. My 2007 model rrod on me. I did some research online, found out ms could replace it for free. I still got my replaced 360 and it works like a charm. My first 360 rrod on me because I didn't keep it well ventilated(not to mention my room heats up pretty fast). When I got my new one, I took better care of it. I know the 360 has its problems, but I wish people would acknowledge that it's still a great console with a really good library of games.
1 Like @CeZar_87 Please it is possible for it to RRod after warranty. Especially when it was originally 90 days, than a year, then 3 years. As you can see they changed it a few times throughout its lifetime and some people decided to buy a new 360 instead of getting it repaired out of warranty (which MS would eventually reimburse with their new warranty). Also at the time it didn't cover the E74 error so they were out of luck for a time as well so they payed to repair or bought new console.
Also I can't believe you took a shot at the PS3 being cheaply made especially considering It didn't have 2 different ways to fail, RROD and E74, that contributed to something like a 30-40% fail rate...
I need someone elses opinion here, i have the 360 pro, and it's getting old, the disc tray doesn't work anymore and i have literally no memory left on it either. So i was thinking about getting the 360 slim to replace it, but then i heard rumors of the 720 coming out in the near future. So should i stake it out with the one i have now, or go out and buy the slim?
@246824682468 the 720 will probably arrive November 2013. how much is it to get your tray repaired ??
@246824682468 Microsoft hasn't confirmed that there is a 720 in development. This is likely because they want to keep selling 360s.
Honestly it just matters how screwed up your disc tray is and how much you play. If you can still play games but don't play them often, I'd stick it out. If you're a gamer and the tray can still play games, I'd get a new one.
the xbox 360 is a better console than the ps3...congrats xbox...
but next gen comes soon and we will have a battle once again...who will win this time?
1 Like @itchyflop the online is better...how? you can record voice messages, cross game chat, updates and installs that take 5 sec. i prettier looking gui.that makes it easier to buy stuff.the PS gui looks boring and hard to navigate... PS has mandatory installs that take 15min to play your games...the controller analog stick placement is more comfortable on xbox..it's awkward on ps3...achievements were invented on xbox..trophies always syncing for 5min everytime you check them... most games are made with the 360 in mind and then just ported to the ps3... i can go on.. it's a better system....ps3 is just a blu-ray player.
@itchyflop @thebeachguy90 you don't need 2 gold accounts to play splitscreen..look here http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1257448-do-both-players-need-xbox-live-gold-to-play-split-screen/
you just need to make a new silver account.
xbox live gold is the cost of 1 game a year... i have no problem paying because i now i am having a superior online experience compared to psn... if you don't want to pay it then that's your choice.
i cant compare xbox live and psn? because i have to pay for one and the other is free? i guess your admitting xbox live is better...which it is.
@thebeachguy90 i think people are missing the point Microsoft haven't won yet ??? and us "Sony fan boys" don't pay for any service allowing us to buy more products and have a wider gaming experience for nothing??? 2 player online split screen on one box costs $120 ?? you can't compare a pricing service (however good it is) to one that isn't, if i wanna play world of war craft and pay a subscription to play it that's my choice, Microsoft don't give you one. So how can you compare the two ?? bill gates didn't make his fortune without being a ruthless shrewd business man, and he's hooked gamer's like this in !! for that i respect the man, my fkn hero (other than Wozniak and jobs).
@KBFloYd and the generation war hasn't finished yet !! the new 720 and ps4 won't be here until mid next year !! im not a fan boy either i ahve all and i mean all consoles from 1977 and a few others like amiga's commadore 64,16, vic 20 do you want me to continue. I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT, that was fun thanks
@KBFloYd yeah one more game than you do a year, luckily the only company charging!!!??? ha yeah luckily they make you pay for each user to use their facilities on one box cos they ain't ripping you off, and no one else is charging!! i think this discussion has run its course, i don't see how you can compare a service your pay for to one you don't. I welcome your respect and enthusiasm towards microsoft, and i dunno if i told you i had 4 360's linked up, not to mention the 4 originals linked with halo 2 before!! your argument is void, Sony isn't necessarily the better company but they don't make you pay PER USER ON ONE MACHINE for anything. If you wanna pay 60$ a year and who ever else uses your machine more fool you, ill buy a decent game with the money and browse my service for free thanks. no disrespect dude, oh and its been emotional haha!! keep gaming bro :)
Yea, Xbox might have the edge in social features but in terms of online gameplay,it's no different, that is the main reason we go online after all. so I can see why some don't see the hype about XBL. And so what if people think Sony won this generation? Some like Xbox, some like PS3, that's the way it's always been and always will be. Foolish how you're trying to shove Xbox down people's throats.
@itchyflop its 60$ for a year in the USA which is the same as buying 1GAME a year..how many games do you buy a year for your ps3?...if all 3 companies were charging this then i would simply choose the company with the best online service... luckily the only person charging is microsoft which coincidentally has the best online but you just can't admit it....typical sony fanboys dancing around the question....here is another question...who won this generation? lol if you say sony i'm done... you guys are delusional.
@KBFloYd so just to play onlne you have to pay 40 quid per player. and you think that's good?? u should be getting a better service, ha i bet gatesy boy is laughing all the way to his already billions in the bank and your one sucker he has!! i can't wait for your response.
@KBFloYd come on keep up with the conversation, no i'm not!! my point and im only focussing on gaming here not any other service provide is you and anyone else playing SPLIT SCREEN on one unit is paying 80 quid minimum annual subscription. Its different from sony's that's all except we don't pay a nickle!! your arguements flawed from that basis alone, how can you compare a service payed for and one that isn't. I believe you get a free film service like a netflix type thing. If i was full of crap i'd be a shit demon, now feel my wrath !!
@itchyflop let me see how full of crap you are...
you do admit the online is superior service on the xbox 360 right?
@KBFloYd not forgetting your annual subscription PER PLAYER/ USER to allow you to use all the services. i will agree on the annoying install times on ps3. The pad design is better on the ps3 sorry, after 360 controller in my hand then ps its smaller and less clunky !! when you say cross game chat i assume both parties have different games running ?? Some games are made solely for each console, i dunno about them being made for Xbox then ported over ?? being prettier looking doesn't warrent a point in your favour, easier to navigate, no its just different. The ps3 is a blu has blu ray potential yes and at the time they were horrendously priced (like the fkn dvd's now) so we get an entertainment system capable of running and playing at the same capacity as the box !! There are good points for each, its preference of taste. If i sttill had my box (i won't go down the route everyone does with ups !!) or my 2nd or 3rd (see my point there) i would find, infact i remember finding all aspects of the Sony machine uncomfortable for a while. I have to agree however without the failings weve had with the box it is more user friendly and has some really good games. ha brilliant bro, keep gaming :~0
@KBFloYd Depends on what better means. Hardware wise it definitely wasn't better due to failure rates. Kinect is better, but it lacks BluRay. IMHO what makes (or made) it better was the software. Loved the old Dashboard, and hate the new one personally. Think there was winners/losers all around, with WII being the clear winner (albeit not best console IMHO) as it sold more and made money on each unit it sold.
Microsoft says this marks the 24th consecutive month in which the console has come out on top; 1.4 million consoles sold in December.
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