there is nothing wrong with consoles. I own a xbox 360, PS3 and a PC and i love all 3. they all have there advantages and disadvantages. I use both controller and mouse n keybord for the pc it just depends on what your comfortable with.
Ubisoft creative director recommends controller over mouse-and-keyboard setup for Windows version of upcoming stealth action game.
Ubisoft wants gamers to play the PC version of Assassin's Creed III not with a mouse-and-keyboard setup, but with a controller. Speaking to GameSpy, Assassin's Creed III creative director Alex Hutchinson remarked that the optimal PC experience will be through a controller input.
"We're definitely supporting PC, we love PC, but I think it'll be PC with a controller," he said. "I don't see us investing hugely in a mouse and keyboard setup. I think if you want to play on PC and you want to play Assassin's Creed, you have a controller."
Assassin's Creed III is due out in North America for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Wii U, and PC on October 30, with a European debut scheduled for Halloween. The game is set during the Revolutionary War in Colonial America, with players taking on the role of Native American assassin Connor.
For more on Assassin's Creed III, check out GameSpot's latest preview.
fuck their controller ! keyboard and mouse owns ! the damn things are part of the PC ...anyone who says that controllers are better is clear that they are retarded ...fuck Ubisoft cuz of this also† ,they just want to make ya'll want to buy a lame ass console instead
@slainta Desktop PCs use mouse and keyboard as the default input device (there are far more desktop PC configurations than a mac or laptop PC) I meant 'true' PC gamer as a PC gamer that uses their actually PC to play games with the standard input devices for desktop computers (i.e. mouse and keyboard, which the vast majority of PC gamers use, not laptops - so your the minority PC gaming community). If you compare the total number of PC gamers, the vast majority would use mouse and keyboard (85 to 95%) the remaining 5 to 15% would be laptop gamers such as yourself (on either mac or pc). Everyone that I know who has an alienware laptop of any laptop for gaming also has a wireless mouse aswell. Probably 5% of desktop PC gamers and 20% of laptop gamers actually use some form of dedicated controller. If you actually calculate the real numbers (mine are educated guesses) you will still see that the total number of PC gamers using a controller is the VAST minority. Thus making a VERY VERY SMALL MARKET for this game to exist on the PC at all. There are advantages of using a mouse/keyboard combo, and there are certain circumstances where a controller may be better (sports games etc), but Ubiosft is LIMITING the target consumer base by not providing a game such as this with mouse and keyboard support. That is the underlying issue here. Its not a matter of if PC gaming was first or is better, or any of that nonsense. The PC is a gaming Platform, and Ubisoft is taking away the fundamental basic control system that the majority of PC gamers use. By recommending a controller to play on a PC is essentially saying there is very little incentive to get the game at all for that platform. At that point its the same as any console.
@YoungCardinal I brought up the trackpad argument because the mouse is not anymore the default input device for home computers (let's say PCs?). Still used by the majority, but not mandatory. At that point a PC gamer may well buy a controller instead of a mouse. This especially true for Mac users, since an Apple mouse costs and absurd amount of money (like many Apple products, I know). Then sorry, i don't buy the elitist crap about "true" PC gamers. If I did I should state that true gamers play on console and with a controller, since it is how videogames became popular. I really don't know how so many PC gamers got the wrong notion that videogaming started on PC. On the early arcade machines for sure I wasn't playing Space Invaders or Pac-Man with an ugly keyboard!!
@slainta Why bring up the trackpad at all then. This article is about lack of mouse and keyboard for a PC port. If PC gamers wanted to use a controller they would just play the game on a console. Also, a true PC gamer, very few (like 1% of actual PC gamers) actually have some sort of controller. By neglecting the mouse and keyboard on the PC platform your are literally abandoning the PC community. Developers complain that there is no PC market forr games (claim largely due to piracy - but thats not ture). The reality is the PC commmunity stands up for what they believe in. We don't buy lousy PC ports of console games. The top pirated games on PC (look at Crysis 2) was the most pirated game for a reason. Developers focused on the console as the primary platform and neglected first-day support for DX11 and several other PC advantages. That pisses off the PC community; and that's exactly what Ubisoft is doing this time by announcing this. The damage was already done for Crysis 2, so releasing the DX11 patch months afterwords was too little too late for many. Its this type of mindset that fustrates PC gamers. Cause we all know what will inevitably happen, Ubisoft will claim that the game was pirated too much, or sales were lower than expected and thus be less motivated for developing for the PC platform.
No sh*t? It's not like the previous games were better with a mouse and keyboard anyway. This is a straight up console port, you'd be insane to try and play it with the K&M. Also, saying you love the PC players, and then saying that if you want to play the game on PC at all you need a console controller sounds a little backwards to me.
slainta. no offence but your comment is absolutely asinine. I walk circles around most controller friends I know. The ones who say controllers are soooo much better than keyboards are simply the ones who can't use keyboards. You obviously don't have the dexterity to use one. I've beaten every AC, along with tons of shooters and action with nothing more than a keyboard. The fact that you like a trackpad is proof enough not to listen to you, and yes, I am stubborn. Very stubborn.
"We Love PC" trolololololoolololololoololololololooololo 2 months prior, you're saying; "More than 90% of our customers are going to pirate it anyways" Just do yourself a favor Ubisoft. Stop being hypocrites, and gtfo of the pc scene and stop being something that you will never be. Grab your balls and tell it the way it is, otherwise, people are just gonna keep spitting away.
"We love PC"? Bullcrap, you guys make the worst PC ports i've ever seen that are laden with crappy DRM. I couldnt even play my retail copy of AC2 without using a crack cause it couldnt connect to their server.
@The_Mighty_KELP @YoungCardinal Seriously guys, did you read my comment? The trackpad is superior to run OS X. Not the games! I am not that retarded, The point is that many Mac users won't buy a mouse anymore, so they will rather invest on a controller for games. In any case let me put this straight: the keyboard is the most horrific input device for fast games with complex moves, unless one is an octopus. It has not been designed for gaming. It's also unhealthy. The gamepads instead have been studied to be intuitive and give the most possible comfort. To keep denying that is pretty stubborn.
@Tidal_Abyss Good one! You're right there, the Witcher 1 was great keyboard and mouse action at the time, and even though the sequel's combat blows it out of the water now, I can remember staying up till all hours to get all the quests done in that game. The Witcher 1 and 2 are both two of my favorite and most played RPGs, second only to Oblivion/Skyrim in my book. =)
jagcivtec, not true. I watched people play gta 3 and laughted at them. I blew past those missions in under half the time with tons less problems then my controler buddies. Have you ever tried Serious Sam of Painkiller for the pc. Those are both fast and furious games with heavy maneuver requirements. Finished them all with kb m. No problems. Theres not a game made that has a good kb m setup that I can't destroy. Controlers are fine but my keyboard trackball set up is just as good and I've proved it many times. It's just extra time and work for them, so they don't want to do it, fat, lazy bast___s. In the end it's just cheaper to only have to worry about one style, and we all know it's all about the money, not what's best for the gamers.
Like i said, Kb and M works good for precision in aiming or selecting, worthless for maneuvering, like my personal preference are open world, 3rd person action, platforming and other maneuver critical games which are not so focused on shooting or selecting like 3rd person shooters, RTS games etc, then a controller is the best choice for me. I mainly play console and only play PC exclusives like ARMA 2, World in Conflict and other greats that are PC only, and I do use M and KB. These are games that can be played so, but a game like GTA is a controller optimal game.
The previous chapters were obvious console ports in terms of UI, but I didn't have any issues with my keyboard and mouse setup. I surely hope the control scheme won't be excessively altered with this one.
LOL @mrmime777 -Prepare to eat your hat :) O.K. you said 3rd person without shooter element- you also said 'action'- this is action/rpg but still the 'action' sequence of the game is what matters here- The Witcher (the first Witcher- the fighting mechanism is completely different than the second witcher so you can't go by the 2nd game's footage- actually, don't go by footage at all- go by the gameplay for yourself). I own/have played both. I don't even know if the first supports controller but in the options you can use only mouse or mouse/keyboard.
Gomtor, if knowing what I like is a dinosaur mentality, then call me T-Rex baby. I know what I like and I sure know what I don't like. You know, some games are better with a horse and wooden mallet, but I think I'll stay with my keyboard thank you. HaloHitman- your question is easy. Consoles are a tool of the devil, and I'm a religious man. See. Easy.
jagcivtec, I've blown away so many controlers it's not funny. It's not the controler, but the person using it. The only thing I would prefer a controler for is a sports game. Other than that, keyboard rules. I play action, rpg's, shooters. What ever my little heart desires, and all with keyboard and I can't say mouse cause I prefer my thumb trackball. With it I have more control than a controler and don't have to move anything but my thumb. Mfman14, have you ever played a bad console port? Controls are sluggish or just not responsive. It really sucks and ruins the game. This is why people like Alex Hutchinson need to pull their head out of their arse. The honest truth is they are just getting fat and lazy. They want the cheapest, easiest way out. He was probably the kid who always got their butterballs kicked, cause he was such worthless little s____s. Just a observation based off how much I'ld like to kick his butterball for making such an assassinine statement, and no, I don't have anger problems. Come on be honest. Don't you think he'ld look much better with a flat nose and bigger lips. Maybe alittle darkening of the eyes. I do. Just saying.
@jagcivtec let's play a first person shooter together, you with a controller and i with keboard and mouse. you try and play solitaire with a controller.
what are you talking about, man? i played all the assassin's creed games with an xbox 360 controller. either that or breacking my pinky on the shift button. and you guys with the k&m obsession, what's with you? the guy just said it's optimal with a controller. if you don't like that, play with whatever you played before. it's not a huge groundbreaking technology this. porting? what are you talking about? probably the easiest thing in a game is to slap on the same old keyboard and mouse configuration, even in porting from a console. are you guys really serious about this? this guy sais "I don't see us investing hugely in a mouse and keyboard setup" and you're all upset over this. he's drunk. all we need is to be able to set up the mouse speed best suited and that's all the setup he needs to invest in, and i don't think that's a huge money consumer.
Assassin's Creed's keyboard and mouse controls have always been useless--the game is just built for a controller, and it works great. This was a dumb comment on his part, but not really news. I've played most of the games on the PC, but have always used a controller whenever possible.
Guys, third person action games have never played well with keyboards. I'll eat my hat if anyone can show me just one (without a shooting element) that played better with K+M than controller. This is nothing new! Ubisoft just happened to say what has been true for Assassin's Creed since the beginning.
@Mfman14 Because us PC users are used to being screwed over, so we're detecting undertones of what he's saying. Maybe it's a jump to conclusions, but considering what's happened so many times with console ports in the past, we have reason to be suspicious. As it stands, it sounds more like BS, just beating around the bush. A nice way of saying they don't want to take the time to develop a proper UI for PC users. Rather they would like to just make a quick port from the consoles, and not take the time to make sure the game functions correctly with the mouse and keyboard. Furthermore, I PREFER a mouse and keyboard for Assassin's Creed games, so unless they do something to drastically change the controls, I have no reason to switch to a controller, because I've been enjoying it as it is. And I have tried both. If they limit my option to customize my controls, I'm going to be pissed.
Non the mouse or the keyboard were made specifically for gaming, and although it does make for a precise point and selection instrument its just counter-intuitive and clumsy for maneuvering characters, vehicles, etc in a viable way. The controller is the instrument precisely made for gaming and its intuitive and simple to use, even if precision is decreased. Why would someone say that a device made to type is superior for gaming than a controller engineered specifically for that purpose? It is not so.
@slainta This is what you said: "As you can guess I have a Mac. No need for the bleeding mouse anymore. The Apple trackpad is much superior to run OS X (and soon Windows 8" I was simply saying that while you may not see the use for a mouse, Many Gamers do (thats the relevance to this article from Ubisoft). For many games, its hard or uncomfortable to play a game using a trackpad. There is absolutely a extremely small market of PC gamers who would now buy this game if it requires a controller. Many prefer the mouse and keyboard combo, including myself, and i don't see the point of buying a game if they can't properly port the game using the standard input methods of a PC. If it only works with a controller, then you might as well just get it for console...Which shows the Ubisoft doesn't care for the PC gaming community.
I don't see why people are raging and acting like they said you can only play AC3 with a controller. Optimal means that it is just the better experience they think. You do have a choice so why pass up a possibly great game over a suggestion.
Scarab83 they also said that they wont be putting any effort into keyboard mouse either which means it's probably going to have really pathetic controls. They want people to play with a controller. To much work for there lazy bottems to make it optimized for both. In other words a true console port.
jagcivtec I've beaten all gta games with keyboard mouse and kick booty with them. As for mobility and the like. Got all I need with K&M. Blown many of controller off the map with it. Boy do I hate controllers. Haven't used one on a regular basis in over 10 years, and believe me, I sure as heck won't go back either. So they can kiss my untanned backside. Oh yeah, also beaten all the AC games with KM as well. Long live the revoluton. Viva la keyboard.
@Crash_WL For me the witcher 2 was a fantastic game and i loved it BUT i dispised it with controller compared to K/M That is why a game should support both not attempt to ram a controller down our throats. As for the pirating just because its easy to do does not mean everyone does it. I own a pc repair company and we also do electronic repair consoles phones etc pirating for either pc or consoles now is pretty elementary. I love my consoles and my PC but mostly game on my pc as its a huge hobby for me and the sheer amount of games i buy makes its more viable i have a high grade pc and buy so many games that the initial investment of around £700 to build a good gaming pc compared with my cheaper consoles is quickly passed due to the pc game to console game price tags. but pc gamers are bound to be feeling sour if we are forced to play with a controller just as console gamers will be sour if this news about the next gen consoles games being linked to an account and unable to be resold or lent to friends yet to a pc gamer we are used to it and expect product keys. If that console news is true i see pirating becoming just as well known on console as with pc.
They're not screwing you in any way. All he said was that it's OPTIMAL to use a controller. Keep using your mouse and keyboard if you want.
I wont get the game then. I am a keyboard mouse player and if they want to screw us, then screw them. Wont buy it. They've been getting really stale as of late anyway. Seems to me that they're getting as bad as EA about caring what the people want and only do what cheapest and easiest. Wont go well. There are alot of keyboard mouse players out there. This is what happens when a company gets fat and lazy.
So basically they are saying--we ain't spending the money or time to port the game properly, @#$% you very much.
Some of my pc games just play better with a controller, some dont. Dont shoot yourself in the foot by being stuck on old dinosaur ideas.
@Scarab83 - I know and it means absolutely nothing to me. Not sure what I said to suggest otherwise.
This is hardly ground breaking news - I've always preferred a controller for third person sandbox games like this. The AC series just doesn't require the pin-point control offered by kb&m because it's been designed with console gamers in mind.
@Jag Speak for yourself, really. It's fine if it works for you that way, but it's not how it is for all gamers, and they should be able to choose--precisely because it's a PC game. I've enjoyed GTA games--from III, Vice City, San Andreas, and especially IV--with mouse and keyboard just fine. So for you to say, "you'll have a very poor performance indeed," is just silly, because that's not the case for all gamers. You shouldn't generalize. Controller or mouse and keyboard, both work fine. But the gamer should be allowed to choose.
Never had a problem playing AC games with a mouse and keyboard. I think what Ubi is saying here is that we have not bothered to make decent controls for the PC and are just making a crappy port.
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