Pro Evo kicks FIFA off the UK top spot

that proves my comment that this year's Fifa wasn't as close as good and improved like 2008 was, Fifa 2009 just do the same and even got downgraded viasually, improvemwents on Gameplay can't justify everything, as Fifa 2008 was already the best Soccer game Ever, just to be topped I believe by Konami's this years installment

there is nothing to argue bout ... PES 09 is more relistic futball game then fifa i can probably name 99 reasons why.... pleasee ask me whyy... fifa it has great graphics but its tooooo aricady... its not a real futball game its a aricade futball gamee.. i couldn't play that if i was high.. but it looks like pes has pretty good graphics tooo this year and finally they fixed bugs... commee on we are talking bout konami vs ea .. u cant compare cuz just loook at the madden thats what ea calls best football game in the world.. its sucks another aricade sports game look at the need for speed another aricade gameee... they don't know how to make realistic gamess... they aree tooo nurdy in that company.. they seem like they never watched any sportss in there lifess... they got there own point of view when it comes to sports ... hehhehehe

Gamespot review gave PES 09 7/10.Konami need to do better next year.

to djezhel619..come on..start ur argument if u r so smart...

planbfreak4eva sounds to me like your bs'ing about everything your saying you dont even believe yourself buddy... quit the bullsh*t then put up a good argument with me, i dont got time for little amatures :)

Didn't expect that a Futbol game would be the number one game out of all. Not that I'm complaining.

ps3 domiantes in other countries, they jus got a take control in japan and u.s.

i played both games fifa came out first so i thought i give a chance.. playd it for 3 months fifa 08 and couldn't do it any more.. it wasn't exciting at all.. it was boring.. i didn't buy the game to look at the players cuz they look good.. i bought the game to play it and enjoy it.. then i went to pes 08 and i was upset with what they did slowin down and all the bugs but u know what i still play it cuz its exciting and game play always brings something new to the table.. so def im gonna go this year with pes 09.. i love champions league i was happy bout that and love the game play cuz its more real if u watch a futball game and then u play fifa ... u be like this is trash when u watch a futball game and u play pes it will put a smile on ur face.. or sometimes u will get mad cuz u loose.. i cant wait till it comes out on ps3 here in florida.. i will be ur challenge on on line.. lol i ll im trying too say 4 all yo that like fifa go right ahead and play cuz wee that loveeeeeee pes will enjoy it.. u hardly see ant pes 08 used cuz pll that buy them they play them fifa 08 is going for 10 dollars hehhehehe its like tampon u use it ones and get rid of it .. hehehehehhehehe PES IS THE BEST

yeah thts wht im talking about pes pes yr the best

Lol @ people saying it's very easy to score in Fifa 09. Isn't that the case if you're - gee I don't know - used to playing football games? U act like the sport was created last year. Same applies to PES. If it was a harder game to score in, people would be saying that. But they're not. If u like Fifa - you've most probably already got it. If you like PES - same scenario. And if you don't like the games, then trade em in for something else, rather than coming onto a webpage to bicker about it all... And in terms of difficulty, difficulty settings are there to create a giant form of realism. So unless you're playing on the hardest settings, using every tactic the game has to offer to your advantage, your complaints about difficulty or lack thereof are pointless.

I'm sticking to PES this year because the team mate AI is a lot smarter than in FIFA. The way they make use of spaces, go for the ball and the way they understand passes makes PES a joy to for me play. It feels like they actually understand the way the game works and doesn't feel like your playing a computer game as much as it used to. PES feels more like the real thing to me. To me FIFA still feels like a computer game complete with AI that doesn't seem to understand what it's supposed to do unless you tell them to. My main complaint though is that the AI doesn't seem as smart in the be a legend mode as it is in the regular games. FIFA 09 is a good Football game, but Pro evo just feels better to me. It fits my play style better.

To be honest even though i like Fifa this year more than PES i would not want either to corner the market, as it benefits us the gamer to have this rivalry between PES and Fifa developers competing to make the better game.

I have been a fan of both from the start but Pro Evo was always the game me and my friends played most, but over the last 2 years we have gradually started to play fifa more and since pes 09 came out we all decided that fifa 09 was easily the better football game and that was coming from some hardcore pes fanboys that just finally had to admit that PES lack of innovation is just not acceptable. I still read allot of PES is more realistic, nonsense we are all massive football fans that also play and fifa 09 is the most realistic football game on the market, some people have said its to easy to score when infact it's not, rarely do we have a game vs or online that gets 3-4 goals its mainly 2-1/1-0 etc. I love pes but konami's constant milking is beyond a joke, they have still really not built a next gen engine from the ground up, its just minor iteration after minor iteration, it still uses canned animations also, fifa on the other hand has finally delivered on the potential there next gen engine has showed over the last year or two.

to djezhel619...haha very funny..i play on 50 inch pioneer full hd tv..and i played the games..and if u dont think that fifas pitch looks blurry and aweful..then u r a really blind fanboy of fifa..i played on hard difficulty and i was scoring like i was playing against a baby...my vote goes to pes2009...

Get in there!

How sad to see many are still sticking to PES just because of the name itself or the loyalty. Very smart of PES to use "PES unites", indeed fans have united and come to buy PES2009, but only to find out it's half-baked. Sorry, but fifa09 is easily the better game, reason why u see PES having more sales is because people are misleaded by IGN reviews and also, fanboys who buy the game out of loyalty.

I have also played both of them. I played Fifa 09 first and thought it was pretty good.. but.. I later played Pro evo 2009 and went back to Fifa and saw just how slow Fifa 09 plays, even though they have increased the game flow. I agree with another person, it is alot easier to score on Fifa 09. When I was playing Pro evo 2009 I shot at the goalkeeper four times in a row, even with a mid air bicycle kick and I couldn't score. Also, I've noticed how teams play differently too, I was playing against Barcelona with Man U, and Barcelona played very well. On the opposite scale.. I played Stoke with Man U and found them relatively easier because of the quality of the players. Also, the colours are beautiful on Pro evo, look at the reds of Man U or the blue of Italy, or the yellow of Barcelona. I played one team in the champions League, who were wearing purple; the colour looked beautiful. When I played Stoke with Man U, I played for 10mins each way.. I won 4-0... So.. for a laugh, to hear the funny commentaries; I thought I'll try and get a 10-0 victory using 30mins each way. Stoke played really well at the beginning and I only won 5-0. I wanted to hear the commentary.. This is a white wash, this is one sided, or its' now 10 nil. I couldn't do it though. :) One positive thing I will say about Fifa though, is the position of your players when a cross is put into the box. I found it easier to move my player using the speed button to position myself better for a header. In the end though, my vote goes for Pro Evo 2009, more fun, a better game.

Every year i buy both and trade in one,this year PES is going back.Fifa is ahead of PES in the critic and user scores.The only reason PES is ahead of Fifa in the Charts is because its new,end of.

I tried both FIFa 09 and PES 09 demos, I would go with FIFA 09, as PES have just a slight advantage in fluid gameplay, but the advantage ends there.

I've played both PES09 and Fifa09 demos and I do think Fifa has improved it's gameplay, it's getting there. I used to be a Fifa fan til 2000 and I switched to Pro Evolution because of the realistic and fun gameplay. Fifa has gone downhill til 08. PES better improve otherwise it will lose it's fans. At this moment in time i'm still with PES. But in a couple of years who knows!! I'm still waiting for my PES09, bought it for £27 from Asda online on the release date, now the price is £35.

Fifa plays like a nike advert portrays footy everyones first touch is immaculate the ball moves around the pitch at 100mph and you cleanly strike the ball towards goal from any angle. Pro evo is much more a simulation as players are prone to missed placed passes miss kicks poor fist touches etc. FIFA just isn't real football its an idealistic view.

FFS fanboy city! If you like fifa buy it and play it. If you like PES buy it and play it.

Footy games usually hit number 1 spot upon release, it's the national game. I'm sure Konami will be content, comparitively their marketing was very low key compared to EA and Fifa 09. But three weeks is a long time in gaming and anyone who was interested in Fifa 09 would've bought it by now. Be interesting to see how they both fair at Christmas to see which one has the edge.

you gotta laugh, "euro96" says true simulation wins in the end. Played both these games and Fifa is still unrealistic and an arcade game. Pro Evo much more of a simulation. You obviously havent played either, of if you have, you were stoned at the time, pro is stuttery, stiff and slower then its ever been, and to call fifa an arcade game is a joke, Fifa 09 is amazing, i know so many evo fans, hardcore evo fans as well that have ditched evo this year and said it was dissapointing, own goal cored by konami methinks this year.

means nothing fifa has been out coming on 3 weeks now of course a half decent game is gonna go in at number one ahead of it. Especiallly considering it sold 1.2 million in its first week sales. So sorry Euro 96 pro certainly has not won as the final sales figures will show pro has lost many a fan after its last 2 diabolical attempts at a realistic football game

True simulation wins in the end. Played both these games and Fifa is still unrealistic and an arcade game. Pro Evo much more of a simulation.

I'm a bigger FIFA fan

And for the record, PES still plays like its old International Superstar Soccer DX back in the SNES days, always will be a more arcade-like fun experience for those who dont have the patience or coordination to play a game as deep as FIFA 09.

To planbfreak4eva... I have FIFA 09 and i havent seen a slide tackle that doesnt look realistic, incase you didnt know, when a actual player that is running at some speeds gets all of a sudden tackled, yeah they do get pretty messed up... and talk about goal scoring, well sorry buddy that you played the game on amature, try some of the higher levels, in FIFA 09 you do fight for the ball if you really know how to, i already played PES, it is arcady, you dont even know the difference kiddo. Oh the pitch is too blurry and the shoes look like rectangles lol, ok, i never seen any of that... mustve been some really messed up HDTV you got over there ;)

to Kyran87....what realism are u talking about in fifa?i borrowd fifa of a friend..and i bought pes2009...and i did not see any realism in fifa....and how can ppl say graphics are better in fifa09...maybe the replay is better....but the pitch..come on........the pitch is all blurry..the players shoes look like rectangle..and i play on hd tv...and the game just looks like last gen...and u saying that pes09 is arcady...in fifa u slide tackle someone and they fly like couple of meters..it looks more like a car hit a person...and when the other team has possesion of the ball..in fifa u r so much faster..and u can catch the person even if u r really far away..and dont get me started about scoring the goals...because the goals..are being scored like every second.because its too fake..pes2009 is much more real...its pitch and players looks good..when u r running and trying to get the ball..u actually fight for it...which makes it more competetive..and scoring goals..is much more realistic...u might score 3 goals...but in fifa u will score 10..in the same period of time...

Wow! Soccer fans can't be serious. PES games are terrible! I have played the two and compared them as well, and PES 09 is not as realistic as FIFA 09. The UK must be retarded.

I have Fifa 09 for the X360 and it is indeed a masterpiece. When i see PES 2009 although i've played the demo i think is more a multiplayer game than single player, because of the gameplay. I still might get Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 since i like the pro games and had everyone from pro 1 to 08 except the pro evo management game. so far i have every fifa from 2000-08, although i did have fifa international soccer, 95, 98 and 99.

i`ve got both games and fifa is`nt a patch on the new pro ....all you fifa fans should play teletubbies soccer or something because pes is a real FOOTBALL game

Also I just want to clear this up to some of you ignorant PES fanboys who refuse to understand that FIFA=Realistic simulator PES=Arcade simulator

What's the point? This is obvious....... FIFA 09 was released 3 whole weeks before PES 09

give me a thumbs up if you're buying fifa09 this year and you also love football/soccer!!!

pro sucks fifa 09 rules

LOL!WHAT THE!?!...My earlier comment,WOW!one day after released and it already knocked off FIFA and it got a -3.That's funny because all I did was just stating the facts.

Fifa 09 is revolutionary this year, am a big PES fan...but FIFA 09 was something else.... and am pretty sure PES 09 have only updated transfers list. nothing much they stopped even improving players abilities anymore... KONAMI HIRE NEW DEVELOPERS TEAMS FOR GOD SAKE WE DON'T WANT TO PLAY FIFA BUT UR LETTING US DO THIS...

no offense to anyone, both games have made little changes in gameplay for years. gameplay-wise FIFA has always and still suxx. When are they going to work on their damn ball physics. also, FIFA loves you license whores.

no offense to anyone, but ummm, allot of the people that buy this game are clueless chavs. fifa is much better, pro was better back on the ps2, now its laughable.

If I care to mention - that it's because of the fact that it's Pro Evo. It has a name for itself. Therefore people will be loyal to what they're used to. Fifa doesn't have that great of a following due to the fact that people are too quick to shut it down based on it's realism - in comparison to Pro Evo's arcade approach... I'm neutral when it comes to Fifa and Pro Evo - always. But just because a game is number 1, doesn't mean it has every reason to deserve being there. Fifa pulled something BIG out of the bag this year. Screenshots mean nothing. I'd rather play a bad looking game with great gameplay than a flawlessly looking game that's terrible. Fifa won this year. No question. Don't believe me? Test them both - based on gameplay - not on graphics. I don't care if Wayne Rooney doesn't look right - if he doesn't act like Rooney in-game then in my eyes they've failed. In my opinion - nothing - I repeat - nothing - beats the addition of Adidas Live League. But - let's see what the critics say about Pro in their reviews.

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Both good games :D

By the same time next year they'll both be in the bargain bin for less than a tenner, so I'll pass. Bring on Rock Band 2 please.

WOW!...one day after the release and it already knocked off FIFA.

I played both demo.FIFA's not bad but doesn't compare to PES.

It seems that over the years PES/Winning Eleven became more arcade-like while FIFA slowly became more realistic. I remember WE6 was amazing though back on the PS2.Hell Gamespot even gave the game a 9. Too bad the series isn't as good now as it was then. Last version I played was just too arcade-like.

I agree with jayhitz450 everyone has different preferences, it's just the way it is. However, personally I've always been a Fifa fan and always will be.

You're all pretty much idiots. Stop arguing over which is better. Some people like pes more, some fifa. THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE ANSWER. Go buy a f**king happy meal.