Second Assassin's Creed II DLC emerges February 18

@RythmMan: The fact that anyone bothered to respond at all to a statement that was obviously tongue in cheek, and obviously not meant to offend (since the use of the word "we" precluded my exception amongst the group labeled as "gamers") forces me to stand by my statement. Complaining on a message board about DLC (a trend which was obvious as soon as they started putting HDD's in our gaming consoles by the way) and the reason for which they exist (extra gaming or extra profit?) seems inane to me. Almost as inane as posting a silly comment mocking everyone for it. But sometimes, the hypocrite in me must be released. :)

@omnislash_13 I agree, the first pack was pretty lame although it did enable me to get the "kick a guard while flying" trophy or whatever it's called by allowing you to fly anytime u like, apart from that,,, lame! The second one was much better. and @sta697 I agree it is a superb game amongst quite a lot of drivel but the way they have done this DLC does alter my overall view of what would easily have been my goty.

ok i played ac2 , great game.my personal goty and i got the additional content because i wanted more.but i played the two dlc and they are really frustrating.they used the ac2 good name to make more money and thats a shame because it harmed the way i think of the game

@ShadowOfKratos yeah i agree completely too. Normally i'd be really pissed to hav to buy DLC that was originally planned to be in the game anywayz. but i wus actually excited for them instead probly b/c im so into ACII. so i guess im one of those people who'r ok with gettin ripped off. but its like w/e

I completely agree with "RhythmMan" and couldn't have put it better myself. The second DLC (combo or not) is 11MB in size (a demo can be larger), meaning that Florence area is locked on the retail version, but it's there, completely built and loaded onto the retail disc. And I'm betting the Templars Locations are too, since there is no difference in size between the "Normal" and the "+Secret Locations" DLCs. So yea, I think we just got ripped off & too many of us are (strangely) ok with it.

On the PSN store for me this DLC is the same $3.99 as Battle of Forli, and they have another combo option for Sequence 13 and all the previously exclusive bonus content (maps) for $6.99. Maybe Battle of Forli cost ~$4 and Bonfire of the Vanities cost ~$5 on XBL but for me they are both $3.99 on PSN. edit: Ok I'm just seeing on the PSN boards that this was $5 and $10 for the combo until yesterday so I never saw those prices since I didn't look on them before.

@tmt393 No company or video game industry can stop me from looking out for others either. AC2 is a great game, not arguing that. What I'm concerned about (if you read my comments) is the new marketing strategy that is taking place. Removing or witholding content with the intention to sell said content at a later date is not "providing the opportunity" as you put it. Instead, it's providing another way to milk customers. It's selling an incomplete product for full price, then turning and selling the missing content under the guise that it's "new". Companies have the right to do or sell what they want, AND customers have the right to not only refuse to purchase it, but to speak their minds about the practices in which that company conducts business. This is America, and I'm speaking my mind while it's still allowed. Life isn't all about profits, ethics are involved as well. People can speak up if they believe that a company is taking advantage...but thank you for speaking your mind. We obviously disagree, as do many other people in this forum, but that's ok. People are watching to see what comes of this new strategy, if people view it as no big deal then it will catch on because removing content for re-sale is VERY profitable. If a majority of people find it unethical then the sales will reflect that. As long as consumers realize this is not "new" content, but rather content removed then sold as new.

@RhythmMan No company or video game industry is forcing anyone to purchase anything. Considering the fact that the game itself has a superb quality gamers should be thanking the company for providing the opportunity to purchase download content, and if five dollars is too much for, just remember no one is forcing you to buy it. Let's also not forget that this is a business and any person who runs a business does anything within their legal rights to obtain as much profit as possible.

oh yea thery are woop

for xbox is it an add on?

@griffmstr It was $60 for most people, not sure where you got it on sale for $50 bucks at, but that's not the MSRP. If they had reduced the original game to $50, THEN released the DLC for $10....YES nobody should complain.

@nineironriot Calling gamers "whiny little beetches" because they begin to see a trend that appears shady within an industry where they already shell out hundreds of dollars (and in some cases thousands), is presumptuous of you. This isn't a case of people being whiny or cheap at all. This about people who already spend loads of cash for their favorite games, then find out that content was witheld for the purpose of squeezing out a little more blood from a stone. Some people catch on to trends and can see where they may be headed, or how they can be abused by companies trying to make a questional buck off fans, then speak up. A little more reasoning, well thought out statements, and respect for others would be appreciated.

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Wow, when I read these comments it forces me to remember what whiny little beetches we gamers can be.

This game is better than 95% of the rubbish out there today. It is a rare game that keeps me coming back and has such an impact on me. So I feel like I got a whole lot more value for this game than nearly every other game I've played on the 360. So I'm fine paying for this additional content. Bring it on!

when does it release on PSN in northen Europe?

I think its funny how people are complaining about the price of the DLCs. Most games that come out are $59.99 or just $60. AC2 was $50. The two downloaded content packs put it at the same price as other games that come out, so its really not MORE expensive. (Not including the $8/month of Xbox live which most people have anyway, and if your Playstation, then its free for you)

assassinating your wallet...

The first pack was a waste of money from where I'm sitting. It was over before I knew what was going on and protecting two people while being attacked my 12 guys wasn't worth paying for. This one has more missions, a new move and a new area so hopefully lightning won't strike twice.

@mwmars they are set during a 30 year gap in the story

@drduck90232 i heard that ubisoft is going to make a seperate dlc with the content missed from the white/black/master editions

They said in an interview prior to the games release that they we're holding back these "memories" for DLC because of time restraints and production values. Personally I would have preferred them to postpone the release date and have the DLC as actual game content but if you love ACII then you'll be like me and pay the money and enjoy the missing content. 8 million copies sold worldwide!! Does anyone know if they plan to create more DLC other than the two they already knew about?

what sucks is that the pc version is going to include both dlc without pc players to pay more money

Considering how fast they're coming out with these DLC's for ACII I think it's pretty obvious they just cut it from the game... Hopefully developers will stop half-assing us one day and make the games worth the $60.

I heard that there is also going to be a (separate?) DLC where we will also be able to buy the exclusive content that were only available in the Black/White/Special Editions like the Shipyard Wreck or something... :p I got the Special Edition, so I think I'm missing 1/3 special missions. xD

@ mwmars, the 2 DLC's are part of the main storyline, since these are two memory sequences in the game that can't be accessed until the DLC's are downloaded.

What an epic game, and the DLC is cheap, this is a must buy for anyone who has ACII, which is a must buy as a game.

Haven't played AC 2 YET. Are these extra missions (both this and the previous DLC) supposed to take place during or after the end of the original game plot?

Oh and on another note, everyone knows that there are extra features like bloopers or deleted scenes for most movies. A lot of these movies will be released in a collector's edition, or something like that, with this extra stuff for a higher price than the movie by itself. DLC for any game is no different. It's nothing more than extra stuff that may (or may not) have been part of the original game that doesn't really add anything to the main plot of the game. However, in most cases it increases replay value.

woo tomorrow

"I spend money to be entertained, not to have it converted into useless dork-points." hahahaha! I love it thats an awesome quote!

flat line, how do you know that the people asking for trophys are the ones who didnt care about them? lol some people argue for and some against but that doesnt mean your hearing the same voices for both sides

Totally agree with Flat Line and all the others like myself who are more concerned with the enjoyment factor of a game and it's DLC rather than proving how much of a nerd I am by showing people the achievements and trophies I have. I spend money to be entertained, not to have it converted into useless dork-points.

Oh and all this "But, but, there aren't any achievements??" Again I lol.... All people did when the announcement of achievements came out was whine because it was "cheap" or it "Didn't matter" and this and that. Now, All people want to know when something comes out is "DOES IT HAVE ACHIEVEMENTS?" I think I would be more worried about how much FUN I might have rather than hoping my friends see my score go up another couple hundred points....

Lol... How do ANY of you know that this content was supossed to be on the disc at release? What, just because you wanted it to be?

9 bucks for Battle of Forli and Bonfire of the Vanities is a reasonable investment. Many extra hours of content, new area, new tricks and missions...Plus, when they get this out of the way, they can worry about the trophy patches for both DLC. I only buy DLC if I know it will serve a purpose. With LBP, I invested into the Level Kits. With AC2 and DA:O, I invest into additional missions/side quests. At least its better than what Tales of Vesperia did on the 360 (its a heavy offender for overcharging for content. All the content would have cost 70 bucks total to purchase!).

i loved the game, but will not be getting these DLC because of how they presented it...like something that should have already been included now if there were some achievements.....

I am sorry Ubisoft not interested as much as I love Assassin's Creed 2 I never supported paying for DLC and I never will. Buying DLC only encourages and is a way for developers to release the game with content removed to sell it latter as DLC so to milk more money from us that buy the game. I would pay more for the game with the content left in the game.

While I do like having some actual new content for the game (rather than the upgrades twiggy mentioned), the AC2 DLC almost feels like it's something that got cut from the game. Maybe it was just planned to add later, but the numbering of the memories (the DLC being 12 & 13, making them take place prior to the end of the game) and the mention of them in the game makes it feel like Ubi cut them from AC2 in order to make an additional 10 bucks, as opposed to actually developing something new (like Borderlands has, or the new add-ons for RE5) to sell.

All you fools complaining about this DLC being a "rip off" are just that...pure fools! The game was great as released, and this DLC is quite inexpensive. Keep your money if you want, but personally I'll be buying this...probably after work on the 19th. It's not like it's Madden or NHL '10 that are wanting you to buy "upgrades" for your players. You actually get more playing time with this DLC. Some of you "gamers" are getting WAY too spoiled!

So this is what happened to those missing sequences! Did I actually just hear the sounds of an NPC getting pickpocketed from the game in my own head? Urrrggghhhh..... Sorry, AC2 was fantastic in every way but I don't see myself falling for this blatant scam from Ubisoft! KEEP YOUR MONEY even if it appears to be a harmless $5

I wish there were some more achievements added to it.

Somewhat, I think this is cheap... Leave out some sequences deliberately to sell them as extra content... Am I paying for an unfinished game? It seems like they only made it to chapter 11 until the release date and had the end finished already... So they said, ah, this memories are corrupted, you have to continue with seq 14. That's cheap, really. Nevertheless, I'm going for all AC content I can possibly get. But I think I'll wait until all DLC is released and the price reduced, maybe for a package of them. Then I might cheat myself in telling me that I bought an expansion pack.

Bluray/Dvd-r discs and they leave this stuff out? :/ years ago it was just a cd-r and small sized cartridges and everything was there. Talk to your friends like "hey did you beat the game?" now it's like "hey did you spend more money to finish a game that's more expensive then the games 7 years ago?" I hate buying DLC honestly, but being that it's ACII i guess i can make an exception.

i would like more weapons.

Some new achievements would be nice?, I can't be bothered to play it right now with games like Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2 staring me in the face, atleast give me a reason to put it back in my disk tray.

This one better deliver, unlike the 1st one...

wasnt this dlc suppose to have multiplayer. not saying it really should but that is what i read. come to think of it it would actually be kinda cool. like crackdown only back in time

put it on a disc

thanks for charging us extra for content that already should have been in the game. they have to relsease extra content to finish the story the same thing they did with prince of persia making us pay more for a real ending what a load of S***