UK retailer schedule lists LucasArts and EA's MMORPG as coming to Microsoft's console in spring 2011; BioWare says no console version planned "at this time."
Source: British news site VG247.
What we heard: Microsoft has sent mixed messages about bringing massively multiplayer online role-playing games to the Xbox 360. The announcement that Final Fantasy XI was coming to the console was the centerpiece of its 2005 Electronic Entertainment Expo press conference. (The Xbox 360 had been revealed the week before). However, the company quietly killed off its Marvel superhero MMORPG for the console, which developer Cryptic then turned into Champions Online for the PC.
With the console version of Champions Online now canceled, Xbox 360 owners are wondering what the next big MMORPG for the system might be. VG247 appeared to answer that question when it posted what it claimed was European retailer GAME's internal long-term schedule of Xbox 360 releases. Toward the end, the schedule clearly lists Star Wars: The Old Republic as coming to the console sometime in 2011. EA recently pushed back the PC version of the game to a "spring 2011" launch window.
The official story: The listing appeared to back up speculation sparked by comments made by Electronic Arts president Frank Gibeau in 2008. Then, he told Eurogamer that his company was "definitely looking at the opportunity to bring the MMO experience to console, without question."
However, EA subsidiary BioWare, which is developing the game at its Austin studio, quickly shot down the rumor in a post on the official Old Republic forums. "As to why The Old Republic is on that list, we have no idea but to allay any confusion, we should not be on there," said BioWare community manager Sean Dahlberg.
Dahlberg also re-posted his company's official boilerplate regarding the sci-fi MMORPG: "Star Wars: The Old Republic is currently being developed for the personal computer (PC) using the Microsoft Windows operating system. While we recognize that there are other operating systems and platforms available for games today, our development is specific to the personal computer using the Windows operating system at this time."
Bogus or not bogus?: Bogus…for now, anyway.
Spartan2211995 i agree with you 100%, a 360 version of the game should be made as an RPG, but i also think it should give you the option of joining friend via xbox live to complete harder missions. 360 needs a game like this for all us original fans of the Xbox versions. Force unleashed is a good compramise but lacks the indepth pull of an RPG like KOTOR.
They should make this game for xbox 360 but not as as a MMORPG they should just make some adjustments and make it a single player RPG like the first two KOTOR games
@Snaptrap PS3 owners have to suffer from being dumbed down by the 360. And by the way, I'm not a fanboy I own both, but I believe that the PS3 has a stronger system.
@ Darth_Starwind I wouldn't be so quick to say that insulting someone is beneath this site. Have you read some of the comments that get posted by the majority of people on here? The majority being the whiny bunch that feel they are entitled to everything and shouldn't be expected to fork out some extra cash for it.
@ Darth_Starwind Whatever dude, I wasn't trying to personally insult you :). So I apologize if I overeacted or if my post appeared more offensive than my usual tongue-in-cheek snark. Is being called a noob that offensive to you? After all you did say some pretty whiny noobish things regarding affordability of next-gen computer gaming. I don't know what your financial situation is but I just assumed that anyone who is frequently willing to spend $70 on console multiplatform games (once again assuming from looking at your profile) is not too poor to save up for a decent gaming computer (if you bought a console game every month for a year, that's about how much you would need for a computer with decent memory, an under $200 graphics card and a few other necessary accessories). Just visit any pc gaming tech forum and you'll be pleasantly surprised. I don't have a money tree either, paying rent and other living expanses, etc. but I still see how a powerful up-to-date home computer could be useful for more than just gaming (especially with today's increasingly demanding operating systems). Hence $1000 would not be wasted. PS: The story of this game takes place 300 years after the evens of KOTOR. From what I read on the game so far the only thing, storywise, it has in common with KOTOR series is the Old Republic Star Wars setting. Hope that it doesn't put you off the game. By the way the game likely won't come out for another year, hence plenty of time to save up for a good graphics card at least. Or even a better computer. Frankly nobody buys/builds computers for just one game, for it will open a door to you to a whole universe of quality gaming, especially if you're into massive multiplayer games.
@ freema Your are right about it not being on PS2. I thought it was and I was wrong. There was a MAC version and that was what I was thinking of. That said, I am perfectly aware that this new game is a MMO. Now, there are other things I'd like to say. First off, you are wrong as it is a continuation of the KOTOR series. It's not a direct sequel but it is set on the events that happened many years earlier. KOTOR laid the foundation for The Old Republic storyline. Second, I hinted that I did not know if it would work as well on a console as on a PC. I concede that PC's are better for MMORGS. Third, I don't know about you, but I'm not made out of money. A $1000 is not chump change to me. I have real world things to worry about like bills and rent. I play games as hobby when I can afford them. So spending a $1000 dollars for a good computer just play one game would be stupid. And let me ask you this. What is "good laptop" to you? My roommate plays Final Fantasy XI with an almost new and pricey laptop and still has to play on the lowest graphical settings and the game is years old! Finally, you can keep you negative comments to yourself. You were right to correct me when I was wrong but to get insulting is beneath you and this site. Plus you have the gall to say that you don't want hear other people throwing out insults in games yet you do it here? Grow up.
@ JFL1969 Totally agree. If it does come out for the 360, it better have separate servers for the PC and xbox crowd. I just don't want to hear racial slurs at every step or ADD-suffering 10-year olds screaming into their headsets, calling other players f@ggot n@ggas or some such garbage, as is already the case in Call of Duty or Gears of War multiplayer matches.
@ Darth_Starwind Besides, KOTOR 1, 2, Mass Effect 1, 2 are single-player rpgs. While Old Republic will be a MMORPG. Do you realize how much ass a MMORPG (even something as simple as World of Warcraft) would suck on XBOX Live ? You know Massive Multiplayer RPGs are made for the PC so that more than twenty people could play at the same time.
@ Darth_Starwind KOTOR 1 and 2 were NOT available for PS2. And Old Republic is not "next chapter" in KOTOR series, it is a separate game, like Star Wars: Galaxies before it. I strongly suggest you get your facts straight before blessing us with such nuggets of wisdom out of your ass. And just because whining noobs like you don't have the computer skill or shopping smarts to put together a decent gaming rig these days (can be done for under $1000 today, thus not expensive compared to how much it cost before) shouldn't force the rest of us, serious gamers, to suffer through endless console dumbed-down computer rpgs. And it is MMORPG so you probably won't even need a gaming computer for it. A good laptop would probably suffice.
I can't say if the controls would work or not but I will say this, Bioware would be doing everyone an injustice by not offering the game on multiple platforms. KOTOR 1 and 2 were available on PC, Xbox, and PS2. So they have a huge fan base. (I know KOTOR 2 was done by Obsidian but its original design was based off of Bioware's) Now they are only releasing the next chapter of this great series on just PC? Frankly, I think that's crap. Not everyone can afford to keep their computer updated to play next gen games. PC gaming just costs to much. They are seriously alienating a lot of their fan base or at least they run that risk.
True, I'm primarily a console player and I'm not to keen on the idea of MMO's on consoles. We're barely getting 4 player co-op games and if you're talking non shooters it's really scarce. Hell, I'm still waitin on a great multi-player RPG game. You hear that Bioware and Bethesda?
Fable has more complicated controls than WOW and works well with a pad, it can be done but done well?.....meh.....
@TheoleDominion yeh i know but what im saying if you put WoW on the Xbox without a keyboard it would suck. So basically the point im trying to make is that any MMO on the xbox would not meet its full potenial without a mouse or keyboard of some sort
as long as PC and console don't play on the same servers, i personally don't care that it ends up on the console...
Everyone had their fun with the single player Knights games, so now it's time to do something different with the franchise. Besides, now that BioWare is with EA, I doubt there'll ever be a KotOR 3 nearly as good as the previous games if it comes from a different developer. Obsidian just straight copied what BioWare had already done and I seriously doubt they could've done as good of job from scratch. As for a port of TOR to the Xbox 360, I hope not unless it's isn't going to affect the quality of the PC version. Xbox users already know how much it sucks to have a game dumbed down to support a lesser platform, that being the PS2.
Good job I have a decent PC then :) also in that vid I heard what i needed to hear; Your choices make a difference.
I don't care if we get this on the X360. I want KotOR 3! A new single player adventure picking up somewhere close to where the second game left off. It had a cliff hanger ending and so many questions unanswered. Questions that should NOT be answered in the mmorpg.( imo, of course )
@Darkbeyond, I disagree, MS and other devs aren't even putting to use the keypad already available on x360 controllers, so what's the point of a keyboard?
At least give us a KOTOR 3 for the 360. And I don't see the big deal. The Dreamcast had an online RPG game similar to this and that was like 10 years ago. All MS would have to do (if necessary) is make some kind of keyboard & mouse Peripheral for the 360 and it would work. The Sega Saturn had a Keyboard & mouse add-on it that was nearly 15 years ago. If they aren't realeasing this to the 360 it won't bother me one bit. i'm probably not going to play this regardless since Im not really into MMO's. What I want more than anything is for them to bring back the classic single-player RPG gameplay and make a KOTOR 3 for the 360. Besides the MMO takes place like 300 years after KOTOR 2 right? So they should have plenty of space on the time-line to make a good and logical storyline.
@mooncalfreviews Agreed, there are many possible ways to do a console MMO, but most of them are not going to work cross platform. One suggestion that I personally think would work would be a system similar to that of Bioshock, left trigger controls left hand with bumper quick switching, and right trigger / bumper for the right hand, you could also map multiple spells and abilities to the D-pad along with the normal buttons.
well.. whatever!! if Consoles gamer really want this title!! Bioware must made this version bland & simple for fanboys!!! so.. they didn't get confused!! lol
@mcspaddin You'd be right, assuming MMOs never try to become anything new. Just because they have always been a certain way doesn't mean they can't be something different on the console. A lot of console players like turn based games, for example, and in turn based combat, a pop up wheel or menu to select from a list of hundreds of skills is very much the norm. Or you could go the reverse with a console MMO; it could be more like Fable, which isn't strategy it's action so it requires less powers mapped at any one time. As for the subscription fees thing, APB have the right idea. MMOs can negate the need for subscription payments by adding frequent and extensive DLC packages, and utalising in-game advertising, both of which have already been tried and succeeded on consoles. But back on the subject of this game, well, I can think of any number of ways they can make this game more console-friendly. Failing that, package it with one of those xbox controller keyboards. Maybe if the gaming industry had a shred of imagination between them, console MMOs wouldn't be a failure.
I just don't see this being played on consoles. Would be great for the console owners if it would come out on consoles, but i just don't see it.
The problem is with MS concerning MMO's is that myself and alot of others are not gonna pay twice )(live subscription) to play online. The Live Gold subscription is there to allow players to play games online on their system. I refuse to pay any additional fees for online gaming.
@BaLLz_ON_FiRE Most of them are Asian and they only pay $15 a month. Anyways the majority is always wrong, this is just another example. Gotta grind for that next tiki torch lolol
i hope this game ends up being that bit different from most other mmorpg that are out there...... i'll prolly get final fantasy 14 for ps3 when it comes out tho >.>
@ zeniftan, I really don;t know what bhemont was saying but the fact remains that doing simple things such as trade chat will become arduous for console gamers as they will have to do one of three things: 1. own the text board peripheral 2. deal with the horrible console texting system or 3. constantly be talking over people on a voice channel. again that is one of the aspects of MMO gaming that I simply dont see transferring over to consoles
@ Bhemont : You seem to forget that the majority of console owners actually HAVE and USE mics. And from long personal experience as a PC gamer too, PC gamers with mics are a small minority.
wow haters.... umm yeah i dont mean that to be a hoggish fanboy type thing. Dragon Age was a good game, but i didnt like the way the controls worked on the console (I had to use the wheel a ton because I was a mage), it worked much better on the computer. I was simply saying that if they are to make an MMO on the console the control scheme should probably be like DA but its going to need a large overhaul to make room for more abilities to be used. As an example I play a frost DK on wow I use 9 of my number buttons, and a few of those 9 with *shift* changes. That is something that I simply cannot do on a console MMO... If the MMO was made from the ground up to be specifically for the console it would work much better, or if they could find a way to map out *shift*-like controls (similar to the use of the right trigger in DA but with more of them) also I really do believe that most of you want a console MMO would not like the additional fees to play it, unless it is something big that you can't get on another console / is the best on your console. Its just not typical of console games to have additional fees, and not typical of console gamers to want to pay them (both of these with the exclusion of DLC)
Why do I keep re-reading the article for any mention of a KOTOR 3 release date. I miss the great old single-player RPGs...
If they do plan to make it xbox game as well, then they better divide the two so me as a pc player won't have to interact with console nubbs that can't communicate verbally!
@ mooncalfreviews agreed,the closest I have ever seen a console game get to an MMO would have to be DA origins, but a system like this physically could not work without more tweaking... Although the controls worked well it is not something that could be done very easily due to the fact that the game lacked the ability to use a larger list of moves in real-time, an extreme pain in the ass for most MMO classes. On top of this most fanboys would rant about the extra charge to play the game online, something completely necessary to run dedicated servers. I don't know about you but I don't see home xbox's being networked to work as a whole server.
I can understand why PC fanboys are so possessive of their quality games. PC gaming is dying pretty fast, and they've gotta fight for what little remains exclusive to them, which is why they are so quick to tout the dogmatic "MMOS on consoles don't work" chant like indoctrination victims. While PC used to have exclusivity over intelligence in gaming, this is no longer the case. RTS and Adventure games are no longer the only artistic or intelligent genre of gaming, and even those two genres are being ported to consoles now, too. In my opinion, the wider audience we can hit with intelligent games, the better for the progression of the medium. Hell, the better for the human race as a collective whole. Any gamer who would ask that an artistic, intelligent or otherwise unusual game be kept exclusively for their own platform is clearly a fanboy. A fanboy who is happy to make others pay $2000 dollars for PC that smoothly runs said game, when art should not be exclusively reserved for those with fatter wallets.
with pc owners being deprived of some exclusive console games .......it feels godd to have pc exclusives
I'd love it if it was ported to the 360, but it looks like I'm just going to have to get a gaming PC instead.
sounds like wishful thinking with absolutely no base behind it. everyone should go back to a simplier time where each cross-console games did not exist and when a game only came to the pc the halo-tards and sony fanboys didn't b**ch about it. Its just stupid to complain when a good game doesn't come to your favorite system, get over it or get a pc.
I hope it would come to 360 as the original xbox was the reason the old republic universe thrived. Bioware's kotor was amazing and is the reason they became one of the biggest console RPG developers today. I don't know about EA being in bed with MS but MS gave these titles there start so there will be some loyalty as Ps2 had last gen with a multitude of 3rd party games.
@ Rudorlf you didnt read my comment very well.....Microsoft owns part of Mass Effect...I'm not 100% sure about KOTR but I think they have a piece of that too....KOTR wasnt even touched by Bioware is a good example...Dragon Age however is not owned in anyway by Microsoft....however because of Microsoft's stake in Mass Effect I can't see them giving Bioware the freedom to make it for the ps3....for the record I am not a fanboy I own all three consoles and PC game..I'm just sick of Sony fanboys trolling forums that have nothing to do with sony...and btw if you look at reviews and evidence Dragon Age: Origins is pretty much the only game that is for both ps3 and xbox that looks better on ps3 but it runs smoother on the xbox anyway soo the superior tech is irrelevant
What a shock, EA taking another pull on the teet of Microsoft. Wake me up when you have something that is actually shocking. They may as well call the next console the EABox Powered by Microsoft. The person below me who said EA is in bed with MS is right on. They have been since the 360 came out.
With age of conan, Champions online, and APB (Huxley too?) all planned for consoles or 360, they were cancelled. While i want to see more MMOs on consoles, i dont want to see PC MMOs on consoles. Its like an RTS CAN work for a console (Kingdoms Under Fire on XBOX 1 was an amazing game), but when you go in thinking a PC game strategy and port it to a console it wont be that fun. Even Halo Wars used PC base gameplay, and that sucked. Whats up with developers now in days? So stupid. Make a MMO developed for consoles. Be more fun. There are ALOT of genres not covered by PC still. Consoles should tap into that market. Or maybe PC should. Stupid mainstream developers.
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