Half-Life creator confirms sequel to popular Warcraft III tower-defense mod will arrive for PC and Mac in 2011.
Last October, a lead designer on the popular Warcraft III mod Defense of the Ancients announced that he had been tapped by Valve to lead development on a new project. It didn't require a particularly plastic mind to guess that the designer--known publicly as IceFrog--would be expanding on the tower-defense project, and the dots seemed to line up in August, when Valve trademarked the term "DOTA."
Today, Valve connected those dots, announcing that DOTA2 will arrive for the PC and Mac in 2011. According to Game Informer's first look at the title, DOTA2 will essentially be a re-creation of the original title, which saw a continuous stream of minions flood toward opposing sides' bases. Players are given control of a unique hero character with upgradable special abilities to aid the minions in their task.
Valve also told the GameStop-owned magazine that DOTA's entire roster of more than 100 hero characters is being imported to the new title. The studio also hasn't made much of a change to the original DOTA's field of play, with items, skills, and upgrade paths also falling in line with the Warcraft III mod.
However, there will be a few changes under the hood. Namely, DOTA2 will run off of Valve's Source engine, rather than the engine Blizzard Entertainment built for Warcraft III. It will also include integrated voice chat, and computer-controlled characters will take over for players who disconnect during play sessions. These AI bots will also be available to play against in training matches, though Valve does not intend to create a single-player campaign for the game.
DOTA2 will also feature a coaching system, where veteran players will have the chance to tutor newcomers. In return for their service, coaches will gain in-game glamour items and titles. These rewards can also be gained through creating interactive walk-through guides and offering other out-of-game community contributions.
"computer-controlled characters will take over for players who disconnect " ~~~ this makes me worried
@Custodian405 if the original creator of DotA is involved we can expect something good. that's why HoN never appeal to me... they basically copy-paste every aspect of dota (hero+item+etc) i supported LoL (headed by Guinsoo) and i'll do the same with DotA2 (headed by IceFrog). the father of RTS/RPG genre
What was wrong with the first title or LoL? If it doesn't introduce new heroes or items then it's an epic fail, cause you can get the same game for free, minus the graphics of course.
i played the game since 5.84 if 6.2 is 5 years, i think thats more like 6 -7 years till now 6.69 ?, just please make it available on mac yippie
I guess this is kinda big news for DotA/HoN/LoL players and all..but I got only thing to say to Valve- OUT WITH HL2 EP3 ALREADY...
@Damascuss I never said the community would be perfect, but it would be better. A pricetag is not a cure, it is a filter. F2P games are usually the worst communities, since everyone is allowed in, and there is really no backlash for getting banned, since you can just create a new account for free. It also keeps more teens and children off, since they generally have less money to spend than adults, and that ALONE makes a better community. And at any rate, Valve is more than up to the task of cultivating a good community. They have done nothing short of perfection in the past.
Not sure what to think about this. Dota outside Warcraft 3 engine just feels really unfamiliar. I've tried those few games that copied the idea, but never felt at home in those.
HoN already released a DoTA "sequel" per se. I think the original look too dated with todays standards. I know thats why a lot went off to LoL and HoN. Better graphics, somewhat same gameplay and you got yourselves a sure hit. Sequel wise though, it will be interesting to see how much more they can improve besides better graphics. I'm not too fond of having to "coach" players to earn achievements, but w/e... as long as people buy the game its good.
I might get this but..... im getting the feeling this game will be flooded with micro transactions. Having to pay for every item or hero update would suck.
Any dota clone outside of the wc3 engine just cant give you the same feeling. e.g., take a look at HoN and LoL.
@twilightjawa Ashe is not original in anyway, her arrow spreadshot is an ability used in many other wc3 AoS maps, for example Age of Myths. Frost Arrow is a common ability, and her ultimate is Miranda's arrow with longer range. Though I do believe you are referring to the appearance, but other than a female archer there isnt much resemblance; http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101005190542/leagueoflegends/images/c/c0/Ashe_OriginalSkin.jpg
@Poodger You're telling me a game with a price tag will have a better community? So according to you,a game like......lets say WoW, buy the box, the expansions and then pay your monthly fee, that's a lot of money, but all that money guarantees a good community?....LOL! You're so wrong. A good community is only possible when the moderators want it to be. If you keep your community in check then it would be a better place. All you was correct about was LoL having a crap community, and it has nothing to do with being F2P.
From 6.27 to 6.69 I've played dota, I think that's 5 years. So I expect more from Valve's new addition to his fantastic collection. And I do expect ep3 too.
I'm assuming the hero in the artwork there is... Windrunner? Pretty much the only hero I played in DotA xD So, yeah, I guess Valve is kinda required to put their own twist on the heroes, if they're keeping all the same ones from DotA...
we see strange projects in valve btu where's damned episode 3? come on we want Hl2 grand finale. and after that if u have good ideas make 3rd half life.
Hmm, sounds interesting. Still, I can't really get excited for anything from Valve until we start hearing more news on Episode 3. Right now, coming from Valve, that is all that matters to me.
I just googled about DoTA and in the end, doesn't fit my gaming needs. FPS is more my game genre. Valve, just give us news about Half Life 3 or episode 3, or the next Counter-Strike.
Hmmm HoN and LoL will have some major competition if Valve does successfully make Dota 2. Would they use the name Dota ?? Yea in the article says Dota but still ... hmm ...
Trust me, people waited for half life 2 way, way longer than a purported half life 3. Where as half life 2 continued to make episodes that related to the actual game and progressed the story, we got instead Blue Shift and Opposing Forces for half life 1, which weren't bad, but really didn't live up to any official sequel standing to the original game, and were kind of throw aways for that. Valve was so smart for delaying HL2. Look at any early screenshots and you can tell they made huge progress in graphics, physics, the feel of the game. Just let Valve move at their pace and develop newer, better graphics engines to really surprise us for a HL3.
Who here would pay valve good money to simply forgot about all these other projects and just give us half life 3 already!
Could be interesting. Still have W3 installed for original DotA. Plus it probably won't cost that much. And if IceFrog is involved, it will be quite good. Yes Ginshoo (the original creator) is not involved but IceFrog knows the game just as well, it will be worth checking out.
@jaredcrazy3232' Pretty much the truest thing in the world. DotA is the bane of all civility, particularly at lan cafes. Good times.
I'm wondering if they are going to change some of the names of the heroes because some of those heroes have copyrighted names or deeply rooted in warcraft lore. Heroes like Lina Inverse, rikimaru, and voljin comes into mind.
@corpsefool I guarantee that alot of the pain and suffering felt from playing others would go away when a price tag is involved. And Valve won't screw it up, because Valve has NEVER screwed ANYTHING up before. As a company, Valve is infinitely better than Riot, and their perfect streak gives them alot of confidence that buyers can trust. Also, whenever Riot releases a patch, the servers go to hell. Sometimes, the servers wont be running at all for hours at a time. PVP.net went all glitchy and weird for me and all my friends after the Miss Fortune patch. They are simply unreliable, but it is usually forgiven because Riot is so small. If a company like Valve ran LoL, things would be much smoother.
Finally I can stop playing the employee board trolling, lulwutpatching, and serverfailz of Riot and League of Legends. Im looking forward to this so much so I can get out off 1500 elo hell
im still gonna go to my local cyber cafe and hear people screaming at each other using language that will make a young woman blush. All I can say, ragecraft is ragecraft is ragecraft
The community wont be better, they will be jerks like they've always been. They know this and it's why they are implementing that coaching system, so noobs aren't discouraged when they get raged on every game. And they give you incentives, give me a break. The interface isn't buggy and the servers are fine. I have a consistent ping of 20. Valve will mess this up because they don't know anything about it. Weaker community.
@Poodger: Could be true. HoN does cost money but when I was playing it was during the free beta. Think the game itself was pretty good and I got pretty good at it after playing for a bit and learning all the concepts, but the flames and rudeness I (and so many others) were receiving from more experienced players when I started was completely uncalled for and considering the HoN community is the same playerbase as DotA, it makes me very apprehensive about DotA2. The actual game could be amazing, but if the playerbase is like that, it's not fun to play. If you're right though and it's just those playing during free-to-play, it would be more appealing.
The community SHOULD be better in this game. Does anyone want to know the REAL reason games like League of Legends have a bad community? Because they are free to play. As soon as a price tag is put on a game, it weeds out alot of the trolls, the children who's mommies wont buy it for them and the foreigners that play like crap.
I think this is great news! Half the ppl bashing here admit they either never played the game or tried and couldn't get into. Guess what? DOTA is one of the most unforgiving PVP games out there. It's hard as hell, which also makes it the more rewarding. The game is really balanced even with hundreds of characters. But someone here said the truth: the community is awful. It usually is with such hardcore games so this the only negative I can think of. I don't care if it's just a facelift, this little game is a gem. Probably it will come with a budget price on steam so I'm getting it for sure.
So, they have AI bots, which is basically all you need for single player, yet they are purposely not putting in a single player mode for no apparent reason?? LAME. All the people I know who would play this with me played the original so much they got sick of playing it. I highly doubt this will be enough to bring them back, meaning I will have no one to play with.
I've never played DOTA, but I played Heroes of Newerth during the beta (made by same guys I think). While it was pretty fun, the community was absolutely terrible. Even joining newb games specifically for newbs, I and other newbs would get flamed by more experienced people joining the server (even though it was designated for newbs). Hard to enjoy a game with such a community. Will watch this one though. May be worth getting.
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