Wii successor confirmed for 2012, Nintendo profits fall by 66%

@juanpa_ortiz Why are you replying to a comment i made almost 3 months ago? First off i never said you have to love the games that i love. But when you call yourself a "hardcore gamer" when you play mario, IMO thats pathetic. Heres how i see it. You have the casuals, who play video games for fun which consists mostly single player games like MARIO and others.Then you have the competitive gamer, which is the players that play SKILLFUL games to WIN. This does not include easy/terrible games like MW2, black ops or any cod after cod 4 for that matter. The third category is the losers with too much time on there hands. This consists of people that take games like marios, zelda World of Warcraft (just to name a few) seriously and play the games waaaayyyy to much, get NOTHING out of it then they're dumb enough to call themselves "hardcore' for taking a single player game seriously. At least you can win money when you game competitivley if you go to tourneys. Oh an BTW i never said i wanted to compete in a competitive event. In fact i never have, plus I have no time since i'm always playing baseball almost everyday. But I doubt i'll be a major leaguer like you suggest i do considering its near impossible. I just call it how i see it kid, so dont get mad =)

Hopefully this system will revive the SNES - era like third party support that Nintendo had.

Thats why their bringin popular franchises like assasins creed and tekken etc. into the wii library cuz they need more good games 2 keep sales on track

Nintendo also needs to start trying to draw in the hardcore gaming crowd with a more mature label of games. They could have two of them: White Box (for all ages) and Black Box (for the mature and hardcore types), obviously with the name coming from the color of the box the games would come in. This would give an immediate visual indicator for parents who are protective of their children's entertainment content, since we all know how often they look at the ESRB label, what with all the stories of buying GTA for 10 year olds and so on. Stop trying to only play it safe and family friendly, Nintendo! Give me a reason to want to get games on your system besides a new version of WiiFit!

Hope Nintendo brings out a console that's worth my time and money. Even though the Wii sold well, I was never one of those it attracted. The NES, SNES were the only home systems that I was proud to own and the Gamecube I got only because of Mario Kart: Double Dash! In this current generation, it's all about online play and high def. If they can put these 2 features in their games(which are the best first party developed), then they might take the lead in sales again. Who knows, I might climb back to the Nintendo band wagon again.

Keep up the good work~!

i hope this is true :)

@FrumpyShakes I think you're missing the point. Nintendo seems to be going back on the "hardcore" track, not reverting back to the casual strategy. I think what Nintendo realized, is that the trend they started with casual gamers has been tapped into by other competitors, which pretty much kills their "blue ocean" strategy. That doesn't mean they'll ditch casual gamers, but that does mean that Nintendo will most likely aim to captivate traditional gamers this year with Project Cafe and the 3DS.

66% ? ouch ...

Hopefully they won't do the whole thing where they assume they should try y to appeal to "non-gamers" in expanding their market, that is, water down the majority of their games to being short, very easy experiences with little quality control and a ton of cheap-o party games. I'm all for innovation but I think the wii has been such a failure so far as not controlling what sorts of games are released. For every Super Mario Galaxy or any other decent game, you get like a hundred bargain bin derivatives that look terrible. If for some reason it's in vogue to appeal to non-gamers and abolish the whole idea of a hard core gamer, then you might as well stop taking video games seriously.

@mclebron23 It will be better if you stop offending people, just participate with your opinion. And, please define hardcore gamers. It seems that in order to be a hardcore gamer I have to love the games you love, and I dont agreee with that, or it seems that you have to be in the MLG to be a hardcore gamer, please be more specific. Games were made for having fun, if you want to compete in a real major league, do it in reality not in the fantasy world.

@Kanden15 No, online gaming ruined the industry. Motion control is an innovation.

ps3 and x box 360 will catch up with Nintendo selling world wide, it's only the matter of time:p

Nintendo fall and don't ever rise again

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I think Nintendo is getting what's coming to them for all this motion control crap. They've ruined the industry.

ok, ill take on this bet....ps3 and xbox will lose so much money, only nintendo will preveal...take in my bet? i bet you you all of nintendo's franchises that it will be that way, starting with the DS who was competing with....wait, competing with PSP what again?

is that all you do with your life dstv? play videogames? a handful? lets start from worst to best, shall we? goldeneye, other m, sin & punishment, donkey kong, okami, mad world, star wars force unleashed, , umbrella chronicles, punch out, endless ocean, a boy and his blob, dead space extintion then mario galaxy 1 & 2, zelda, upcoming zelda, darkside chronicles, resident 4 wii version, new super mario bros, mariokrt, darkside chronicles, wii sport resorts, no more heroes 1 & 2, metroid trilogy, dude the list is endless! only good games outside nintendo wii: ps3, uncharted 2 and metald gear 4, and for xbox, well, is all the samne to me.....all shooters and open world games, nothing to orginal.....

@mclebron23 hey man listen everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Sadly most shooters of today take little to no skill at all to play, whereas games like Super Mario Galaxy, The Legend of Zelda, Professor Layton, and games like them actually do. I do agree that COD 2 was the best and its online is the only one I have ever enjoyed (on the PC), I own all of the systems and I am not saying that the Wii has the most hardcore titles or the most quality titles but what it does have are games that build upon a successful franchise and take it to the next level. Nintendo is always refining and redesigning they never stop innovating I believe that all consoles and games have their place and I firmly believe that the "hardcore" gamer is dead. We now have a lot of Niche' gamers, the term hardcore is used to lightly nowadays since I have seen 14 year old's tossing around that term because they play Black Ops, I have been playing video games since I was 2 and have tried every type of game and I love them all. So I think we should all just learn to accept that these games are here and if you don't like them, don't play them it's that simple.

not buying the next console....bought a wii several years back and haven't played it since 2008...the wii only has a handful of games that can hold my attention

@mclebron23 how come mario kart 64 is harder than mario kart wii? i recently played after five long years and i myself one that loves that game were disappointed with the easiness that i beat that game. and to like a game it doesn't need to be difficult nor anything you just need to enjoy it and have a good time... if you like shooting and all having a challenge the play games like that! but me, i like all manners of games from stupid super mario galaxy to old blackthorn from CoD series to mario kart from total war series to grand strategy games like europa universalis, Hearts of Iron and Victoria 2... and also don't call me a fanboy, since fanboys are those that simply like a company for no real good reason i have my history with nintendo i played their games for quite a long time, so i created a bond with then, but that does not mean that i don't dislike their games, take this zelda skyward sword for example i'm expecting it but only for curiosity, since it looks like that nintendo did to the zelda series what it has done to itself turning casual i can bet that this game will suck for sure

You sir, are a moron. Theres no point in arguing with you so this is my last reply. First of all, you make no sense with the idle thing. If you're talking about my username i dont get your point. I watch basketball unlike you and lebron is my favorite player. Been following him since he was in high school probably when you were in diapers. At least mario isnt my idle like you. Second off, cod 2 does take skill. Even the regular rules in public MM took skill. Like i said, if you think it doesnt, back it up by beating me or at LEAST keeping it close. Halo3 has an MLG playlist you idiot, so you dont have to play "custom servers" for the game to take skill. You obviously never played halo 3 if you didnt know MLG has its own playlist, or you just suck and played BTB, team dubs or lone wolves like a noob. Know facts before opening your clueless mouth. Now like i said, stick to zelda and mario and shut up about anything xbox or ps3 when you're an obvious nintendo D rider. =)

It's all about how many good games come out for it. having a great console is only half the battle. Come on Nintendo, show everyone you're still one of the Big-Boys. [side note, less games based on motion controlers please. i like many game to relax ]

@mclebron23 Did a child who needs idles just try and talk crap? Honestly kid your busy calling games mature because of a rating then you try and talk crap. Once you see an actual war zone you will see the stupidity in thinking silly kids games are mature... Also I played those games back when they were new and yes they are casual, very few shooters require skill and IMO all of those shooters are first party titles(Halo 3, Warhawk(ps3), really nothing since these two has been worth crap IMO). Custom servers dont change the dynamics of a game and if the dynamics are flawed then the game is garbage.

@ArabrockermanX...Are you retarded? When did i say MW2 took any skill? LEARN TO READ. I said CALL OF DUTY 2 IS THE ONLY CALL OF DUTY THAT TAKES SKILL. DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET? COD4 also took skill but not as much as 2. You probably never played cod2 in its prime because I'm guessing you're around 15-16 years old be because for one, you cant read, and for two, you bring up MW2 which is by far the worst game on the planet in terms of competitiveness. You also obviously never heard of MLG either because for some reason you bring up public match making in MW2. MLG has different rules and settings to make the game more competitive. You ever here of CUSTOMS? Smash Bros is not on the circuit anymore. It may be on GB (which is NOT MLG) but I dunno. GB is for casuals like you. If you think COD2 is casual you are a moron. If you think you have a chance, send me a FR (Hak is Bak is my GT) I havent played in about 2 years and I guarantee i beat you 15-0 easy. Why? Because the game takes SKILL. That goes for Halo 3 also.

@Evtutchenk0...Muscular men? Are you gay Sorry I like actual good games that take SKILL instead of the same mario games that came out on N64 with better graphics and now they take less skill. Mario cart has gotten so easy/bad its sad. Mario cart 64/Double dash were awesome, but MC wii is bad. I guess someone that camped out for wii on launch day is considered a "hater" Not really kid. I call it how i see it and ps3 and 360 have much better games. You're an obvious nintendo fanboy so theres no point in arguing with you.

@Hiroo4 Duh?

@Rovelius http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/cartmin45/Trollface. png

@mclebron23 CoD games were all casual... I know you got this fantasy in your head about how "hard core" gaming is LMFAO. MW2 had to be one of the easiest shooters as far as multi-player goes I see noobs running up 50-0 kill streaks quite often when in other shooters that requires effort and hours of play time. Also the Super Smash Brothers ladder is still up...

@mclebron23 you're just a hater... nintendo has made success with those series (mario, zelda, metroid...) and i have to say i played CoD (all of them) gears of war, halo and so on but those games did not left a mark on me... i don't care if a game sells but it looks like you just like games that have grapgics and muscular man... but that's not my problem

@togo2828...you're an idiot. I dont care how much a game sells. COD2 sold less than every other cod games but it easily takes the most skill out of all the cods. Why? Because all the cods after that were dumbed down for the casuals. In case you havnt noticed, the reason mario games sell is because all the casuals buy nintendo which leads them to buy mario. Its not rocket science. You're an obvious nintendo fanboy/moron for calling mario games "hardcore" lol. If its so "hardcore" why hasnt MLG picked any mario game up for their pro circuit? They used to have brawl, but got rid of it because it corny and was unpopular in MLG. Also, why the hell are you comparing sinle player mario to single player cod/halo? are you retarded? Ever hear of a thing called xbox live? guess not. Go play MLG halo against 50s and see if you get 1 kill lol. Its pretty obvious you never played games competitive, so there no point in arguing with me. Now go play your hardcore mario galaxy that my 7 year old cousin beat hahah. =)

So ready to see what Nintendo will reveal :D

@mclebron23 All those games you just listed don't sell as much as Mario games, and half of them are 3rd party games so yeah not like sony or M$ is making a killing off of them like Nintendo is. There is a saying If it aint broke, then don't fix it. Mario is far from broken so they will keep releasing them, not only for adult but for children as well simply because in 15 years those children will be where a lot of us are now saying they played Mario when they were young, and they may pick up another copy for nostalgia reasons. Also Mario Galaxy is much harder to get 100% on than any game you listed so who's the real casual here. The one who plays one of the best games ever created (Mario Galaxy) or someone who can beat the game they are playing in one sitting (my brother did it with resistance, and COD, and halo) I'd take the game that gives me a challenge for more than a day. if you don't know which one that is, i'm saying Mario Galaxy is for Hardcore, while your games are more casual than you think.

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The number one lesson that Nintendo learned is to Support Third Party Developers and that's WHY there is going to be a new system. The Wii2 will be able to do Everything that the PS4 and X-Box840 will be able to do, PLUS it will support all the games made by developers like Square/Enix and Konami and all the others who didn't make very many Wii games.

Funny how the sales drop off once consumers begin to realize that fancy new control schemes mean little in the face of mountains of awful software. I hope Nintendo has finally learned that quality games are more important than gimmicky interfaces. Maybe the next console will do the unthinkable: give us more than a dozen games that are actually worth the money we spend on them!

@squidracerX Its their traditional release time just look at Nintendo's history... Also the ps3 is not that great of a deal I own both a Wii and ps3 controllers are about the same price a little bit of smart shopping and you can get rechargerable batteries for 4 controllers or more for under $30. Also I bought the Nunchunks on some sort of clearance at Walmart for about $10 I bought 3 at the time even though I only had 2 remotes. I was never shure why they were half price back in 08... Nintendo does need to release an 8 year system this time though or they will be releasing their next console 4 years after MS and PS... Also ps3 controlers break easy I got 1 left out of 4 >:( they did get a fair amount of use just not as much as my GC did.

@hottdiddykong hey not so smarty pants higher res means crisper better graphics which look more realistic....duhhh!! =b unless they cell shade all the mario games to look like amped up Dragonball Z games which look pretty amazing now days too...

I hope it isn't completely casual with this motion crap and it goes back to controllers.Wii was alright but needs its online revamped and plus a cooler interface.N64 and Gamecube were beast, Wii was good but a downslide.Can't wait to see what they got! Oh and Super Smash Bros!!!!

its a shame that the wii's reputation was ruined by gimmicky releases (third-party rubbish) and to be fair lack of high resolution probably hurt. I've been using mine to play some classics (Wind Waker anyone?) but I'm not surprised how far behind Nintendo have fallen, the 'family-gamers' have now experienced the novelty of wii and the fad is over. Its a shame the 3DS didn't have enough first party titles on launch too =/. I do hope that Nintendo's new console s**ts on ps3 and xbox cos they could use a win.

@texballla424 Yo smarty pants, HD doesnt mean "Realistic" it just means that its gonna have higher resolution. Better Graphics doesnt mean "Realistic" either, Mario's Cartoonish style will just look more awesome.

@Grim_Reaper007 Thats your Lose, there's allot, its best if you Really do "pay attention" but then again, it also depends on the type of games you like.

@hotdiddykong I have been paying attention to wii releases, but most of the "hardcore" titles it has don't appeal to me. No More Heroes 2 was IMO the last great Wii game.

are nintendo silly ? if they announce a new console at this years E3 then sales for the wii will practicaly stop as everyone will be waiting for the wii 2 rather then wasting there money. note to companys. only announce a console if it is coming out within a few months. like the xbox slim. that was released a few days after its official announcment.

I LOVE NINTENDO.....But idk how i feel about a HD mario that might be a little weird...I could see an HD Zelda tho Cause that game is not as happy go luck as mario and freaking amazing or a Metroid but mario....idk....most HD nintendo games would be weird if u kinda think about it...well good luck nintendo hope u wow us...im for u ive been a nintendo fan since 8-bit...and i hope you game line up doesnt only consisting of good first party games.... but its is nintendo so why would it change now?....cant wait to see E3!!

@Hiroo4 People like you a thorn in my side. You're full of prejudice, thinking I'm nothing more than your typical Wii fanboy just because I dared to mention gameplay > graphics and even after trying to explain my point, repeatedly telling you I am NOT taking the Wii's defense AND I'm not a big fan of the system all you manage to do is reply with irrelevant posts. I mean why even start this discussion if you're not ready to hear me out. Stupid, lazy, self-centered troll, go bother someone else.

@mclebron23 Incorrect. I'll take Brawl and Mario Galaxy 2 over any Call of Duty game any day. But then again, I mean, your user name has "LeBron" in it, so I don't even need to explain myself. *Cough Bandwagon cough* Definitely not joking. You're so full of fail it's ridiculous.

@Rovelius We get it! You love the Wii, stop repeating yourself.

@ArabrockermanX - yeah a ps3 and xbox cost a bit more at first, but that doesn't justify the best selling system this generation from gouging its own lifespan just because it was a few bucks cheaper, thats still wicked crappy. Take our money in run instead of support the platform? They made 2 Wii plus games! Thats it! So yes the ps3 cost more, but with all the extra tech and the longer lifespan its totally justified now, plus xbox was even out a whole year longer already... And after you bought all the extras for Wii like rechargeable batteries, SD card, the needed nunchuck, and the motion plus add ons, it wasn't a heck of a lot cheaper than my ps3 anyway - especially when you factor in what you got in the PS3 that the Wii didn't have (a lot), and that my PS3 came bundled with 5 blurays, a game, backwards compatibility (so i didnt have to replace my broken ps2) and a bluray remote for free. Heck the built in recharge batteries on the ps3 controllers is worth $30-$50 in a recharge station on the Wii alone. But either way, Nintendo is killing the Wii off early, even though they should concentrate on making a few more good games for their 85 million customers, that's not a great practice in my book. Even if Xbox and PS3 didn't exist.