1.2 couldve brought me back to this game, total letdown
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- Apr 19, 2012 2:18 am GMT
From: Darththeo | #039
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also to quote another posterFrom: LordlyRaven | #012
You sound upset. Want to talk about it?
you do kinda sound upset...
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http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif - Apr 19, 2012 2:22 am GMTCEs_EFG posted...
From: Darththeo | #039
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just saiyan, no one has actually agreed to any of your points if anything every that here has pretty much shut down anything you've said. Herping and derping, also half of that post seems like angst more than anything.
If anything why are you commenting in such a trivial manner
do you really think saying something like
From: Darththeo | #002
I find it very user friendly ... then again, I know how to use it.
is helping anyone other than showing how arrogant you are?
Considering I agreed with him on a good number, I don't see how everything I said was shut down ... again there is no herp derp and your response makes me weep for humanity.
Should I lie about how I feel about it? I mean outside of few differences the GTN is very similar to WoW's AH, or at least how I used WoW's AH. It isn't the best, but I wouldn't say it is not user friendly just because you don't like how it works.
Seriously, WTF is wrong with you people ... nothing I said been shot down and if you think it has, then I can simply say you just hate Bioware or being nit picky at what you want.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 19, 2012 3:44 am GMTother people don't like this game
brb canceling my sub
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I'm going back to end my life down in the Rising Sun. - Apr 19, 2012 4:09 am GMTwieheistdu posted...
I really hoped by now SWTOR wouldve added, changed, fixed areas or certain issues with this game to make it really worth the monthly fee to play. But, for the last 4 months, it has been just dissapointment after dissapointment. Patch 1.2, pretty much re-re-confirmed that BW/EA either just dont care anymore, are totally clueless, or both. Now this isnt a troll thread or BW bashing thread. I am just giving my 2 cents on how it is really sad to see such a once promising game potential being squandered by poor management and ignorance, and seedy practices. After the 1.2 fiasco, I dont know if there is still time to turn things around for TOR. It seems like the current world event was a last-ditch effort to help stave off some the backlash from 1.2 being so lackluster. If I were in charge of TOR's team, I would do an about face and start applying all the players most requested suggestions and actually listen to what customers are wanting. They really need to get off their butts and start listening to their customers if they want to stop the hemmorage of subs. Heres what they shoud do in future patches to make this game more fun:
1.3>A) Add ranked Warzones with improved reward for the losing side
B)Add LFG tool for dungeons, heroics and raids
C)Add guild leveling perks, guild search tool
D)Change legacy system to add better rewards and perks (like adding new exotic races to play like wookies, rhodians,, etc) Special items and such that dont cost millions.
E)More GTN changes to make it more user-friendly
F) Remove the lame fleet stations and just make it so you can go from planet to planet
G) Cut out the instancing/shards to make it easier to have a growing community
E) More UI improvements
What to add in the future:
1.4>A) Add weather effect, night/day cycle, wildlife, etc to worlds
B) A 2nd leveling route/planet/zone for each side to add more incentive to roll alts
C) Change space combat so its less "Star Foxy"
D) More games, fun stuff, community events to make the game more social focused (Pazaak, racing, casino, world events, etc)
E) Adding more npcs that walk, talk and interact with the environment.
Anyway, that is what I think BW should do to keep this game from failing. But at this rate, it almost seems they are trying their hardest to do the wrong things and see the game fail. I cant help but wonder how different the game may have been if EA hadnt bought Bioware.
While I agree that these suggestions are quite unrealistic for 1.3, I too hope the game will get them all eventually. The game is quite good, but these changes would make it great. - Apr 19, 2012 4:24 am GMT
From: Darththeo | #042
Considering I agreed with him on a good number, I don't see how everything I said was shut down ... again there is no herp derp and your response makes me weep for humanity.
Should I lie about how I feel about it? I mean outside of few differences the GTN is very similar to WoW's AH, or at least how I used WoW's AH. It isn't the best, but I wouldn't say it is not user friendly just because you don't like how it works.
Seriously, WTF is wrong with you people ... nothing I said been shot down and if you think it has, then I can simply say you just hate Bioware or being nit picky at what you want.
Lmaoooo I just figured most people aren't even taking you seriously at all bro,
From: LordlyRaven | #010
smh
most are smart enough not to argue with someone like you -_-
fyi its not because you're a good arguer
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http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif - Apr 19, 2012 8:54 am GMTmaxpowr3 posted...
I don't see the legacy costs as THAT big of a deal. They are one time costs for your ENTIRE account on that server.
Thats the problem with the entitlement generation. Now that these features are available, they want them IMMEDIATELY and for next to nothing. And if you were to give them all the legacy features for free with no work, they'd just start complaining about how there are no new legacy features yet and how they have nothing to work towards.
Heck, nothing in the legacy is even critical to gameplay or gives you any noticable advantage over anyone else. - Apr 19, 2012 1:39 pm GMTCEs_EFG posted...
Lmaoooo I just figured most people aren't even taking you seriously at all bro,
From: LordlyRaven | #010
smh
most are smart enough not to argue with someone like you -_-
fyi its not because you're a good arguer
Considering I haven't attempted to make many arguments on this board, you are no position to make a judgment.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 19, 2012 1:45 pm GMT
From: Darththeo | #047
Considering I haven't attempted to make many arguments on this board, you are no position to make a judgment.
hey guys, hey guys! pointing out a flaw and giving out my disagreement to most points of someones complain does not mean I want to argue with them. I am just giving my opinion!
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http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif - Apr 19, 2012 1:50 pm GMTCEs_EFG posted...
From: Darththeo | #047
Considering I haven't attempted to make many arguments on this board, you are no position to make a judgment.
hey guys, hey guys! pointing out a flaw and giving out my disagreement to most points of someones complain does not mean I want to argue with them. I am just giving my opinion!
Disagreeing with someone isn't arguing with them. Pointing out an flaw isn't an argument ... what are you twelve? Seriously, only a child thinks this way. If someone tells you that something you said was wrong, it isn't an argument against you. If someone disagrees agrees with what you say, it is not always an argument.
If that was true, then I have argued with every politician I have met.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 19, 2012 2:05 pm GMTHere is my post broken down for your simple mind:
1.2 A) Doesn't solve the problem of PvP - Not an argument, an observation it won't make it better.
1.2 B) Factual Error on part of TC, pointing out that he is mistaken as a tool exist. So, I assume he wants a better one, I agree with that. Not an argument.
1.2 C) Pointing out that it will lead more complaints about being a rip off of wow - Observation. Disagreement over it being a good idea at all in the first place. Guild perks are nice though, and they can do it via a non leveling way. Half Argument at best.
1.2 D) Pointing out spelling error and statement if he is going to list names to spell them correctly. AND AGREEMENT WITH POINT! Not an argument.
1.2 E) Disagreement - Argument
1.2 F) Pointing out the Fleet is used for flashpoints and removing it isn't by default a good idea - Argument
1.2 G and E2) Asking for Clarification of points - Not an Argument.
So of 2 of 8 ... 1 of 4 so far ... yeah, tons of arguments!
1.3 A) Pointing out there is wildlife but agreement! - Not an argument
1.3 B) Pointing out it isn't realistic to do given the programing - Observation - Not an argument
1.3 C) Pointing out it is a mini game and some people like that style - Observation - Not an argument
1.3 D) Pointing out gambling would be problematic in an MMO - Observation - Not an argument
1.3 E) Asking a question about it and stating it is unrealistic given the situation. No game has it. It is all scripted events that occur. - Observation - Not an Argument
So, 2 of 15 ... how exactly did I ARGUE with anyone making only two things that could be considered arguments. Not all disagreeing comments are arguments. There is no arguments really outside of where I disagree with him and most places I do agree ... how can you argue with someone you agree with ... perhaps you can educate me, but I doubt it.
You do understand that two people can converse about the subject and come to conclusions without arguing right? Arguing =/= Disagreement ... they are similar not the same thing.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 19, 2012 2:12 pm GMT
From: Darththeo | #049
Disagreeing with someone isn't arguing with them. Pointing out an flaw isn't an argument ... what are you twelve? Seriously, only a child thinks this way. If someone tells you that something you said was wrong, it isn't an argument against you. If someone disagrees agrees with what you say, it is not always an argument.
If that was true, then I have argued with every politician I have met.
its not even that you disagreed, its that you were so offensive about it, kinda like you just attack him just to give your argument more weigh to get a false sense of winning or something.From: Darththeo | #050
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like someone else said to you alreadyFrom: LordlyRaven | #010
smh
sooooo we are not arguing right now right? derp derp
your logic sucks btw
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http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif - Apr 19, 2012 2:28 pm GMTCEs_EFG posted...
its not even that you disagreed, its that you were so offensive about it, kinda like you just attack him just to give your argument more weigh to get a false sense of winning or something.
sooooo we are not arguing right now right? derp derp
your logic sucks btw
First off, yes, I am arguing with you because you are making factually incorrect statements about me based of your own ****ty assumptions. I don;t make many arguments partly because people like you like to twist and distort reality to suite your delusions.
I wasn't offensive. If pointing out errors is offensive then every boss and teacher is offensive to their workers and students. Disagreeing with someone is also not offensive.
Secondly, false sense of winning? I agreed with him on a lot of the points and think many have some merit. He is just mistaken on some aspects and ignorant of what certain things would take.
You are being far more offensive to me than I was to the TC ... you are assuming my stance. And that is offensive. Grow the **** up.
Now, I grant you, my statement "I know how to use it" can be view as offensive since you can not see tone and body language to determining the meaning. The GTN is not difficult to use, but is not the best out there. That does not mean it is not user friendly. The rest, it isn't offensive, if you think it was, you are thin skinned.
BTW, don't speak of logic, you clearly don't understand it.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 19, 2012 6:34 pm GMT
From: Darththeo | #052
First off, yes, I am arguing with you because you are making factually incorrect statements about me based of your own ****ty assumptions. I don;t make many arguments partly because people like you like to twist and distort reality to suite your delusions.
ITP: Everyone here is twisting what I am saying! ITS NOT MY FAULT AT ALL GAIZ!Secondly, false sense of winning? I agreed with him on a lot of the points and think many have some merit. He is just mistaken on some aspects and ignorant of what certain things would take.
wasn't the point, you are just bashing him to make argument more valid, which is how middle schoolers argueYou are being far more offensive to me than I was to the TC ... you are assuming my stance. And that is offensive. Grow the **** up.
lmao what? I haven't said anything that bad, if anyone seems to be on the extreme offensive is you brahNow, I grant you, my statement "I know how to use it" can be view as offensive since you can not see tone and body language to determining the meaning. The GTN is not difficult to use, but is not the best out there. That does not mean it is not user friendly. The rest, it isn't offensive, if you think it was, you are thin skinned.
lmao your overall first post was full of angst , and you seriously do not want me to take it as an insult? That is reallyyyy pathetic. I mean its hard to tell sarcasm over the internet but your first post seemed like the ramblings of a wild fanboy if anything.
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http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif - Apr 20, 2012 2:31 am GMTCEs_EFG posted...
ITP: Everyone here is twisting what I am saying! ITS NOT MY FAULT AT ALL GAIZ!
Considering that is truth, yeah, see below.
wasn't the point, you are just bashing him to make argument more valid, which is how middle schoolers argue
Considering I haven't bashed him at all, yeah, so right. Again, only one of the things I said could be viewed as bashing of him. No correcting someone's spelling is not bashing them. What is people with thin skin? OH NOES, you said someone spelled something wrong and it is important to spell correctly ... honestly, if that is bashing someone, you have a very low opinion of what is.
lmao what? I haven't said anything that bad, if anyone seems to be on the extreme offensive is you brah
Again, you are considering things offensive that are in reality are not. You have merely constantly gone "That is offensive!" no evidence, just a random statement without proof ... you are like the people that get made when you don't care about their insignificant problems.
lmao your overall first post was full of angst , and you seriously do not want me to take it as an insult? That is reallyyyy pathetic. I mean its hard to tell sarcasm over the internet but your first post seemed like the ramblings of a wild fanboy if anything.
Wouldn't surprise me if you did take it as an insult because it was closer to bashing then anything I said to the TC, so clearly, you are pathetic.
First off, I like the game and I like BIoware, but I am not a fanboy. Honestly, just because I disagree with a few points someone feels would make the game better ... and btw, I agreed with MORE than a disagreed with that TC made.
Things to improve?
PvP: Batter Balance (Constant work), New PvP Zones, New Warzones, maybe a warzone that has made different modes like one could be Resource Based, or based on how much you are losing ... even one where NPCs are part of the fight would make it feel more warlike. Adding Ranked Warzones solves what about PvP? Nothing.
PvP: New dailies hub for people to do. Maybe a new Daily Hub and PvP Planet that is better that Ilum ... speaking for Ilum making it better. Yes, I am talking about adding a new planet.
PvE: A new operation with all modes released. And this operation has the true "Heroic" fights that were talked about. Bosses are not single enemies but part of a group of enemies ... or constantly spawn adds. Something to feel less like most other MMOs.
PvP/PvE: Raiding the Homeworld: ***There are spoilers for JK ending here*** ... My knight invaded Dromaad Kass, I would have loved to have perhaps Operations to raid Coruscant, Tython, Dromaad Kass and Korriban and fight some of the characters. Like I would have loved to fight like the Emperor and his Dark Council in one fight. Maybe just a phased area of these planets, and perhaps give a warning to all 50's that the planet's been attack to come to the defense of _____ through emergency transport.
Character: New races, but perhaps not outside of the currently racial paradigm. Similar to humans but more alien ... I would love to see Mon Calamari as playable, and several others ... Wookiee will not likely be there because they can't speak basic, but the idea is interesting. Perhaps a Legacy Race/Class combo that is only for that ... like Make a Wookiee Smuggler and the story is slightly changed for that.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 20, 2012 2:37 am GMTYeah, I am totally ranting like a fanboy ... honestly, the more you talk the more wrong you sound. Honestly, just because someone doesn't agree with EVERYTHING you want to change about the game doesn't make them a fanboy. It is like saying everyone who liked ME3 up until the ending and hated the ending is a fanboy if they don't find the problem with other aspects of the game. You call me middle schooler ... well then at least I am higher than your quality still.
Maybe if you actually took the time to read what I am saying rather than jump to "THAT IS OFFENSIVE, YOU STUPID FANBOY" you will see how wrong you really are. But yeah, I can see how asking what the TC means can be offensive ... honestly, you remind me of my boss.
1) Co-worker makes error.
2) Reports error to my boss and tells that it was done wrong and should be corrected.
3) Boss says can't as it would be an insult to the co-worker and the claimant must go to the next link in the chain wasting everyone's time.
... How? They made an error, it is not insulting, offensive or a slap to the face to correct an error! People make mistakes, people have unrealistic expectations. Pointing these out is NOT offensive in any way. I never taken offense when someone points my errors out unless they add a clear insult to it.
"You ****ing idiot, that won't work because X" for example. Saying you find something to be user friendly because you know how to use it is not offensive or insulting.
Honestly, I can not believe any rational or logical thinking person would ever come to such a conclusion as you have.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 20, 2012 11:43 am GMT
From: Darththeo | #055
Yeah, I am totally ranting like a fanboy
you just wrote 2 mini essays in order to prove somebody on the internet wrong brah. Ima let that sink in a little
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http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif - Apr 20, 2012 11:49 am GMTGlad this got bumped, I was getting worried there were no troll topics on the first page.
- Apr 20, 2012 2:30 pm GMTCEs_EFG posted...
From: Darththeo | #055
Yeah, I am totally ranting like a fanboy
you just wrote 2 mini essays in order to prove somebody on the internet wrong brah. Ima let that sink in a little
You do even every get into the same universe as a logical thought or do you intentionally enjoy being this illogical? Defending myself against your accusations is not being a fanboy ... let that sink in a little.
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras - Apr 20, 2012 3:09 pm GMT
From: Darththeo | #058
You do even every get into the same universe as a logical thought or do you intentionally enjoy being this illogical? Defending myself against your accusations is not being a fanboy ... let that sink in a little.
I was hoping you'd write another essay, lmao at you not being offensive btwYou do even every get into the same universe as a logical thought or do you intentionally enjoy being this illogical
I will use this lmaoDefending myself against your accusations is not being a fanboy ...
you are wildly defending a game brah, and are bashing half the people who would prove you wrong. So if anything.. yes you are kinda fanboyish...would a regular player really be devoting so much of his time on an internet to prove me wrong? let that...sink in...for...a..little...
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http://i.imgur.com/iVota.gif - Apr 20, 2012 3:14 pm GMTCEs_EFG posted...
From: Darththeo | #058
You do even every get into the same universe as a logical thought or do you intentionally enjoy being this illogical? Defending myself against your accusations is not being a fanboy ... let that sink in a little.
I was hoping you'd write another essay, lmao at you not being offensive btw
You do even every get into the same universe as a logical thought or do you intentionally enjoy being this illogical
I will use this lmao
Defending myself against your accusations is not being a fanboy ...
you are wildly defending a game brah, and are bashing half the people who would prove you wrong. So if anything.. yes you are kinda fanboyish...would a regular player really be devoting so much of his time on an internet to prove me wrong? let that...sink in...for...a..little...
Hey, thanks for proving you didn't read anything I posted ... Good day, you fail. I am not defending the game ... honestly, you're so idiotic right now I am done with you ...
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A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patience could feel MY ANGER - Darth Baras
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