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Commander_Rumo

May 5, 2012 4:19 pm GMT
Dude gave it a 4 because he sees 5 as an average game and this, slighltly below average. Generally reviewers dont do this and so his rating is not a good indication when comparing to other reviews.

To be honest I think the combat is good (leaping at enemies isn't random), inventory is average (better than a lot of other recent games) and fast travel is unneccessary. You really dont travel that far and you can pretty much get anywhere in under five minutes.

In relation to being thrown into the middle of a story, well most baggage is explained as you go. I get annoyed at people complaining they dont know why they should care about characters in the prologue - its obvious straight away that Triss is a girlfriend of sorts - is this not enough reason for someone to care? 'But what about all the other characters in the prologue?', I hear you saying. Thats the point! Geralt doesnt care about any of them!
myth_maker

May 5, 2012 4:20 pm GMT
probably because the magic system is so lame...
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lolwhutnubies

May 5, 2012 4:27 pm GMT
I didnt play the first witcher, but i had no issues understanding what was happeneing.
The prologue gives a recap of important part of the first game.
I could also tell ALOT about each character, like who mattered and who didnt.

Between the red head and geralt in the begining for example, obivously they have some sort of intimate relationship, the conversation options you have between them also reveals that they have been on a "quest" together for some time etc and that geralt is very distance/cold/cutoff
upon leaving my tent, i immediatly ran into a fellow whom owed me money for some job that had been done in the first game, again the converstation revealed MUCH.
a few more steps and i got amassive backstory about a group of mercenaries and geralt, who had a run in in the past, involving the "red head" (triss) and Yennefer (oooh a new name, who is this now?)

After this, i saw a little popup "new journal Entry" so i said "gosh gee golly, what could this be?"
and, holy crap its a journal, with a codex, and tons of background info of tons of characters and places.

10 minutes in now, and i have TONS of info.

Did you neglect to listen to the conversations, not "use" conversation options, not talk to townspeople, ignore the journal, ignore the codex, ignore the "prologue quests" AND skip cut-scenes?

Now im just hitting chapter 3, having NOT played witcher 1, and have NOT watched any sort of recap video etc i feel i know everything i need to know about the universe etc and my only endeavor into the witcher universe is tw2.

I also hated the controls, and found combat to be freaking terrible and convulsive. extremely frustrating.

Then i got good, stopped relying on the lock-on button, and realised the game plays exactly like batman arkham games. i have zero problems with attacks not connecting when they should, or sword clipping etc i also dont have any issues with randomly attacking things anymore.

I honestly think the reason that stuff happens, is people are used to buttom mashing (ala skyrim or DS, or batman) where you want to swing once so you press X 5 times till it "swings". When you learn the combat system, you press it once, move the stick where the guy you want to attack is, press it again, etc

*shrug* ive enjoyed TW2, dakr souls, demon souls etc.
May 5, 2012 6:09 pm GMT
Hey, foo136, I just read through this "biased" review of yours, and while I do not regret my purchase like you do, I must say, your review was well-written, and you do not appear to hold a grudge against it, as the Withcer fanboys claim so readily. In fact, it appears as if you were hyped for the game as much as anyone and merely found it disappointing. I would recommend folks rent the game first. Its style is indeed an acquired taste, and one must tolerate a whole lot to take advantage of what it offers.

Yes, the game will be compared to many action RPGs offering smoother experiences, and yes, it will lose its luster before more than a few of them. The unique protagonist going through a somewhat intriguing narrative is the best thing this game has going for it. As a game, it's too shabby to stand above some of the other games out there.
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Gigabomber

May 5, 2012 10:06 pm GMT
foo136 posted...
My point was the controls are so bad that it drags the game down, and it has some archaic systems (bad inventory, no quick travel). Honestly, it's like the CDProjekt guys haven't played any games that've been released in the past decade. This game feels like a first attempt at making a game--not a second.

Can't say I disagree...
Mkhal77

May 6, 2012 12:10 am GMT
While I would've given a higher score than 4 myself, I agree with some of that review. I've been working so much lately, I haven't been able to play much and have only started chapter 2. Yes, the combat is a little tricky sometimes and the inventory menu is not great at all, but my main problem right now is navigation. Flotsam wasn't bad, but Vergen area is a mess. Last night I had to investigate some bodies in the crypt. Quest marker kept popping up in various locations all over Vergen. After a very frustrating 45 minutes of running all over Vergen, I ended up way outside town and finally found the crypt by accident. Buggy as f%@k quest markers, crappy map and landscape maze have seriously diminished my desire to play.
DRzCalderon

May 6, 2012 1:02 am GMT
I, who happens to own and adore Dark Souls, Skyrim, and Dragon Age, am struggling to enjoy this game.

I'm reading more into it to see what there is still to come as I progress further into the game. Because I'm just bored. LITERALLY.
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foo136

May 6, 2012 2:55 am GMT
Martyr123 posted...
Its style is indeed an acquired taste, and one must tolerate a whole lot to take advantage of what it offers.

Yes, the game will be compared to many action RPGs offering smoother experiences, and yes, it will lose its luster before more than a few of them. The unique protagonist going through a somewhat intriguing narrative is the best thing this game has going for it. As a game, it's too shabby to stand above some of the other games out there.

This definitely akin to what I felt. The only major difference between our opinions is that you don't regret your purchase and I'm fine with that.

Mkhal77, that's the kind of frustration I'm talking about. I spent 10 minutes enjoying some of the story and characters for 50 minutes of poor combat, aimless wandering, and chucking excess iron ore out of my pockets. The game started to feel like a chore. Ultimately, I believe video games should be fun and if a game starts to feel like a chore, is frustrating, or boring (like DRzCalderon said) then it wasn't worth my time.

I also want to say I'm not going to debate anyone on my opinion that the combat was bad or that the story was alienating to start with. It's what I felt, and is my opinion. If you do want to debate those issues then head to the other topics already discussing them. You can't color the experience I already had that was subjective to begin with. Others have voiced my same concerns so I don't feel like I'm unfounded in my feelings--I just happened to be the first person to turn those feelings into a review.
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Mkhal77

May 6, 2012 3:42 am GMT
The graphics are good, I find combat kinda fun, but overall gameplay sucks. I'm hating Vergen, but Flotsam was the same, only smaller, so it seemed less of a pain. In Chapter 1 you had town of Flotsam and a couple of acres of land. It seemed bigger due to maze-like structure of the forest. You went from town to same little area of forest over and over and over again to complete quests. Maybe all the sandbox games have spoiled me, but being forced to navigate maze-like gullies and hedgerows seems like very dated gameplay to me. I doubt this will stay in my collection very long. I don't think it deserved all the 9's it got in reviews. Five or six years ago, yes, but not now...
Slyk90

May 6, 2012 4:50 am GMT
let's single him out for having different views!
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The_Djoker

May 6, 2012 5:35 am GMT
From: Slyk90 | #030
let's single him out for having different views!

Rubbish views. There's having an opinion and being able to construct a good argument, he just talks a load of rubbish and seems to me doesn't understand anything about RPG games in general. Failure of review. But you're right, any idiot can write a review so we have to accept it.
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J_Seinfeld

May 6, 2012 5:52 am GMT
Who cares if he liked the game or not. Bunch of crybabies.
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stokes12

May 6, 2012 8:28 am GMT
The_Djoker posted...
From: Slyk90 | #030
let's single him out for having different views!
Rubbish views. There's having an opinion and being able to construct a good argument, he just talks a load of rubbish and seems to me doesn't understand anything about RPG games in general. Failure of review. But you're right, any idiot can write a review so we have to accept it.

Seems to me that he's exactly the opposite of what you just said, and while people may disagree with his opinion (haven't had a chance to form my own yet, waiting for this game to come up on my rental list) that doesn't justify people attacking him or accusing him of "bias" (an accusation which is technically accurate but no less true when aimed at any of the rest of you because this is all about OPINIONS which are, by their very nature, subjective and therefore biased by definition).
4RK_4NG3L

May 6, 2012 9:44 am GMT
Oh man, the amount of fanboy butthurt in this thread is appalling. I love this game and don't agree with foo's review, but for so many people to blindly attack him for his solid criticisms? I can only hope you guys have the excuse of being in grade school.
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foo136

May 6, 2012 10:01 am GMT
The_Djoker posted...
There's having an opinion and being able to construct a good argument, he just talks a load of rubbish and seems to me doesn't understand anything about RPG games in general.

There's a fairly strong chance I've already played more RPGs in my life than you ever will. I don't want to start an e-peen war with you, but you should realize some people have more experience than you. English is not the only language I know, which has led me to more RPGs than you've probably heard of. I'm not saying I definitely know more than you--it's just a strong possibility. You basically called me (someone you don't even know) an idiot, which is far more telling about your own intelligence.

People chimed in that my review was well written and had solid criticisms--even if they didn't agree with me. I'm confident at this point that I'm not nerd raging or an idiot. As stokes12 said, we're ALL biased in one way or another.
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YiddosRule

May 6, 2012 10:03 am GMT
Frankly, anyone who cares about a review in the first place justifies my belief that people cannot make their own decisions anymore. All a review gives is an opinion and nothing more. Why do gamers today go to the extremes of basing their purchases either on a reviewer that is paid to give an exaggerated score or on a small minority of 16 year olds who cannot even spell the name of the title. It's like all the "help me decide" stupid topics on here that are constantly prevalant indicating that gamers of today cannot make a decision for themselves. I don't care if Tom dosen't like this game, nor do I care if Dick did because Harry always makes his own decisions and lives by them.
elijahsearle

May 6, 2012 10:05 am GMT
This is lame.

First off, anyone who uses the argument a 5/10 is an average game is a troll. If it's in the 50th percentile of games, say it that way, but when you're talking fractions and "grading" a game, you should go by grades.

That said, complaining about the controls,is subjective. I like the controls, I know mostly people who like them but then again I know a few who don't.

I can see why you gave it a 4, I just disagree with the number, not your points, as they're mostly opinions, as they should be.
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aPHAT

May 6, 2012 10:26 am GMT
YiddosRule posted...
Frankly, anyone who cares about a review in the first place justifies my belief that people cannot make their own decisions anymore. All a review gives is an opinion and nothing more. Why do gamers today go to the extremes of basing their purchases either on a reviewer that is paid to give an exaggerated score or on a small minority of 16 year olds who cannot even spell the name of the title. It's like all the "help me decide" stupid topics on here that are constantly prevalant indicating that gamers of today cannot make a decision for themselves. I don't care if Tom dosen't like this game, nor do I care if Dick did because Harry always makes his own decisions and lives by them.

It's because people would rather read reviews and gather all the information possible before deciding whether or not to drop the $60 on a game. Something the author of the review in question on this topic failed to do. It's not people asking others to decide for them but more finding out what others liked/disliked about the game so they can take that info and judge for themselves whether they will like it prior to purchasing it.
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foo136

May 6, 2012 10:59 am GMT
elijahsearle posted...
First off, anyone who uses the argument a 5/10 is an average game is a troll. If it's in the 50th percentile of games, say it that way, but when you're talking fractions and "grading" a game, you should go by grades.

What is this? I don't even. . . No, you don't have to follow the grade scale that elementary school taught you. Otherwise games would actually have grades of A, B, C, D, or F. If you want grades, you're on the wrong site. GameFAQs gives a clear definition of how to score, I already brought that up.

aPHAT posted...
It's because people would rather read reviews and gather all the information possible before deciding whether or not to drop the $60 on a game. Something the author of the review in question on this topic failed to do. It's not people asking others to decide for them but more finding out what others liked/disliked about the game so they can take that info and judge for themselves whether they will like it prior to purchasing it.

According to the other reviews on here, this game is a either an 8 or 9 out of 10. Based on those reviews I should have liked this game. Obviously I didn't. A 9 is "almost perfect" according to GameFAQs scoring guidelines. Calling this game almost perfect is laughable. None of the "research" on here succinctly pointed out this game's flaws, which to me dragged the whole experience down. There was no relevant research available, so I didn't "fail."
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Senkou

May 6, 2012 11:47 am GMT
I really doubt that you beat Demon's Souls, let alone Dark Souls. If you really did beat both games, you wouldn't be whining so much about the gameplay. Pulling lies out of your ass won't gain you any points.

Also, how is the narrative poor? And no, you don't need to have played the first game to understand the story, although it certainly helps. You don't have the capacity to understand crap and tries to throw the blame on the game. I doubt you even got far enough to form a reasonable opinion about the story.

I'd say that you gave the game such a low score just to cause reactions, but I won't. Anyway, if you liked the game or not, that's your problem, but try to write something better next time, if your goal really is to help people on whether to buy or not buy a game.