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  • Feb 26, 2013 11:30 am GMT
    I said it as soon as I seen a gameplay presentation at E3, "This look suspiciously identical to Uncharted...", and in no way did it represent a 're-defining' of the series so much as it was a blatant rip-off. But hey, that's what you do when your IP's fanbase is losing interest, you copy success in hopes to emulate it, right? Ugh.

    Crystal Dynamics has been mediocre for a while now, but this just confirms it.
    I said it as soon as I seen a gameplay presentation at E3, "This look suspiciously identical to Uncharted...", and in no way did it represent a 're-defining' of the series so much as it was a blatant rip-off. But hey, that's what you do when your IP's fanbase is losing interest, you copy success in hopes to emulate it, right? Ugh. Crystal Dynamics has been mediocre for a while now, but this just confirms it.
  • Feb 26, 2013 11:08 pm GMT
    /yawn
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    If you watch Rambo backwards, it's Sylvester Stallone healing people with his magical bullet vacuum.
    /yawn
  • Feb 27, 2013 12:10 am GMT
    It was actually Naughty Dog who blatantly ripped-off the Tomb Raider franchise with Uncharted, not the other way around...

    It was actually Naughty Dog who blatantly ripped-off the Tomb Raider franchise with Uncharted, not the other way around...
  • Feb 27, 2013 1:38 am GMT

    Uhh yeah I'm sorry but nothing in the previous  Tomb Raider games remotely compares to Uncharted's gun mechanics, or story for that matter. If you say Uncharted ripped off Tomb Raider with the idea of an explorer searching for treasure, then yeah you may have a point, but besides that the Uncharted series blows Tomb Raider out of the water, aside from the hot lead character.

    Uhh yeah I'm sorry but nothing in the previous  Tomb Raider games remotely compares to Uncharted's gun mechanics, or story for that matter. If you say Uncharted ripped off Tomb Raider with the idea of an explorer searching for treasure, then yeah you may have a point, but besides that the Uncharted series blows Tomb Raider out of the water, aside from the hot lead character.

  • Feb 27, 2013 9:39 am GMT
    OakRaid99 wrote:

    Uhh yeah I'm sorry but nothing in the previous  Tomb Raider games remotely compares to Uncharted's gun mechanics, or story for that matter. If you say Uncharted ripped off Tomb Raider with the idea of an explorer searching for treasure, then yeah you may have a point, but besides that the Uncharted series blows Tomb Raider out of the water, aside from the hot lead character.



    To put it in a few words, if you don't like this game don't play it, there are games I Hate, but I don't waste my time trolling about them in the forums. Grow up. I love tomb rider since the first one, and love Uncharted and if this game is a mix of styles, I will love it, I dont care who copy who. I just want to play a good game
    [QUOTE="OakRaid99"]

    Uhh yeah I'm sorry but nothing in the previous  Tomb Raider games remotely compares to Uncharted's gun mechanics, or story for that matter. If you say Uncharted ripped off Tomb Raider with the idea of an explorer searching for treasure, then yeah you may have a point, but besides that the Uncharted series blows Tomb Raider out of the water, aside from the hot lead character.

    [/QUOTE] To put it in a few words, if you don't like this game don't play it, there are games I Hate, but I don't waste my time trolling about them in the forums. Grow up. I love tomb rider since the first one, and love Uncharted and if this game is a mix of styles, I will love it, I dont care who copy who. I just want to play a good game
  • Feb 27, 2013 1:49 pm GMT

    OakRaid99 wrote:

    Uhh yeah I'm sorry but nothing in the previous  Tomb Raider games remotely compares to Uncharted's gun mechanics, or story for that matter. If you say Uncharted ripped off Tomb Raider with the idea of an explorer searching for treasure, then yeah you may have a point, but besides that the Uncharted series blows Tomb Raider out of the water, aside from the hot lead character.

    Nathan Drake ain't ugly son. Real talk.

    [QUOTE="OakRaid99"]

    Uhh yeah I'm sorry but nothing in the previous  Tomb Raider games remotely compares to Uncharted's gun mechanics, or story for that matter. If you say Uncharted ripped off Tomb Raider with the idea of an explorer searching for treasure, then yeah you may have a point, but besides that the Uncharted series blows Tomb Raider out of the water, aside from the hot lead character.

    [/QUOTE]

    Nathan Drake ain't ugly son. Real talk.

  • Feb 27, 2013 11:00 pm GMT
    i'd **** the **** out of him
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    If you watch Rambo backwards, it's Sylvester Stallone healing people with his magical bullet vacuum.
    i'd **** the **** out of him
  • Feb 28, 2013 12:27 am GMT

    Please take a moment to think about how awful the gaming industry would be if nobody copied or took inspiration from other people's work.

    Please take a moment to think about how awful the gaming industry would be if nobody copied or took inspiration from other people's work.

  • Feb 28, 2013 2:08 am GMT
    yearssomuch wrote:
    I said it as soon as I seen a gameplay presentation at E3, "This look suspiciously identical to Uncharted...", and in no way did it represent a 're-defining' of the series so much as it was a blatant rip-off. But hey, that's what you do when your IP's fanbase is losing interest, you copy success in hopes to emulate it, right? Ugh.

    Crystal Dynamics has been mediocre for a while now, but this just confirms it.

    Way to reveal yourself as an ignorant fool.
    [QUOTE="yearssomuch"]I said it as soon as I seen a gameplay presentation at E3, "This look suspiciously identical to Uncharted...", and in no way did it represent a 're-defining' of the series so much as it was a blatant rip-off. But hey, that's what you do when your IP's fanbase is losing interest, you copy success in hopes to emulate it, right? Ugh. Crystal Dynamics has been mediocre for a while now, but this just confirms it.[/QUOTE] Way to reveal yourself as an ignorant fool.
  • Feb 28, 2013 3:40 pm GMT

    The whole Tomb Raider is copying off of Uncharted thing is getting really old. I'm a huge fan of both games and Uncharted as amazing as it is, owes Tomb Raider serious respect for doing it 1st long before ps3 came out. Sure Uncharted revolutionized the formula that originated in the Tomb Raider series but Tomb Raider is what started it all. Tomb Raider did later take some elements from Uncharted that the series built upon as well. My point is that they take inspiration from eachother and it makes them better games for that. Both are great and I'd rather just enjoy both of them instead of comparing them.

    The whole Tomb Raider is copying off of Uncharted thing is getting really old. I'm a huge fan of both games and Uncharted as amazing as it is, owes Tomb Raider serious respect for doing it 1st long before ps3 came out. Sure Uncharted revolutionized the formula that originated in the Tomb Raider series but Tomb Raider is what started it all. Tomb Raider did later take some elements from Uncharted that the series built upon as well. My point is that they take inspiration from eachother and it makes them better games for that. Both are great and I'd rather just enjoy both of them instead of comparing them.

  • Mar 1, 2013 6:04 pm GMT

    yearssomuch wrote:
    I said it as soon as I seen a gameplay presentation at E3, "This look suspiciously identical to Uncharted...", and in no way did it represent a 're-defining' of the series so much as it was a blatant rip-off. But hey, that's what you do when your IP's fanbase is losing interest, you copy success in hopes to emulate it, right? Ugh. Crystal Dynamics has been mediocre for a while now, but this just confirms it.

     

    Are you simply here because you want a gold star for your outstanding achievements in investigative research?! I hereby elevate your status to champion of Epeen, and the 1st wonder of the interwebs.

    [QUOTE="yearssomuch"]I said it as soon as I seen a gameplay presentation at E3, "This look suspiciously identical to Uncharted...", and in no way did it represent a 're-defining' of the series so much as it was a blatant rip-off. But hey, that's what you do when your IP's fanbase is losing interest, you copy success in hopes to emulate it, right? Ugh. Crystal Dynamics has been mediocre for a while now, but this just confirms it.[/QUOTE]

     

    Are you simply here because you want a gold star for your outstanding achievements in investigative research?! I hereby elevate your status to champion of Epeen, and the 1st wonder of the interwebs.

  • Mar 2, 2013 2:42 am GMT

    Anime_Fan1986 wrote:

    The whole Tomb Raider is copying off of Uncharted thing is getting really old. I'm a huge fan of both games and Uncharted as amazing as it is, owes Tomb Raider serious respect for doing it 1st long before ps3 came out. Sure Uncharted revolutionized the formula that originated in the Tomb Raider series but Tomb Raider is what started it all. Tomb Raider did later take some elements from Uncharted that the series built upon as well. My point is that they take inspiration from eachother and it makes them better games for that. Both are great and I'd rather just enjoy both of them instead of comparing them.

    Uncharted was far more original in a sense, that yes it took a basic role model from Tomb Raider. Although Uncharted in itself from concept was quite different in gameplay and storylline.

    What this Tomb Raider has done is taken Uncharted and redefeined Tomb Raider into Uncharted.

    It is pointless saying this game is not a clone, it simply is. This is not Tomb Raider or Lara Croft anymore at all, but another generic totally unoriginal game. What elements are here that actually make you want to play this game, apart from the new shiny graphics, which have hideously butchered Lara? There are none whatsoever by comparison. Go on get your easy 1k achieves within a week. This is not gonna make fans want to play, and watch in a few months it will be in the 5 quid bucket. WTF where they honestly thinking with this design? They had almost no imagination at all, except to obviously take away almost everything that was great about playing Lara and Tomb Raider......

    Lara was never a frightened young woman who survived a shipwrecked islands horrors rescuing friends using hunting and camping skills.

    She was a strong sexy talented heiress who loved her family and followed in fathers path of studying archaeology and history while training hard in her pursuit of Olympic Gymnastics. This is how she became a Tomb Raider in following her heritages. Not some bow and arrow weilding, head scalping wench. Who is no longer in tune with the nature around her by discovering its secrets from a forgotten past. Now interested in being a **** victim that kills men, hunts birds and deer. While saying things like I hate Tombs/Temples, why? If she had be taklen all that time in studying history and archaeology? Causes numerous explosions blows up enemy camps and bases, kills hordes of enemies in doing so makes Rambo envious. Her jumps are now clumsy lacking in any grace or poise, with often resorting to using the ziplines that are in place everywhere. Because of that lack of imagination concerning her talents. Her character missing its basic beauty and charm. Vitally without alot of the equipment that even a younger resourceful and extremely talented Lara would have at her disposal. Because the intelligent Lara went off with friends losing all of her equipment when shipwrecked, as she was multipartying with those friends.

    Off topic of this post heading regardless I am so happy to see this game is no longer advertised on my television, and that spot has gone to a far more worthy game which is released in 3 weeks.

    Edited on Mar 2, 2013 3:48 am GMT Edited 5 total times.

    [QUOTE="Anime_Fan1986"]

    The whole Tomb Raider is copying off of Uncharted thing is getting really old. I'm a huge fan of both games and Uncharted as amazing as it is, owes Tomb Raider serious respect for doing it 1st long before ps3 came out. Sure Uncharted revolutionized the formula that originated in the Tomb Raider series but Tomb Raider is what started it all. Tomb Raider did later take some elements from Uncharted that the series built upon as well. My point is that they take inspiration from eachother and it makes them better games for that. Both are great and I'd rather just enjoy both of them instead of comparing them.

    [/QUOTE]

    Uncharted was far more original in a sense, that yes it took a basic role model from Tomb Raider. Although Uncharted in itself from concept was quite different in gameplay and storylline.

    What this Tomb Raider has done is taken Uncharted and redefeined Tomb Raider into Uncharted.

    It is pointless saying this game is not a clone, it simply is. This is not Tomb Raider or Lara Croft anymore at all, but another generic totally unoriginal game. What elements are here that actually make you want to play this game, apart from the new shiny graphics, which have hideously butchered Lara? There are none whatsoever by comparison. Go on get your easy 1k achieves within a week. This is not gonna make fans want to play, and watch in a few months it will be in the 5 quid bucket. WTF where they honestly thinking with this design? They had almost no imagination at all, except to obviously take away almost everything that was great about playing Lara and Tomb Raider......

    Lara was never a frightened young woman who survived a shipwrecked islands horrors rescuing friends using hunting and camping skills.

    She was a strong sexy talented heiress who loved her family and followed in fathers path of studying archaeology and history while training hard in her pursuit of Olympic Gymnastics. This is how she became a Tomb Raider in following her heritages. Not some bow and arrow weilding, head scalping wench. Who is no longer in tune with the nature around her by discovering its secrets from a forgotten past. Now interested in being a **** victim that kills men, hunts birds and deer. While saying things like I hate Tombs/Temples, why? If she had be taklen all that time in studying history and archaeology? Causes numerous explosions blows up enemy camps and bases, kills hordes of enemies in doing so makes Rambo envious. Her jumps are now clumsy lacking in any grace or poise, with often resorting to using the ziplines that are in place everywhere. Because of that lack of imagination concerning her talents. Her character missing its basic beauty and charm. Vitally without alot of the equipment that even a younger resourceful and extremely talented Lara would have at her disposal. Because the intelligent Lara went off with friends losing all of her equipment when shipwrecked, as she was multipartying with those friends.

    Off topic of this post heading regardless I am so happy to see this game is no longer advertised on my television, and that spot has gone to a far more worthy game which is released in 3 weeks.

  • Mar 2, 2013 11:49 am GMT

    These are the last four games in each series. (Including a new Unchartered game which as they come every 2 yrs, it is always a possibility could be announced at E3)

    2006 - Tomb Raider Legend
    2007 - Tomb Raider Anniversary
    2007 - Uncharted - Drake's Fortune
    2008 - Tomb Raider Underworld
    2009 - Uncharted 2 - Amongst Thieves
    2011 - Uncharted 3 - Drakes Deception
    2013 - Tomb Raider
    2013 - Uncharted 4 (??)

    As you can see the games overlap each other, the original concept of Unchartered owes a lot to the original Tomb Raider games, and has used some aspects of that as part of the game they created, the same way the new Tomb Raider game is a modern game implementing some aspects of the old classic Tomb Raider, but also including parts of newer games of a similar genre like Unchartered etc, to bring the game play and design up to date(it is not as if it is uncommon, all developers look to see what their competition is doing and learning from this when they develop).

    There neither of this two games are better than the other, they are both good games in their own individual ways.



    /end argument 

     

    Edited on Mar 2, 2013 11:51 am GMT

    These are the last four games in each series. (Including a new Unchartered game which as they come every 2 yrs, it is always a possibility could be announced at E3)

    2006 - Tomb Raider Legend
    2007 - Tomb Raider Anniversary
    2007 - Uncharted - Drake's Fortune
    2008 - Tomb Raider Underworld
    2009 - Uncharted 2 - Amongst Thieves
    2011 - Uncharted 3 - Drakes Deception
    2013 - Tomb Raider
    2013 - Uncharted 4 (??)

    As you can see the games overlap each other, the original concept of Unchartered owes a lot to the original Tomb Raider games, and has used some aspects of that as part of the game they created, the same way the new Tomb Raider game is a modern game implementing some aspects of the old classic Tomb Raider, but also including parts of newer games of a similar genre like Unchartered etc, to bring the game play and design up to date(it is not as if it is uncommon, all developers look to see what their competition is doing and learning from this when they develop).

    There neither of this two games are better than the other, they are both good games in their own individual ways.



    /end argument 

     

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