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23Oct 12

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Firstly, I have to mention the reasons for my picking of the subject matter of memes for this Chalk Talk assignment.

I am aware that gaming culture has flourished a lot since, say, a decade ago. General society has come to recognize that gaming is now part of modern life and that the games industry is a viable money-making and job-creating industry (and that's being very positive about it - I am aware of people that would rather pour cold water on this statement, thank you very much).

However, I have little interest in gaming culture and the gaming industry beyond being a consumer of entertainment. Therefore, it is for this reason that I pick memes as the subject matter, as they amuse me, and because it is hard to deny that memes are an aspect of gaming culture, albeit not a very serious one.

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GAME MEMES GO WAY BACK

Yes, I know that some of you are going to cringe when I remind you of an infamous meme that you would rather see buried as the short-lived, grammar-destroying fad that it was way back in 1998.

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ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.

Now, as painfully silly as it is, this meme was remarkable for its (dubious) achievement of having been able to penetrate into circles of society beyond just the gaming one. The earliest known and verifiable recognition of it was Fox News' coverage of it back in 2006 (though Fox News did pour some cold water on it, as is typical of Fox News).

The rest are supposedly actions by a bunch of anarchists, which are difficult to verify.

In other words, long before gaming culture was (somewhat) accepted as the norm, the foundations for this change in general society's perception of gaming culture may have already been laid by the likes of memes such as "All Your Base Are Belong to Us".

Of course, fads like this do not put gaming culture in a good light, but they still highlight it anyway and get non-gaming people interested, and more importantly, offer the opportunity to have these people looking at the bright side of gaming culture. After all, people can't see the "good" in things if they are not even looking at them.

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GAME MEMES, LIKE ALL MEMES, ARE FADS AND THEY NEED HYPE TO PERSIST

I will make use of the "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" meme again for this section.

It should be obvious that the main draw of this fad was the contrast between the silliness of the bad grammar of Zero Wing's intro-cutscene and the very serious occurrences in it. It is for similar "reasons" that some later game-related memes/fads would become popular, such as "A Winner is You".

However, this reason alone is not enough to make it popular, because as with all fads, it needs hype to become one.

In the case of "All Your Base Are Belong to Us", it was the efforts of heavily frequented sites like Newsgrounds that provided the hype for it. These efforts typically emphasize the main appeal of the fad to hilarious heights, such as Newsgrounds' use of vocalizers and remixing of music, and, of course, Fox News' highlighting of it.

(Some people do watch Fox News for purposes of entertainment, by the way - not that Fox News would care as long as it's bringing in views. )

Of course, ultimately, fads die over time, as are to be expected of anything hype-driven. They will become stale over prolonged use, are forgotten and are eventually replaced by something else. (Incidentally, the Fox News coverage also hinted at this.)

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However, there is one mistake that people who want fads to die tend to make; they unwittingly remind others of it.

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GAME MEMES ARE NOT NECESSARILY BORNE FROM DESIGN MISHAPS

But they still originate from dubious design decisions. A particular noteworthy example is the "I am Error" meme, which was caused by peculiar decisions by Nintendo's designers on the writing for Zelda II: Adventures of Link.

They are a lot of speculation over how this writing came to be; one of them is that some of the programmers may have been exasperated over problems that were encountered during the game's development, and that this frustration influenced the writer.

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The "I am Error" silliness may have been intentional.

(A more recent and somewhat better documented occurrence of this is the writer for Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman! supposedly becoming increasingly inane as the development of the game wore on.)

Of course, this will get noticed by players and made fun of.

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IN-GAME JOKES ARE NOT NECESSARILY MEMES

It has to be cautioned here that some game-related fads are not Internet memes, or have yet to be so. This is mainly because the main appeal of these fads are only immediately obvious to followers of the associated games. These are, at best, in-game jokes. Thus far, the most polite word to describe the proliferation of these in-game jokes is "subculture"; those who are less kind would use unsavory epithets to describe the infatuation of the fans of these games.

As an example, Team Fortress 2 are full of these in-game jokes. Granted, some of them have managed to go beyond the Team Fortress 2 community, but many remain only recognizable to Team Fortress 2 fans.

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Jokes about the Heavy's sometimes-creepy love for sandwiches
are jokes that still remain only funny to fans of Team Fortress 2.

Of course, all it takes to upgrade an in-game joke to an Internet meme is one particularly witty string of images or video that makes use of the in-game joke to describe something else entirely.

This is what happened to the "Gentlemen" in-game joke, of which the main appeal is (fictional) characters stuffing their mouths full of things that are not necessarily edible. However, when it is used to parody things other than Team Fortress 2 characters, the significance of the joke may not be immediately apparent to anyone who is not already familiar with the in-game jokes of Team Fortress 2.

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I find it doubtful that Touhou fans who do not know about Team Fortress 2 would understand the joke behind this image.

In other words, an in-game joke is not a meme if its gist is not immediately apparent to everyone. Uttering it may well mark one out as inane, or worse.

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That is all that I can write for now. If you know of some super-silly video or image (that are not NSFW, of course) that concerns a game meme, do tell me of it!

45 comments
serphtensei
serphtensei like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Gelugon_baat, please just leave Gamespot. We are tired of seeing you insulting everyone in the comment sections. Whichever page I go to, you are there. You always insult people, saying that they can't accept other people's opinions but how about you? Such arrogance. You better leave the comment section alone or I will never read the section again.

Brokazaki
Brokazaki

 @serphtensei I checked the comments to see if you  are correct  but have yet to see a single insult.  Also threatening to never read the section again won't have much  of  an effect, I'd imagine

Lord_Python1049
Lord_Python1049

Why dont you answer questions about your gender? Its just something I find strange to hide, you should be proud of whoever you are :)

DITHRICH
DITHRICH like.author.displayName 1 Like

nice read, good job

DarthLod
DarthLod like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

Your obviously very Politically Correct brainwashed. I see you doing that all the time in comments. Spewing it forth. This article makes about as much sense as fluorescent brown.

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DarthLod
DarthLod like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Gelugon_baat No flaming here. Simply stating an opinion after reading your article and having watched you on this site for ages.

Coco_pierrot
Coco_pierrot

The Cake is a lie ... The princess is in another castle

Coco_pierrot
Coco_pierrot

" I used to be _____ but then I took an arrow in the knee "

Darthbawls
Darthbawls

People make the memes not the games. 

Granpire
Granpire like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

This whole blog post is redundant...

 

All of your points simply belabour the obvious.

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DarthTall
DarthTall

 @Gelugon_baat  @Granpire Guys, if you look REALLY closely, you'll see that Darthbawls and I are NOT the same person.  Just because I 'liked' another person's response, doesn't mean I replied specifically to either of you.  

Granpire
Granpire

 @DarthTall  :P If you want me to be notified of your comment, you need to keep my name in it. I only saw this because I returned to the comments section.

 

Anyway, no problem. Same to you.

DarthTall
DarthTall

Thanks for the follow up, Granpire.  Take it easy.

Granpire
Granpire like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DarthTall  @Gelugon_baat Your name seems to have been included automatically on the first few posts. Sorry about that, if I'd noticed I'd have removed it.

 

At any rate, your name wasn't included in the last few comments, so you should be good. Unless someone replies to this message. :P

Granpire
Granpire like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Gelugon_baat  @DarthTall The best writing has a clearly defined purpose, which your post lacks (what exactly are you trying to say here?). You need a central idea to return to. A Focus.

 

It also shows us a different perspective, or at least confirms our perspective in a way we've (hopefully) never done. For example, I already know that "GAME MEMES GO WAY BACK", or "IN-GAME JOKES ARE NOT NECESSARILY MEMES" (that's just painfully obvious). If you had brought up some interesting facet of meme culture and expanded on, say, the idea of a meme's cultural prominence from an interesting perspective, that would be much more engrossing.

 

It's not about expectations. It's about the quality of your writing, and whether you're willing to accept constructive criticism. And  seeing as how strong (and blindly idealistic) your opinion is in the comments section, it's strange to see how neutral and boringly straightforward this post was.

Granpire
Granpire

 @Gelugon_baat That's some serious hypocrisy...

 

And I have respected you, as much as possible. There's just no value to be found in anything you've said, which is simply, "That's your opinion, and I don't care." Your opinion is based on the disrespect of others, and that's not something I can respect.

Granpire
Granpire

 @Gelugon_baat Respect is subjective?

 

How about you start with this: it's being willing to accept the value of what others say.

Granpire
Granpire

 @Gelugon_baat 

 

I've told you of respected sources, Gelugon, several times over, but everything's either an opinion or a fact to you. You have no concept of repute or advice. If it doesn't please you, it's only opinion, and it's worthless.

 

You're only dealing in absolutes, and alienating every opinion except your own. You have no concept of respect, and the opinion or advice of others has no value to you, no matter how prestigious the source.

Granpire
Granpire

 @Gelugon_baat You're grasping at straws.

 

Rather than accept the societal norms about good or bad writing, you prefer to muck around with concrete definitions of them. The guidelines are not imposed on you, but you can either accept that you can improve or refuse the advice. You can't argue about what constitutes good writing, especially if you don't even provide a counter-point.

 

I said she was unesteemed, and you seemed to take offense to that somehow. I said that Yamamoto was either insane or joking - I didn't claim you said that, I was only assessing the situation. He does joke, on multiple occasions throughout the interview. That's a fact.

 

That's not conjecture. Conjecture stems from a lack of context (an unsubstantiated claim). Context provides the background for the quote, and the background here is that this was a very laid-back, jovial interviewee.

Granpire
Granpire

 @Gelugon_baat Keep living in your foggy and vague existence. If you won't even accept conventions as a basic guideline, then how do you even trust the (supposedly esteemed) Shaunna Privratsky? Why should she be trusted as a source for writing advice, when she is more than likely drawing from these reference books and what she has been taught? 

 

Regardless, it sounds to me like you just named her at random, and don't even have a quotation to prove her stance on context.

 

Are you really going to write a blog post about cultural in-jokes, then question the definition of a joke? Because if you are, then there really is no point arguing this with you. Either the man is insane, or you're just desperately trying to cling to your idea that nothing is defined. He is joking. There is no question about that, especially when he jokes that he would've made a first-person shooter with a main character named something like Snake.

 

The only real question here is whether he's joking about this specific statement about the writer's sleep level. THAT's something we don't know for sure, so you provide context and allow the reader to draw their own conclusions.

Granpire
Granpire

 @Gelugon_baat There's a reason why they're books of reference, rather than simply opinions. They explain the proper way to write at a very basic level. Ignoring books of reference is simply arrogant. Not absolutely everything is subjective. Focused writing is easier to understand, and restating the obvious is not interesting, no matter how you look at it, or where you read it from.

 

Aside from the fact that she's a single unesteemed writer, can you show me a source where she explicitly says this? Google isn't helping me here...

 

No, you should reconsider your suggestion: do you really think there's a possible chance that Yamamoto is being serious when he says, "Since then, the writer has started talking like the idiotic Badman, so we gave him an extended vacation." or, "When I was defeated by the three heroes, I wanted to throw the PSP against the wall, but I didn't want to pay for a new one, so I didn't do it." ?

 

At the bare minimum, you could say that he jokes a lot throughout the interview. Context is only about providing background to the reader, and you can't leave out that Yamamoto's tone is at least slightly silly. There's no way on earth that calling his statements jokes would be conjecture, unless you have no conception of a joke whatsoever. He's very, very obviously joking in numerous occasions, whether his claim about the game's writer is true or not.

Granpire
Granpire like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Gelugon_baat 

Really? You answer my first point with yet more arrogance? 

 

My points about your writing were valid, but you prefer to respond by attacking the definitions of good writing rather than accepting the constructive criticism I gave you in the beginning.

 

If you really want to keep going down that road, there are various books called style guides that outline what strong and weak writing is. I'd point you to those if you wish to confirm what I've told you. Those are my measurable standards.

 

Humour me. What notable group of writers would actually say that context is pedantic?

 

As for claiming you're not looking to improve your writing, that just shows a lack of motivation. Why did you even write this?

Granpire
Granpire like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Gelugon_baat  @DarthTall Your complacent attitude toward writing is disappointing. And arrogant.

 

That's why any credible writer would provide context. At least you linked to the article, but it's still a bit misleading.

 

I use words that serve their purpose. There's not really a more efficient way to say "blindly idealistic". Surely you can understand what those words mean, and surely you can't think of a better way to express the idea? Here's another florid term for you: Ad Hominem. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

 

I think you'd agree with the idea, given how often you're insulted here. But my implied abuse of vocabulary wouldn't negate the accuracy of my statements.

Granpire
Granpire

 @Gelugon_baat  @DarthTall And to clarify, I did enjoy the specific anecdotal stories you presented, like the Fox news report and the bit about Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman!/WDIDTDTML?.

 

Though, for clarity's sake, you could have mentioned that the interviewee was joking pretty much all throughout the article, so what he said was likely untrue. :P

Legolas_Katarn
Legolas_Katarn

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Fun memories of all the Zero Wing songs and animations people used to make

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Legolas_Katarn
Legolas_Katarn

 @Gelugon_baat Not sure what any of that means but all I do is type my message. I'm not doing anything special with it that should cause that to happen.

Legolas_Katarn
Legolas_Katarn

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 @Gelugon_baat No. Usually all I do is just type or hit reply to someone and then type. I copy pasted that link to my response to you in my blog and that worked.

starduke
starduke

My favorite part of the Zero Wong intro is when the Captain says "WHAT YOU SAY!!!" He's just so devastated by being on his way to destruction.

starduke
starduke

*Zero Wing

Zero Wong would be a cool name, though.

danielwd
danielwd

This was truly insightful and mildly entertaining to read, well done. You actually deserve to be on the front page.

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MooncalfReviews
MooncalfReviews

Not sure why I should care that in game jokes aren't necessarily memes. I'm still going to drop "do you know where I can find sailors?" and "patrolling the ___ makes you wish for a nuclear winter" jokes into every conversation possible. The mere fact that something has become a meme makes it less appealing to me to use as a comeback.

robbiejones
robbiejones

u dun like gaming?

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robbiejones
robbiejones

 @Gelugon_baat  @robbiejones

 so sorry i misread!!  u wrote u have no interest in "gaming culture" my bad. in my deffence i was tired when i read it lol. i enjoy reading ur articles keep it up  :D. btw whats ur fav game?

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