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7Nov 12

When I posted a blog to the soapbox a couple years ago around Kinect's launch questioning it's unique potential for exploiting the privacy of those who buy it, I was met with quite the colorful array of posts and messages from a number of vocal dissenters who were seemingly intent on deflecting away from the issues and gaming-related examples I was specifically focusing on.

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I attempted to make it known to anyone who was willing to listen to what I was actually saying, instead of what they 'thought' I was trying to say and the excessive paranoia I was supposedly displaying, that my two main points of focus were a) the Kinect's intended demographic deserved a more complete perspective in order to make more informed choices regarding it, and b) the technology powering the Kinect had clearly stated motives that went far beyond some dancing games and Kinectimals.

It wasn't about me flying off the handle and telling people to not buy the Kinect, it wasn't about being anti-Microsoft or camera oriented motion gaming, and it certainly wasn't about ignoring the multitude of other non-gaming oriented ways people give away their privacy. It was primarily about my belief that people deserved to know more about the capabilities of the piece of tech they were buying in this particular case, and the longterm intent of those creating it. I felt the mind-numbingly repeated "well, [insert popular technology] already can spy on you so why should I / you care or even talk about it?" argument was lazy, narrow and in no way lessened the importance of the awareness of this topic, especially for interested buyers who weren't very technologically inclined.

Things eventually died down. Time passed, Kinects were sold, issue to the backburner. Unsurprisingly though, as recent headliners like "Microsoft patents tech that watches viewers" on Gamespot would indicate, the issue has managed to make it's rounds once more, and this time around Microsoft has it's eyes on an even bigger prize. In 2010, it was about exploited privacy. In 2012 it is about what tolerated privacy exploitation will be used to achieve, or more appropriately, 'control'. The inevitable progression.

The attention is currently centered on last week's surfacing of a patent Microsoft filed in early 2011 involving the monitoring of viewers through an advanced camera, not for the sake of simple advertising, but enhanced age restrictions and media license enforcement.

via Geekwire:

"The patent application, filed under the heading Content Distribution Regulation by Viewing User, proposes to use cameras and sensors like those in the Xbox 360 Kinect controller to monitor, count and in some cases identify the people in a room watching television, movies and other content. The filing refers to the technology as a consumer detector.

In one scenario, the system would then charge for the television show or movie based on the number of viewers in the room. Or, if the number of viewers exceeds the limits laid out by a particular content license, the system would halt playback unless additional viewing rights were purchased.

The system could also take into account the age of viewers, limiting playback of mature content to adults, for example. This patent application doesnt explain how that would work, but a separate Microsoft patent application last year described a system for using sensors to estimate age based on the proportions of their body."

Yikes. The exploitation of consumer privacy is being sought after to the pave way for something worse. Who could have possibly seen that coming next?

I'm not going to say the technology is in place yet to fully flesh out the ideas in this patent, but the intent obviously is. Some time, persistence, and crafty Apple-quality marketing that manages to get people to buy into the whole "That required facial-scan login is just hands-free convenience! Our thoughtful camera auto pauses your game/movie when you get up for a drink!" rhetoric as 'features' could land gamers into this realm of possibility sooner than they'd think.

It's clearer than ever that the Kinect is, at it's heart, part one of a much grander design. It is a marketing research tool and hardware testing ground for more than just games and ads. After a successful Kinect launch and the 360 now reaching it's twilight, the sought after knowledge of consumer willingness and preference has been gathered, and the additional technological refinement achieved. One step closer towards the patented tool becoming the marketable weapon of control for business partners. And for XBOX users, that much closer from add-on option to built-in requirement.

Regardless of the arguing over what something like the Kinect is, there can no longer be any doubt what Microsoft wants (and is actively working towards) it and it's future bretheren to someday 'be'.

In the end I believe this all ties into the fact that gamers cannot hide behind what is only currently possible forever, at some point we all need to accept accountability for what we encourage through our spending. The very way consumers are allowed to play purchased games and media is attempting to be greatly redefined by those pulling it's strings, with many willingly throwing money at corporate ploys that would allow it to.

62 comments
raven28256
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I never bought a Kinect and never will. Originally it was because it is a gimmicky piece of crap, but now that we've heard about this patent it's because Microsoft is trying to turn it into one of the most invasive forms of DRM ever. I'd like to think that, should Microsoft or anyone else actually implement such a technology, that it would be shut down in a heartbeat by the court for being almost comically invasive of our privacy...But considering how much our government has been bending over backwards to appease big business, I'm not so sure anymore.

 

My worry isn't so much for the current Kinect, but rather for the next generation version that will likely be integrated into the next Xbox.

00J
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they want the same thing when you walk into a store, or get in your car and listen to the radio, in stores they want to scan your eyes and show you ads for things you like, in the car radio commercials would play for things you are interested in.

 

Go back and watch Minority Report... 

ermhm
ermhm

That's scary...

Bilal100
Bilal100

Here's the solution to your 'I'm being watched' problem,if your someone important don't buy a camera that can be connected in any way to the internet and if your a no body like me than you've got nothing to worry about.Why would MS want to spy on someone's private life unless it can benefit them in any way?Plus,who the heck are they gonna pay to spy on an average family through a Goddamn video game console!

hlmcpherson
hlmcpherson

 @Bilal100 Yea, its not the spying.  It's the method for selling me something and then monitoring my use of it.  This situation irks me so much I can't even think of it for long.  Not no, but HECK no!! 

twentymooseman
twentymooseman

 @Bilal100 The bigger problem for me is the idea of them charging on a per user basis. Wouldn't you feel a bit ripped off if they charged you more for watching a movie with friends than on your own? It's kind of ridiculous. And regardless of wether or not it will benefit them, doesn't it make you slightly uncomfortable that there's a camera identifying you and the people with you whenever you use the console? The other thing is that if this camera technology gets implemented, it'll probably be built into the next console. Their probably won't be an option to not buy it. At least that's the way I see it. If it'll regulate how you use content, then Microsoft probably won't make it optional. Really, I just want to enjoy the games I buy and not get hit up for more money while playing them. Is that so much to ask?

Bilal100
Bilal100

 @twentymooseman You are absolutely correct my friend I simply wished to express a solution to the spying problem but like you I would really hate to pay more for watching content with more people or in fact I'd hate to pay more for anything for that matter.Prices for games are already inflated as it is with corporate money milkers finding new ways like DLCs and Extended/Premium editions of games to clean our pockets.Considering the fact that Microsoft even charges us a monthly subscription fee for using XBL I absolutely refuse to pay them even another dime for anything at all!The idea of being monitored by a camera is uncomfortable I admit but I don't think they will make this method a necessity it's always been an extra feature and I hope it stays that way.

Isamu_36
Isamu_36

Some MS online market researcher is going to see lots of asses from several angles in the future.

jinzo9988
jinzo9988

 @Isamu_36 I would just die laughing if mooning MS got you banned from Xbox Live or something.

nait2k4
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If Microsoft is hoping to recreate the movie Sliver out of this, they obviously don't quite understand what their key demographic looks like. Realistically, this is going to be more ChubbyChasers.com than VictoriasSecret.org.

Isamu_36
Isamu_36

 @nait2k4 I remember that movie. Will customers be able to chose between a Sharon Stone Kinect pack or a William Baldwin one?I wonder...By the way, I started listening to Enigma thanks to that film.

hlmcpherson
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I will never submit to this sort of vending.  If they make this a requirement for their products I reckon I'll spend a lot more time in Linux...  I don't own and will never own a camera in my house that is connected to something that an outsider controls completely (xbox, windows 8).

TrueProphecy22
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On a tangental topic, I turned on and updated my 360 for the first time in a few years last week and was absolutely shocked to find advertisements everywhere.

 

If Microsoft takes any of these further, I'm certainly not going to have any interest in buying future systems. 

fluidmike
fluidmike

I'd put up with this if it stopped me coming across screaming 8 year olds when playing 18  rated games.

xeis-net
xeis-net

The only thing Microsoft "wants" is to make money.  If they dont patent every imaginable use for their technology then Apple or another American corporation will, and then sue them.  The US needs to fix its broken patent system, and everyone relax.  Your homes are already "self bugged" adding another leaky device will not make it worse ;)

spoonybard-hahs
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To those of you saying, "Who cares? Unplug the Kinect when you're not using it." What are you on? Please re-read what you wrote (and if you're planning to write write something similar). It's a horrifically ignorant argument that fails to fully grasp the issue at hand because; unplugging it when it's not in use implies it is in use at some point.

Saketume
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 @spoonybard-hahs It's interesting that it's not considered criminal by some.

I wonder what would happen if it turned out professional cameras always secretly sent pictures to the manufacturer. What would photographers think of that.

 

Putting a camera in a game console and say it's needed so the game can spot your movements and then secretly sending films of you to microsoft. Yeah sounds legal to me heh. And sony is no better with their pseye/move

spoonybard-hahs
spoonybard-hahs

 @Saketume That and the fact that Microsoft wants to use it to verify that you are properly licensed to play a game, watch a movie, or listen to some music.

spoonybard-hahs
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I guess Microsoft really just wants to watch me play with myself. If so, I am more than happy to oblige.

 

But first show is free. Then you gotta pay.

nait2k4
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 @spoonybard-hahs Unless you happen to be Scarlett Johansson, I can't see you getting my credit card details any time soon....

MysteryJ0ker
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The days of individuality are no longer here.  People are not individuals.  They are data clusters and this information gathered by the morons that use these devices will further contribute to marketing research and give them further power to influence their choices.

Isamu_36
Isamu_36

 @MysteryJ0ker Wha...! And I thought I was special!Thankfully, marketing does not work on me. The more cool, wonderful and phallic a product is shown to be, the lesser I'll buy it.My boring and nerdy deodorant is perfectly fine for me.

Gen_Warbuff
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Interesting stuff. If it ever does get to the point where you can't unplug or turn off the camera, I will no longer be a gamer.

BenFireFox
BenFireFox

indeed a friend told me that since the first pseye for playstation ^^ he buddy im sure they watch us and idk check out how to sell us new stuff were interested in ^^ 

tiedin
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People here who post that they don't care I think for the most part don't understand the implications yet.  While the Kinect with the 360 can simply be unplugged, what about the 720 or the 1440 or whatever.  Eventually at this rate it will be integrated with the system and impossible to "unplug".  MS is eventually planning to get use the thing to get more out of our wallets, and that goes for everyone.  How many of us want to be treated like criminals because we simply don't want to pay more.  We as the gamers need to wake up and stop funding those who want to use or passion to shear us.  Frankly there are too many us now that want to complain, but also seem to want to be sheared.

-INKling-
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On a bit of a tangent I think that when you stated that 'we need to accept accountability for what we encourage through our spending' I couldn't agree more. Complaining about gravy train map packs and horse armour is all well and good but when you then go out and buy it you are part of the problem. I really want the new BF3 map packs but at 4000 MS Points for Premum Membership I think it is a total rip-off.

 

As for your main point, I personally don't believe that these features will end up being implemented in Kinect. It's the ones that the press haven't found that you have to worry about!

Foolz3h
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I thought comments were back. :( Some more recent, older ones are.

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

yeah if your that parniod and think ms are using kinect to spy on you the just unplug it when you are not using it

Derpalon
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Sadly most of the gaming populace will go uninformed, or even if they are informed, cannot resist the next big Halo release, and will make their purchase of an Xbox 720 Kinect bundle, leaving all their consumer rights at the door for some temporary gratification. We've already let intrusive DRM take over the PC gaming scene. Nearly every game nowadays is starting to get tied to Steam and Origin requiring online authentication even for single player content, and no one seems to care.

alexLmx6
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 @Derpalon I only buy DRM free games, or games that have a valid reason for connecting to a server (Guild Wars 2).  I'm also in the process of starting up a studio, and we'll never sell our games with DRM.  People do care, we're just the minority.  But if you go searching, there's plenty of great gaming to be had without being treated like a criminal. 

saluki933
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kudos on calling it...and all you sheeple saying you don't mind if you're being watched in your home, you're what's wrong with this country...jeez ,stand up for yourself.

nait2k4
nait2k4

 @saluki933 As much as I love to blame the 'sheeple', I have to say its really the people who run the companies that develop these systems that are the problem. It's like kicking a puppy; you don't blame the dog for going near the foot, you blame the prick kicking it.

Coren_Larken
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I can't remember the link; however, I believe i read it on CNET maybe? When the the E series of Samsung televisions came out earlier this year there was apparently no privacy statement for the first few months--they later released one that you had to agree to when you tried to access the camera/motion controls.

 

About a year ago on All Things Considered (I believe), NPR reported that Apple was recording GPS data on iPhones and then uploading it to their servers when you sync'd it to your computer.

 

This stuff is most likely what you said--for marketing data. How people respond to ads, what type of shops and stores you frequent, how many people watch what type of shows tegether---name it. Kinda sad that it takes companies peeking into our personal space to do it.

JayQproductions
JayQproductions

who cares? unplug it when your not using it, problem solved.

JustPlainLucas
JustPlainLucas

It can watch whatever I do.  I don't care.  What I take offense against is the potential to charge my friends and family to watch something I purchased.  That is wrong.  

FAIL_TR0LL
FAIL_TR0LL

I've grown apathetic to the whole situation. If Microsoft wants to watch me play Dance Central in my underwear, they're welcome to it.

VampireLord123
VampireLord123

Very interesting blog, never it came to me they could use it to monitor the amount of people watching/playing on a console. That just feels very wrong, i hope MIcrosoft just does not pull out something like that. You will ony be able to watch a movie or play a game if Microsoft allows it and if you pay for it before hand.

Rheinmetal
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An online camera that points at your face, isn't it obvious that it monitors you? lol Why we even discuss about it? The only discussion that has a meaning is how this information will be used by the service provider, and what we can do to protect our legal rights.

 

It reminds me a couple of years ago a kind of test/project/experiment that was held by Microsoft, "Microsoft Lab", or something like that, I don't remember exactly the name, where users could participate in it by using the Live service for the duration of some hours, so that Microsoft could perform some sort of tests...and after the end of this session, the participants were rewarded with three special Microsoft Achievements. (no comment...) I thought that there is no need to to be particularly suspicious, to think that Microsoft had in mind to use this flow of data in order to draw some conclusions about the electronic environment of those participants and collect a variery of information, even sensitive ones, I can't exclude it. I remember I had a posted a topic about this subject in the Escapist general forum. As it happens in internet fora, when you put a subject to discussion, people most of the time reply to you only because they need to disagree with you at best, or to insult you, mock you, threaten you etc. But besides internet pathology, I detected a big tolerance towards Microsoft, a faith in Microsoft's always good intentions. It surprised me very much to be honest. "Microsoft performed tests to improve the quality of its online service", "You have no proof that they collected sensitive data", "You have no idea how online services work". It was all about: innocence vs my corrupted mind.

I admit that "Microsof Labs" wasn't the same as the outright obvious case of a camera watching you sitting in your hall, but I still have serious doubts that it was routine tests.

HybridExtreme
HybridExtreme

 @Rheinmetal Exactly right. For all we know, Microsoft might still be using the Kinect to collect data. It scans people's livingrooms after all. So think about that, right! It scans the environment around the player, it recognizes faces, it recognizes words. So if I am chatting with friends about the fact that I need a new television, Kinect may be picking up those words or groups of words to create a user profile on me. If they have my billing information, how easy would it be to market advertising to me for new televisions and other electronics etc. I can see it now, playing a game, bitching about how bad my tv sucks, then suddenly my phone rings and a call center somewhere on a different continent than my own calls and someone on the phone is trying to sell me a television! 

alexLmx6
alexLmx6

 @HybridExtreme  @Rheinmetal "It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away."

Rheinmetal
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 @HybridExtreme This will learn us to behave, even when we are alone, or with friends in front of the TV. No swearing, no burping, no sitting with our underwears etc :-)

TheLamaKnows
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I find the same people that crow about privacy are usually the ones quickest to give it away. Much of the industrial world has socialized medicine, giving the gov't their most private medical information- many want it in the US.... but then harp over big brother in their emails or video games.

Here in the US the trend is listing your entire family in stick figure stickers on your car- so every molester knows who's in your house at night just by tooling past your driveway. No hobby engaged in for more than three seconds goes without a t-shirt proudly informing total strangers of how you spend your time. It's sort of a meme that you don't really believe in something unless you have a bumper sticker to prove it.

We live in a YouTube/Twitter/Facebook world where people positively obsess over sharing details of our lives that no one really cares about, with people that we don't even know. But then complain bitterly when someone uses it without permission.

The fact that the single most popular form of entertainment is the extreme intimate look into people's personal lives, addictions, mental illnesses, and simply what they wear, live in, or drive. The fact that 1) there are lines a mile long to get on these shows...and 2) there is a massive audience for them...further indicates that 'privacy' is among the least of concerns for society.

It's not a matter of denying the ability to collect information, that goes beyond even what the paranoids think is possible- but rather that we don't really care. Even those that say they do, in reality often go out of their way to advertise themselves more than the 'powers that be' bother to collect on them. It's just a popular, trendy, and easy target for blogging about.

Rheinmetal
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 @TheLamaKnows Very true what you said, especially the obsession of sharing everything about us with virtual friends in facebook and in other online services. However why can't someone protest when this information is used without permission and against their will by the service providers themselves? Or if the provider is incompetent to secure this information, like SONY PSN that have no clue how to stop hackers from having access to this information?

KingOfOldSkool
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 @TheLamaKnows

 For the most part you're right, I will not deny that. But nothing you mention represents 'everyone'. Most does not equal all. Your "we" does not include me among others. Societal trends do not automatically guarantee individual acceptance. As hard as it may be to be remember at times, there are still those who value and actively protect their privacy despite how limited their numbers may often seem.

 

If there are those who are content to resign themselves to not caring because of how hopeless they see things to be, than so be it. It is within their right to have the equally as easy and trendy 'I don't care / nobody cares about privacy' response to the trendy and often hypocritical privacy activist blogs. Those not caring and those 'acting' like they care go hand in hand, but my hope isn't to change the minds of those firmly entrenched in either of those groups.

 

My hope is simply to reach those who are still receptive, the opportunity of a more informed perspective never hurt anyone. If repeatedly being met with the shrug of the shoulders of those who are alright with plastering their life on everything they interact with for all to see, or the roll of the eyes who are convinced things are to far gone to bother, still manages to only affect even just a handful.. I will continue to believe advocating the message to be worthwhile. I feel there is an emptiness in commenting from either side of an issue that one is doing nothing about apart from complying, another thing I wish to not be a part of despite it's apparent popularity.

TheLamaKnows
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Don't mistake not rushing to panic for a more considered approach, an indicator of apathy.

Non-compliance would be NOT owning every electronic toy on offer, not living life between Twitters and Facebook updates, not advertising  your political views on the bumper of your car, or blogging to random strangers my every personal thought.

Don't mistake complaint for non-compliance. Talk is cheap. Those of us that don't facebook, twitter, or otherwise go out of our way to expose what we hold privately are the ones taking positive action. As I pointed out- upon closer inspection, most people do far more to give away private information than anyone cares to gather on them. Don't complain that Bill Gates put a camera in your living room if you feel the need to give a running commentary of your day thru tweets, for example.

There is no problem with raising the alarm when something ugly rears it's head. But first- be sure there is something there- the 'potential' for something makes for a poor reason to fear it's current incarnation. That is a logical fallacy- known as the Slippery Slope argument.

Rather than rush to conspiracy and slippery slopes, a better approach would be a realistic self-analysis of privacy threats- beginning with what people willingly divulge, like the examples I already provided. Doing this is actual, positive action to safeguard oneself, and will do more to actually eliminate the loss of private info than worrying about the Kinect.

Protect your privacy- but that means much more than saying anything with a lens must be a camera spying on you. It's not the message I'm on about- it's that the 'threats' people are loudest about are the least of the leaks in their information holes.

Bilal100
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 @Saketume  @TheLamaKnows We live in a world that is moving closer and closer towards being dominated by corporate giants,a world where the majority of people will be lower class average citizens who will have each and every move monitored by upper class nobles and elites.Even now this is becoming apparent as the gap between poor and rich is getting wider day by day.The middle class population is fading out and being divided among the rich and poor.

 

We must realize that with each Xbox ,PS3 or PC we buy we are helping a giant organization reach a step closer towards that future and it won't be long before it becomes a reality.

 

Protecting our privacy may seem hopeless to some but all hope is lost if we just give up and accept it.I like this blog because it enlightens me to a topic that I wasn't fully aware of and I thank @KingOfOldSkool for bringing this topic to light.I live in a third world country where our privacy has to a large extent remained intact and I'd like to keep it that way.I use facebook but the information I give out or the topics I discuss on any site on the internet are hardly problematic because I know the types of things that can compromise my privacy and thus also know ways to prevent it from happening.

 

I am a muslim and as some of you may know privacy is an absolute law in our religion that cannot be broken especially for women but you may have seen women on facebook who post their pictures.A reason for that is because most of them are unaware that the people that can see these pictures are not limited to heir friends but since I know this issue I have prevented the women in my family from posting their pictures online.

 

This is all possible due to the fact that I had knowledge of the types of things that can compromise my privacy on the internet or cellphones and that is all thanks to people like @KingOfOldSkool  so I thank you my friend for giving me this useful information and hope you keep up the good work.

Saketume
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 @TheLamaKnows It's harder and harder to avoid giving out information on your habits. It would mean no internet connection for one thing. No phone of any kind. No credit cards (and soon cash will be gone). No traveling. It's obvious we have to accept being constantly monitored or move to some third world country and live in the wilderness.

 

I know new tech brings side effects like these. But it worries me that so many companies and governments are trying so hard to speed up all this development. I do not trust their intentions. It's obvious they don't trust their consumers/citizens.

 

I think a lot of people are unaware of exactly how much they are being monitored. And they're even more ignorant of how easy it is to misuse this information.

 

Already we've seen minor incidents. Some have been fired from their workplaces because of opinions expressed on facebook. Some teacher got fired cause of a picture on a vacation holding a drink.

 

These incidents are minor and facebook is easy to avoid but this is just the beginning. It's not a good thing to treat a population like they're in a giant open walled prison. It will get a counter reaction one way or another. They also are making it extremely easy for a potentially malevolent future regime.

 

Sure it's easy to avoid installing a web cam to an internet connected console. But still some people do it. The acceptance level is high.

Everyone has a cellphone. A cellphone can be used to listen in on anything people say even when you're not calling someone.

 

It also tracks the users movement. This info can be saved and then they'll know exactly where you've been all your life as long as you had your phone with you. Now this would not be so worrying to me if they didn't actively try to add similar tech for just this purpose.

 

A couple of years ago there was a suggestion to add GPS systems to all cars in my country so that the government could tax you for how far you'd travel with it. It didn't happen at that point but they take babysteps towards this end and sooner or later it will be standard.

KingOfOldSkool
KingOfOldSkool

 @TheLamaKnows

 We are in agreement on several points, but I must reiterate that I am not for the irrational fear of anything with a lens or that shares information, or overstating potential in regards to the Kinect.

 

In it's current form, no, I do not feel the Kinect is an unavoidable privacy threat. In fact, I feel the Kinect itself is a very small part of a larger issue. It's the technology that will inevitably stem from continual acceptance that I was placing a spotlight on.

 

Mere potential in and of itself is 'ofcourse' something people should not overreact to, but as wise as it would be to not treat an example like I mentioned as more than it is, so to would it be wise to not treat it as too small to waste much time covering either.

 

Scattered threats with no means of enactment is one thing, but clear, consistent and escalating threats with means that are indeed actively advancing is an entirely different matter. I simply feel the situation with the Kinect from pre-launch to two years post successful launch + additional patents and voiced intent is an example of this. If the matter would have stalled so too would have been the coverage.

 

Also, realize I do acknowledge the vastly more significant privacy holes that people must shore up long before sitting down in front of something like a Kinect, but as this is a gaming site and blog, hopefuly it is recognized that I am simply using a gaming device as an example. One I feel in particular who's unquestioned and uninformed usage may lead to more limited and uncomfortable experiences for various fans of the medium down the road.

 

This blog and discussion would be quite different on a social network site where real names and information are being used, as opposed to a site that typically involves avatars and less identifiable game chatter.

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