Misogynist, check... Homophobic, check.

kayoticdreamz posted...

spikefreaky posted...

Go and ***** yourself having come from a home where domestic violence was the norm I'm glad WWE don't endorse it, stop being so f****** selfish and actually think about what it would be saying is ok.

benevolent sexism look it up. essentially people treat one sex as great while condemning. in this case we tell ourselves it is good that men can't hit women while at the same time saying women and men are not equal and do not deserve equal rights. it is the same as saying you love your wife while saying she damn sure better stay in the kitchen or else.

so in all honesty you are the sexist one. and this mentality often breeds domestic violence because once again women are not allowed to step outside their roles but since the door is opened for them and they are treated "good" no one complains and calls everyone else the sexist which is ironic given they are the sexist ones themselves.

once again look up the term benevolent sexism.

I don't need to look it up, because it is total and utter bull, go and read what I just posted where in my post did I even imply which parent was violent, don't bring psychobabble into an argument when you can't read, I'm in no-way sexist, I've spent 6 years being a stay at home father while my fiance went and finished her education... please don't even start, I never even used the word sexist ANYWHERE so why people seem to keep touting it is beyond me INTERGENDE violence is wrong for quite a few reason, but physcially evolution and inherant sexism(as in woman stay home many do labour...) has caused a natural distinction between the human sex's.

Sorry but you're not even close to anything about me kid, you really have NO idea of anything in the real world for instance, "this mentality often breeds domestic violence because once again women are not allowed to step outside their roles but since the door is opened for them and they are treated" i can only presume by 'this mentality' you mean my saying intergender violence is wrong, that somehow that would lead to me being disheartened by my partners independence... which as you can see I'm not, but it could promote the opposite form of domestic violence, where women hit men, which is also happens but isn't covered by the media, mainly because due to social stigma a man won't admit it, because people would laugh at him, but yeah you know exactly what you're on about.

Nature has drawn certain lines, thats why male atheletes records in track and field out do females and why women and men don't compete in pro sports, it's not sexism it's the facts of nature.

But you know keep dictating that I'm sexist and keep thinking that domestic violence isn't learnt behaviour, my father did beat my mother, you know why because my grandmother beat my grandfather in the 1950s, once over he came home (my dad) to find his house flooded, and my nana and her sister trying to drown my grandfather in the flood water... my father also had anger management problems, but learnt behaviour and him thinking "well i'd never let happen to me" also played a major role, don't try and analyze me kid, you'll come up short.
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boredofyou posted...

*shrugs*

I'm still holding the same position. You should be allowed to do all that TC. Anyone who doesn't want that in their game, don't set it up that way.

As far as the business angle goes.. If the object of the game is to get money then making your game appeal to as many folks as possible should be the obvious choice.

To the poster who complained about a possible like to domestic violence..
I'm sorry you went through that.
Please consider that a person who perpetrates those acts does not do so because they watched it in a game. That person does it because of a lack of personal self control.

Are we really going to have the whole do kids copy what they see debate? if things are enforced as being OK, then they become OK, I know violent people, very violent people, my first name for instance is Albert and I'm named after my fathers first cousin and best friend, now this man when he was 20 he went into a chip shop in manchester with my father who was 16, he was 5'0 and my dad 5'6, 3 men came in and pushed them about gave them a slap the men were all 6 foot plus, so my uncle Albert said "wait here I'll be back in a minute" thinking he was going to get a third man, they waited, he returned with a kitchen knife, stabbed all 3, killed one seriously injured another and paralysed the third.

Thats a true story, but this man is one of my heroes not for that story for the following, before I was born, my Dad gripped my mother in front of him, and My Uncle walked over to my father and said "Norman I'll tell you this once, if you EVER lay a finger on her in front of me I will chop off your F'in hands." so no sorry I find it quite hard to accept that it was a lack of personal self control, my father had that, he let my mother go, he also never seemed to pick a fight with men in alot of situations, infact he'd hold back his anger and then crack my mother when they got home. Do not fool yourself into thinking that it's simply a lack of control, it isn't with everyone, it was to an extent but he had it elsewhere.

I'm through trudging all this up, because people want to be able to "compete" with women vs men, it's not happening get over it, you're arguments are all sub-par at best.
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kayoticdreamz posted...

so you refuse to look up a term because you are certain that it is BS? way to be open minded and way to want to educate yourself. i can see conversation with you is futile. you are utterly stuck in your ways.

and FYI just because you stay at home so your wife can work or go to school does not mean you are not sexist or a wife beater. plenty of those kinds of people have working wives. that literally proves nothing.

in fact your entire argument proves nothing.

also "nature has drawn certain lines"....ok no nature has drawn 0 lines pal.

but unless you want to educate yourself on what benevolent sexism is there is no point in farther talking to you. those that oppose equal rights are sexists. this game is against equal rights under the guise of "women can't compete with men its not fair or men shouldn't hit women". see thats the thing that MAKES YOU SEXIST because you don''t treat the sexes equally. thats the very definition of it. the benevolent part is how you do it why making it sound like you care. the fact your family has a history of domestic violence gives you a higher chance of repeating that act so i can't say im shocked by your attitude.

the argument should be violence is wrong NOT intergender violence. just violence. sort of how hate crimes shouldnt be the crime but the actual crime should be the crime.

I actually already know the meaning thus my calling it total BS. So Debate the points I made on why are women:

on average 3-4 inches shorter than males.
on average smaller framed than males.
on average in need of less Kcals a day than males.
In general better at languages than males.
In general worse at spatial awareness than males.

if nature has drawn no lines... you're acting uneducated, I dispelled your assumptions of me already with the points I made YOU'RE the one being unneccesarily judgemental and pretty much trying to say I made statements I never did, violence IS learnt behaviour I made that pretty clear so yes if you're not educated about it it will repeat.

I also already made the statement that Violence (of any kind) is disgusting so yeah you're way off on that point, my attitude is fine, I'm strongly against violence, so maybe you should actually learn to debate a point and not just pull silly assumptions out of thin air?
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And to add Benevolant Sexism is a Psychological THEORY, thus my dispelling it, infact if i remember correctly it's part of a bigger theory called ambivolant sexism...

and it doesn't even try to tackle the physical/natural and evolutionary differences between the sexes which is my whole argument and THEREFORE you're point is nullified completly.
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