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After The Fact: Reviews Revisited

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Posted: Nov 6, 2008 6:20 pm GMT
In April, a free update known as "The Dope Bag" added four new maps titled Clean Cut, Hooker's Trail, Flying High, and Hasta La Vista for use in the Fragile Alliance multiplayer mode. Five new achievements worth a total of 250 Gamerscore points were also added on the Xbox 360.  

125 Comments

  • JK731

    Posted Nov 1, 2009 10:17 am GMT

    its kind of a good thing this happened sometimes, because the guys at giantbomb work really well together, and have a lot more freedom than anyone does here.

  • Berkie420

    Posted Oct 19, 2009 10:33 pm GMT

    Watch out guys, I got banned from this site just for mentioning the site Jeff, Brad and Ryan D. started. For me, the heart and soul of this site just ain't the same since Gerstmanngate....

  • aramoe

    Posted Sep 29, 2009 4:10 pm GMT

    gamespot sucks at reviewing now..I'm going to giantbomb

  • geoff-uk123

    Posted Sep 17, 2009 12:45 pm GMT

    @barber_force: Yeah I agree with that. Kevin is probably the best game reviewer on Gamespot right now.

  • Frostmore33

    Posted Sep 14, 2009 2:54 am GMT

    Why did he lose his job over this anyway???
    I thought it was a pretty solid review
    I do like giant bomb, its an awsome site
    I like K&L. Its a guilty pleasure

  • Toriko42

    Posted Aug 24, 2009 7:43 pm GMT

    People still on about this, Giant Bomb is the place to go if you want Jeff alright. The past sadly won't correct itself.

  • wolwering

    Posted Aug 24, 2009 4:00 pm GMT

    Hmm, if Geff was fired because of this review, than that shouldn't have been done. Even so, he really portrayed this game as a bad one and I really don't think that's the case. Other than it's length and a bit inaccurate aiming, it's a decent game. It has good voice acting, engaging story, it's challenging and it feels rewarding. I was angry because I thought Jeff was fired for making this review and I thought it was fair for the game to be bashed but I got it recently and played it through and I realized a lot of effort was put into it. In short I think this game is quite underrated here and people should stop judging it harshly because they think Jeff was fired because of reviewing it.
    PS
    Even so, firing him was a bad idea, if they did it because he gave Kane and Lynch a low score.

  • RuffRyder101

    Posted Aug 24, 2009 12:07 am GMT

    Jeff was just telling the truth and that what he's supposed to do because he is a critic. He shouldnt have been fired,

  • JimmeCata

    Posted Aug 23, 2009 10:13 pm GMT

    To think... one simple review would start one of the greatest controversies in videogame history- Gertsmanngate. The whole scandal totally redifined our ideas about the reliability and trustworthyness of industry reviewers, and the industry reeled in it's wake.

  • Dark_Muse

    Posted Aug 23, 2009 9:53 pm GMT

    game does look like crap...
    Gladly for Gamespot, you lost all your best reviewers.
    CHEERS?
    It will take some time to get with the new reviewers like we did with jeff, shoemaker and ocampo... even the legendary Greg. But please, don't give high scores for games because their companies pay you :\ It's just not ethical...
    Btw, I don't have xbox, just wanted to see what the fuss :p

  • Fandango_Letho

    Posted Aug 21, 2009 8:01 pm GMT

    @epdug , jeff works for giantbomb now. Check it out, their site is great.

  • epdug

    Posted Aug 18, 2009 4:57 pm GMT

    Well I picked the game up and have been playing it, Im a good bit into it, I agree with the below comment, there are some parts of Jeffs review I agree with, other parts I don't, but to fire him over it? That was really really harsh, the whole point of his role was to give his honest and experienced opinion, Im suprised he hasn't sued Gamespot! And why is his review still up after him being fired??

  • xtremeflem2day

    Posted Aug 17, 2009 6:55 pm GMT

    The reason why jeff was fired wasn't exactly because gamespot disagreed with his review, but because gamespot was paid highly to advertise it when it came out, as far as giving gamespot a kane and lynch theme, then jeff comes along and gives it a bad score, thats why he was fired. Personally i think jeff is a great reviewer, and is one of the most respectable journalists out there, and i disagree with a lot of what he had to say in this review, and agree with some of it too, but firing him was a big mistake for gamespot.

  • epdug

    Posted Aug 17, 2009 6:21 pm GMT

    Wow he really laid into this game didn't he?! I'll have to pick it up and see for myself, I dont't know bout this whole story that he got fired over it, sounds messed up, but I'll be back, gonna check this out for myself.......

  • steven_bergen

    Posted Aug 16, 2009 4:52 pm GMT

    im glad they fired jeff, if they never fired we wouldnt have Giantbomb right now.

  • SkidRow18

    Posted Aug 15, 2009 2:16 am GMT

    at least he is honest about his review

  • Seeker108 posted Aug 14, 2009 6:57 pm GMT (does not meet display criteria. sign in to show)

    Seeker108

    Posted Aug 14, 2009 6:57 pm GMT (hide)

    this game is not that bad yes too much cursing but still alot of fun. terrible review

  • destroyandy

    Posted Aug 9, 2009 5:58 pm GMT

    this is a good game! but its just a review and u cant argue with what other people have to say about it.

  • DooM_MerchanT

    Posted Aug 3, 2009 10:27 am GMT

    Jeff Gerstmann is a great critic. He is a critic, he's allowed to not like a game and I totally agree with his review. I can't say if this is why so many left or why he was fired. If it was, it's a Massive shame.

  • triptiger94

    Posted Jul 26, 2009 11:34 pm GMT

    ha they end up saying the f word at the end ha

  • makincopies

    Posted Jul 19, 2009 5:47 pm GMT

    did he really get fired for this review because edios bribed gamespot?

  • richmond5

    Posted Jul 17, 2009 6:59 pm GMT

    This review is what probably marked the beginning of the end of the "tradition" in Gamespot. Jeff G., Ryan, Greg K., and Brad Shoemaker told GameSpot to F@#% Off after this. These reviewers were what made me want to watch Gamespot and now they are all gone. What we are left with on Gamespot are a bunch of Limey reviewers who are tools of this bull@&$T new order in Gamespot.

  • Ikouze

    Posted Jul 14, 2009 11:35 am GMT

    That was his opinion that the game sucks. GS shouldn't have fired him like that. I guess GS doesn't care about people's opinions. But it's true the game was bad. I played it for an hour and I really hated it. I never picked it up again.

  • nightcall14

    Posted Jul 14, 2009 8:33 am GMT

    Jeff shouldn't have been fired over this review. All reviews are opinions of a game and he just gave his.

  • xtremeflem2day

    Posted Jul 10, 2009 4:15 pm GMT

    I only played the demo for kayne and lynch and jeff is right, there is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much F-bombs being dropped, but i like the cover mechanics, and the guns arent too hard or too easy to aim. Regardless of whether or not the characters are understandable, jeff didn't see what was understandable, thats just one review, he shouldn't be fired for it.

  • raev92

    Posted Jul 7, 2009 10:02 pm GMT

    this review always make me laugh!

    R.I.P. Jeff

  • Bringerofpwnage

    Posted Jul 7, 2009 7:40 pm GMT

    Thanks Jeff for staying true to your heart and love of gaming.

  • Azuki

    Posted Jul 4, 2009 4:23 am GMT

    Ah so this is the infamous review that got poor jeff fired. Luckily he's kicking ass on GiantBomb.com now (the greatest gaming site in existence imo) so eh.

    Still amazes me that he got fired for simply telling it like it is, the game was as awful as he said it was and no one should have bought it.

  • travisstaggs

    Posted Jun 29, 2009 7:46 pm GMT

    Poor Jeff he was one of my favorites.

  • Np_Pro

    Posted Jun 28, 2009 6:15 pm GMT

    @ bodygaurd1
    no one should be fired for a review. it was his opinion and gamespot hired him to give it. just because you disagree with him doesn't mean that he had a grudge. i happened to hate the new prince of persia; that doesn't mean Kevin VanOrd was being paid by UbiSoft to say good things about it.

  • luniac

    Posted Jun 25, 2009 5:26 am GMT

    lol just wanted to check out the infamous video.

  • Lebowski-Dude

    Posted Jun 22, 2009 8:22 pm GMT

    It's ridiculous and unwarranted to fire him for this; though it did seem like he said many negative things about the game, that's how he felt. He was one of the best reviewers.

  • vidiexas

    Posted Jun 22, 2009 9:52 am GMT

    I can't believe it i miss you Jeff all players, gamers, reviewers, all who knows you will remember you as a great guy with great reviews.

  • southsideTaft

    Posted Jun 21, 2009 7:15 am GMT

    this game was good better then wat they rated it the story was very good if you played it and the shooting was bad but you could deal with it and the multiplayer was good 2

  • vegan_cannibal

    Posted Jun 20, 2009 10:31 pm GMT

    Ok guys, one and a half years later I do feel that the audio quality is pretty sub par and its a little too harsh to the game (though it may deserve it), so maybe GS ***might*** have a point.

    But seriously, you guys shouting about how cool giantbomb is need to stay there. Why come here and say something like "Giantbomb is the place to be??" Its not where you are right now, is it? Also, get a REAL purpose in your life.

    No hate to Jeff though, he's cool, and his new site is cool too, except the name which I think he named after one of his farts.

  • blaze11987 posted Jun 18, 2009 3:41 pm GMT (does not meet display criteria. sign in to show)

    blaze11987

    Posted Jun 18, 2009 3:41 pm GMT (hide)

    you know what else is ugly? YOU JEFF GERSTMANN!

  • bodygaurd1 posted Jun 13, 2009 8:14 pm GMT (does not meet display criteria. sign in to show)

    bodygaurd1

    Posted Jun 13, 2009 8:14 pm GMT (hide)

    Personally, I'm glad he got fired. This guy seriously had some type of grudge against this game. I played it and I had fun with it. The graphics were okay, the story was great! And the characters, unlike what Jeff said, are understandable and likable. Jeff really deserved to be fired for this. They should have a different/new review so that people will understand how this game actually is.

  • nbhatred posted Jun 8, 2009 12:18 pm GMT (does not meet display criteria. sign in to show)

    nbhatred

    Posted Jun 8, 2009 12:18 pm GMT (hide)

    Gamespot wasnt really responsible for his firing. It was pressure from the developer and CNET that caused Jeff to be fired.

  • Bahaa3000

    Posted May 30, 2009 11:44 am GMT

    I can't believe they fired this guy for this , he's only being honest about his gaming experience , gamespot had no right to do this to him ! giantbomb.com is an amazing website , im glad he made it

  • lostnva5 posted May 27, 2009 11:01 pm GMT (does not meet display criteria. sign in to show)

    lostnva5

    Posted May 27, 2009 11:01 pm GMT (hide)

    Although the firing is shady, the review he gave was not a 6.0.....Fair???!! He had NOTHING good to say about the game, according to the review this game deserved atleast a 4.0 or 5.

  • raiding_kvatch

    Posted May 23, 2009 5:54 pm GMT

    I don't really care why he got fired. GiantBomb is a cool site. I don't understand why people need to take sides, I use a bunch of sites including Gamespot and GiantBomb

  • FrankenLife

    Posted May 4, 2009 8:43 pm GMT

    With this review so ended an era. GS will never be worth coming to again. Giantbomb is the way to go. Check it out if you haven't yet.

  • MadeInFinland

    Posted May 3, 2009 9:16 pm GMT

    miss you Jeff. *salutes*

  • hahatchimmmmm

    Posted May 3, 2009 3:21 pm GMT

    love this review, dont know if im going to come to gamespot again without jeff

  • Comedyco

    Posted May 2, 2009 5:32 pm GMT

    giantbomb all the way. This will be my last time to visit this crap website. No stupid comments rating at gb either and soooo much better aesthetically

  • Kenshin100

    Posted Apr 26, 2009 11:25 pm GMT

    I guess its about making money over honesty >_> way to go guys >_>

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